Re: [Wikimedia-l] Please rename this list to shitfight-l, and give us a list where civil discussion about wikimedia can take place

2014-06-16 Thread Craig Franklin
I must agree with the frustration over the quality of discussion on this mailing list lately, but I did want to make clear my appreciation to the list admins, who have decided to avoid playing semantic word games over what is and is not appropriate, and started moderating people who want to use

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Please rename this list to shitfight-l, and give us a list where civil discussion about wikimedia can take place

2014-06-16 Thread Tim Starling
On 16/06/14 13:03, billinghurst wrote: I am looking for a productive mailing list that discusses matters of importance to the Wikimedia community. That the people on such a list can have these discussions politely, respectfully, and with concern for others in that the words that say, and

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Please rename this list to shitfight-l, and give us a list where civil discussion about wikimedia can take place

2014-06-16 Thread David Gerard
On 16 June 2014 10:41, Tim Starling tstarl...@wikimedia.org wrote: The way to have a better mailing list is to not use a mailing list. NNTP with a web frontend would be better in pretty much every way. There are no good web frontends for NNTP. (GMane and Google Groups both manage worst of

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Please rename this list to shitfight-l, and give us a list where civil discussion about wikimedia can take place

2014-06-16 Thread David Gerard
On 16 June 2014 10:43, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: On 16 June 2014 10:41, Tim Starling tstarl...@wikimedia.org wrote: The way to have a better mailing list is to not use a mailing list. NNTP with a web frontend would be better in pretty much every way. There are no good web

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Please rename this list to shitfight-l, and give us a list where civil discussion about wikimedia can take place

2014-06-16 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Thinking twice is nice and that's what mailman moderation is about. Just for this month we could half the soft quota (https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l ) and calculate it over two months. According to http://www.infodisiac.com/Wikipedia/ScanMail/Wikimedia-l.html this would mean

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Please rename this list to shitfight-l, and give us a list where civil discussion about wikimedia can take place

2014-06-16 Thread pi zero
I am looking for a productive mailing list that discusses matters of importance to the Wikimedia community. That the people on such a list can have these discussions politely, respectfully, and with concern for others in that the words that say, and attitudes taken. I want to see

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Please rename this list to shitfight-l, and give us a list where civil discussion about wikimedia can take place

2014-06-16 Thread Jane Darnell
Nemo, thanks for that - it really made me laugh. Jane On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 12:23 PM, Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.com wrote: Thinking twice is nice and that's what mailman moderation is about. Just for this month we could half the soft quota (https://meta.wikimedia.org/

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Please rename this list to shitfight-l, and give us a list where civil discussion about wikimedia can take place

2014-06-16 Thread David Gerard
Everyone move to wikien-l! It's pretty much disused now. Go on, give me work to do. On 16 June 2014 11:23, Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.com wrote: Thinking twice is nice and that's what mailman moderation is about. Just for this month we could half the soft quota

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Please rename this list to shitfight-l, and give us a list where civil discussion about wikimedia can take place

2014-06-16 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Sorry but en,wp is not for me and many others.. No reasons except that it is not what I/we am/are involved in. We need something that is more inclusive. Thanks, GerardM On 16 June 2014 13:44, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: Everyone move to wikien-l! It's pretty much disused