Re: [Wikimedia-l] Block evasion might be a federal offense

2013-08-21 Thread Fred Bauder
> On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 4:09 AM, Peter Gervai wrote: >> On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 9:37 AM, Martijn Hoekstra >> wrote: >>> On Aug 21, 2013 8:56 AM, "Peter Gervai" wrote: >> >>> The account and/or underlying IP is >>> blocked. That is the technical impediment. The action that is now a >>> federal

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Block evasion might be a federal offense

2013-08-21 Thread Nathan
On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 4:09 AM, Peter Gervai wrote: > On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 9:37 AM, Martijn Hoekstra > wrote: >> On Aug 21, 2013 8:56 AM, "Peter Gervai" wrote: > >> The account and/or underlying IP is >> blocked. That is the technical impediment. The action that is now a federal >> offense,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Block evasion might be a federal offense

2013-08-21 Thread Martijn Hoekstra
On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 10:09 AM, Peter Gervai wrote: > On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 9:37 AM, Martijn Hoekstra > wrote: > > On Aug 21, 2013 8:56 AM, "Peter Gervai" wrote: > > > The account and/or underlying IP is > > blocked. That is the technical impediment. The action that is now a > federal > > o

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Block evasion might be a federal offense

2013-08-21 Thread Peter Gervai
On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 9:37 AM, Martijn Hoekstra wrote: > On Aug 21, 2013 8:56 AM, "Peter Gervai" wrote: > The account and/or underlying IP is > blocked. That is the technical impediment. The action that is now a federal > offense, it seems, is to defy the warning, by circumventing the block by

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Block evasion might be a federal offense

2013-08-21 Thread Martijn Hoekstra
On Aug 21, 2013 8:56 AM, "Peter Gervai" wrote: > > I am possibly failing to see the point of this part of the discussion. > > On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 7:14 AM, FT2 wrote: > > >- *If the IP is "sufficiently clearly connected" to the individual > >behind the Alice account*, > > It is not an

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Block evasion might be a federal offense

2013-08-20 Thread Peter Gervai
I am possibly failing to see the point of this part of the discussion. On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 7:14 AM, FT2 wrote: >- *If the IP is "sufficiently clearly connected" to the individual >behind the Alice account*, It is not and possibly almost never will. However I fail to see how people

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Block evasion might be a federal offense

2013-08-20 Thread FT2
One comment on the original link is worth some eyeballs: *"If IP address blocking is a legally binding way of banning a user, does that establish that an IP address must be considered 'personally identifying information' for privacy policies and related purposes?"* The logic seems solid (although

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Block evasion might be a federal offense

2013-08-20 Thread Fred Bauder
We could hire expert staff to deal with serious socking by dangerous or highly disruptive users. Their wages would be the damage. Fred > An additional issue, if we're still talking CFAA's private right of > action, > is where would the minimum damage requirements come from? > > -Dan > > Dan Rosen

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Block evasion might be a federal offense

2013-08-20 Thread Dan Rosenthal
An additional issue, if we're still talking CFAA's private right of action, is where would the minimum damage requirements come from? -Dan Dan Rosenthal On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 8:22 PM, Nathan wrote: > On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 5:59 PM, Federico Leva (Nemo) > wrote: > > Discussed several times

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Block evasion might be a federal offense

2013-08-20 Thread Nathan
On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 5:59 PM, Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote: > Discussed several times with no clear outcome. > http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimedia-l/2013-January/123678.html > >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Block evasion might be a federal offense

2013-08-20 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Discussed several times with no clear outcome. http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimedia-l/2013-January/123678.html

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Block evasion might be a federal offense

2013-08-20 Thread Nathan
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 2:55 PM, Fred Bauder wrote: >> http://feedly.com/k/14WeLcY >> >> I wish I was grossly misrepresenting the situation here. If I am, please >> do >> set me straight. > > You're not wrong, but getting the attention of a federal prosecutor would > be easier for jaywalking in a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Block evasion might be a federal offense

2013-08-19 Thread Fred Bauder
> http://feedly.com/k/14WeLcY > > I wish I was grossly misrepresenting the situation here. If I am, please > do > set me straight. You're not wrong, but getting the attention of a federal prosecutor would be easier for jaywalking in a National Park. It applies only to extreme situations. Fred _

[Wikimedia-l] Block evasion might be a federal offense

2013-08-19 Thread Martijn Hoekstra
http://feedly.com/k/14WeLcY I wish I was grossly misrepresenting the situation here. If I am, please do set me straight. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l,