[Wikimedia-l] Re: Luis Bitencourt-Emilio Joins Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees

2022-12-12 Thread eheidel
To add to the conversation, I'm wondering several things. 1. Was there actually an outreach strategy to recruit for this type of technologist profile? Was it communicated to the movement? We could have helped. 2. Why the decision on someone whose only relevant background as technologist is on

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Luis Bitencourt-Emilio Joins Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees

2022-12-11 Thread The Cunctator
He tweeted in praise of BAYC but has recently taken his tweets private without explanation. On Sun, Dec 11, 2022, 10:40 AM effe iets anders wrote: > I'm probably missing some context. I've seen earlier references to this > NFT in light of his appointment. What I somehow missed (sorry if I > over

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Luis Bitencourt-Emilio Joins Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees

2022-12-11 Thread effe iets anders
I'm probably missing some context. I've seen earlier references to this NFT in light of his appointment. What I somehow missed (sorry if I overlooked it) is a clear indication how he would have supported this NFT, and especially whether he supported problematic aspects of it specifically. Also: has

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Luis Bitencourt-Emilio Joins Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees

2022-12-10 Thread The Cunctator
I would like to submit that I personally found SJ's characterizations of other contributors' legitimate concerns and critiques as "light hazing" to be offensively dismissive, but if SJ helps facilitate an honest and respectful attempt by Luis and the board to answer those concerns I will happily ea

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Luis Bitencourt-Emilio Joins Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees

2022-12-10 Thread The Cunctator
I am sincerely interested in your views on the open source movement, the for-profit exploitation of Wikinedia, the role of the Foundation in protecting the intellectual property interests of Wikimedia contributors, and the role of influential technologists in promoting financially and environmental

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Luis Bitencourt-Emilio Joins Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees

2022-12-10 Thread Lane Chance
Just to remind you, Luis Bitencourt-Emilio is one of the Wikimedia Foundation's unelected trustees. He publicly supported the infamous "monkey" NFTs, widely thought to mirror racist tropes,* and used one as his social media avatar when first appointed to the board. In the last 24 hours a class act

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Luis Bitencourt-Emilio Joins Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees

2022-02-12 Thread Joe Roe
Dear all, Apologies for resurrecting this old thread. The discussion about cryptocurrency is interesting, but it is not what caught my eye on (belatedly) reading this announcement. I am more concerned about Bitencourt-Emilio's previous job as an executive at Rappi. Rappi is charitably—some mig

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Luis Bitencourt-Emilio Joins Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees

2022-01-31 Thread Luis Bitencourt-Emilio
hi molly; certainly. while I don’t agree with Nicolas’ tweet verbatim - particularly the “need better critics” bit - what resonated with me personally was being unable to attribute human values, good vs. evil, to an underlying technology platform. note; I interpreted good/bad as value judgment

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Luis Bitencourt-Emilio Joins Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees

2022-01-30 Thread GorillaWarfare
Hi Luis, I happened to notice you retweet a tweet today that said "A tech is neutral. It can’t be good or bad per se."[1] I know this perspective differs from my own, and I think a fair number of those in the Wikimedia movement—would you be willing to expound on your thoughts there? – Molly White

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Luis Bitencourt-Emilio Joins Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees

2022-01-18 Thread Antoine Musso
On 14/01/2022 02:01, Luis Bitencourt-Emilio wrote: I was born and grew up in Brazil, under vastly different circumstances than today. There was a critical moment in my life when my father placed me, at 8 years old, in a BASIC programming course which I would practice on our x286 hidden away i

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Luis Bitencourt-Emilio Joins Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees

2022-01-14 Thread Strainu
Hello, În vin., 14 ian. 2022 la 03:40, Luis Bitencourt-Emilio a scris: > > apologies to all for my late response. Calling a next-day response "late" should gain you a goodwill or two with some of us. :) Welcome and good luck in helping our CTOs! > > PS: I see a separate conversation has emerged

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Luis Bitencourt-Emilio Joins Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees

2022-01-14 Thread Kunal Mehta
On 1/13/22 08:50, Steven Walling wrote: If we are having trouble retaining CTOs and CPOs, the first people for the Board and CEO to ask about why are *not* outside tech execs from venture-backed companies. It’s the tech employees of the Foundation (those past leaders in those roles and their e

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Luis Bitencourt-Emilio Joins Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees

2022-01-13 Thread Luis Bitencourt-Emilio
Hello everybody, Thank you Nataliia et al. for the warm welcome (and light hazing) and apologies to all for my late response. Years ago, a colleague from the Wikimedia Foundation staff reached out to talk about product & technology at the organization. I still remember how eye-opening that ini

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Luis Bitencourt-Emilio Joins Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees

2022-01-13 Thread Benjamin Lees
On Thu, Jan 13, 2022 at 4:31 PM Nathan wrote: > > No, it isn't a messaging failure. There's no failure at all - the WMF, I'm > sure, already recognizes there are pros and cons to a movement where every > individual participant feels a sense of ownership. They work around that, > sometimes they do

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Luis Bitencourt-Emilio Joins Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees

2022-01-13 Thread Nathan
On Thu, Jan 13, 2022 at 3:44 PM Guettarda wrote: > > On Thu, Jan 13, 2022 at 3:02 PM Yair Rand wrote: > >> I'm going to strongly disagree with this. >> >> People are allowed to have outside interests. Being incidentally >> interested in blockchain tech is not a disqualifying attribute. Having >>

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Luis Bitencourt-Emilio Joins Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees

2022-01-13 Thread Guettarda
On Thu, Jan 13, 2022 at 3:02 PM Yair Rand wrote: > I'm going to strongly disagree with this. > > People are allowed to have outside interests. Being incidentally > interested in blockchain tech is not a disqualifying attribute. Having > worked in large technology companies is not a disqualifying

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Luis Bitencourt-Emilio Joins Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees

2022-01-13 Thread Vi to
I'd generally second this, but honestly a big "it depends" is due. Being an HR manager from Kellog's would be a disqualifying attribute, same for a personal interest in building and using rolling coals. The *Bored Ape Yacht Club *is something more than an incidental interest, but I think the board

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Luis Bitencourt-Emilio Joins Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees

2022-01-13 Thread Samuel Klein
Welcome, Luis :) A light hazing is traditional. ✨ I am delighted to see someone w/ not just a product and technical background, but specific experience maintaining a collaborative read-write platform w/ global audience. Of course the board is responsible for higher-level governance. But increa

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Luis Bitencourt-Emilio Joins Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees

2022-01-13 Thread Isaac Olatunde
I agree with Yair, here. I understand this announcement was made at the time a RfC regarding WMF accepting cryptocurrency donations is ongoing.[1] I think having someone with a sound knowledge of this area on the board would be a net positive in implementing the result of that RfC. I see the app

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Luis Bitencourt-Emilio Joins Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees

2022-01-13 Thread Yair Rand
I'm going to strongly disagree with this. People are allowed to have outside interests. Being incidentally interested in blockchain tech is not a disqualifying attribute. Having worked in large technology companies is not a disqualifying attribute. Neither of these things should even be counted ne

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Luis Bitencourt-Emilio Joins Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees

2022-01-13 Thread Lane Chance
Dariusz, Chair of the BGC: "Cryptocurrency and blockchains were not a factor here – the Governance Committee, and then the Board, were considering other things..." This is so wrong it's painful to read. The fundamental job of the Governance Committee is to ensure that appointed trustees do not com

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Luis Bitencourt-Emilio Joins Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees

2022-01-13 Thread Inductiveload
On Thu, 13 Jan 2022 at 13:41, Dariusz Jemielniak wrote: > > One of the problems we identified was that the Wikimedia Foundation CTOs > (Chief Technology Officer) are usually not staying for a long period of time Does anyone know why this is? This sounds like a pretty critical buried lead if the

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Luis Bitencourt-Emilio Joins Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees

2022-01-13 Thread Frank Schulenburg
Nataliia, Thanks so much for your announcement and welcome to Luis! Given that we’re talking about a board role that requires a range of governance / oversight responsibilities, could you please tell us more about Luis’ non-profit board and governance experience? Best, Frank > Am 1/12/22 um

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Luis Bitencourt-Emilio Joins Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees

2022-01-13 Thread Steven Walling
On Thu, Jan 13, 2022 at 7:40 AM Guettarda wrote: > Crypto + NFTs + {tech startup + disrupt + housing market} sounds like > *just* the kind of person WMF needs on its board! > > Luis Bitencourt-Emilio might be a great person, and just who we need on > the Board right now, but the optics seem terri

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Luis Bitencourt-Emilio Joins Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees

2022-01-13 Thread Dariusz Jemielniak
have you had a chance to check the link I sent? cheers, dj On Thu, Jan 13, 2022 at 4:34 PM David Gerard wrote: > On Thu, 13 Jan 2022 at 13:41, Dariusz Jemielniak > wrote: > > > even though I appreciate blockchain as a technology, > > This is a common buzzword phrase. What *in particular* do y

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Luis Bitencourt-Emilio Joins Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees

2022-01-13 Thread Chris Keating
On Thu, Jan 13, 2022 at 3:41 PM Guettarda wrote: > Crypto + NFTs + {tech startup + disrupt + housing market} sounds like > *just* the kind of person WMF needs on its board! > > Luis Bitencourt-Emilio might be a great person, and just who we need on > the Board right now, but the optics seem terri

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Luis Bitencourt-Emilio Joins Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees

2022-01-13 Thread Guettarda
Crypto + NFTs + {tech startup + disrupt + housing market} sounds like *just* the kind of person WMF needs on its board! Luis Bitencourt-Emilio might be a great person, and just who we need on the Board right now, but the optics seem terrible. Maybe I've been spending too much time in the wrong par

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Luis Bitencourt-Emilio Joins Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees

2022-01-13 Thread David Gerard
On Thu, 13 Jan 2022 at 13:41, Dariusz Jemielniak wrote: > even though I appreciate blockchain as a technology, This is a common buzzword phrase. What *in particular* do you appreciate about them, that someone who knows what they are and how they work but isn't a fan would find a credible claim?

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Luis Bitencourt-Emilio Joins Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees

2022-01-13 Thread GorillaWarfare
Thank you for the further details, Dariusz. What is his experience with free software or open knowledge communities such as ours? I would also love to hear from him directly to know more about whether he feels cryptocurrencies, NFTs, and such technologies have a place in the Wikimedia mission. Do

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Luis Bitencourt-Emilio Joins Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees

2022-01-13 Thread Dariusz Jemielniak
Dear Dan, Thank you for the feedback! The search for a trustee with an expertise in product and technology began a few months ago. One of the problems we identified was that the Wikimedia Foundation CTOs (Chief Technology Officer) are usually not staying for a long period of time, and then there

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Luis Bitencourt-Emilio Joins Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees

2022-01-13 Thread Dan Garry (Deskana)
Thanks for the update, Nataliia. Knowledge and expertise in product and technology is a skill set that has been lacking on the Board, and it's great to see the Board addressing this by co-opting product and technology leaders. Luis's experience, such as his time at reddit, will likely be very appli

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Luis Bitencourt-Emilio Joins Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees

2022-01-12 Thread Vi to
OMG. I've just committed a rightclickcide. Vito Il giorno gio 13 gen 2022 alle ore 06:07 Brion Vibber ha scritto: > To make sure, is this the same guy? > > https://twitter.com/luisatlive > > -- brion > > On Wed, Jan 12, 2022, 9:20 AM Nataliia Tymkiv > wrote: > >> Dear All, >> >> Please join me

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Luis Bitencourt-Emilio Joins Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees

2022-01-12 Thread Brion Vibber
To make sure, is this the same guy? https://twitter.com/luisatlive -- brion On Wed, Jan 12, 2022, 9:20 AM Nataliia Tymkiv wrote: > Dear All, > > Please join me in welcoming Luis Bitencourt-Emilio to the Wikimedia > Foundation Board of Trustees. Luis was unanimously appointed to a 3-year > term