Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Conference 2015

2014-09-12 Thread Ed Saperia
It would, however, significantly increase the work for the Wikimania organisers. They didn't sign up to programme and organise an affiliate org conference, so they shouldn't have to if they don't want to. Guestlists cause all sorts of politics, but are a necessary evil when dealing with

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Conference 2015

2014-09-12 Thread Pine W
One additional nice benefit from having the affiliates conference be a pre-Wikimania conference is that those who don't want to or are excluded from the affiliate portions of the event can attend other portions like the education pre-conference or the pre-conference hackathon. Can we please move

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Conference 2015

2014-09-12 Thread Ilario Valdelli
Any time I have seen the proposal of a pre-conference in Wikimania, any time I have seen nothing happening. There are two hackathons per year, one as Wikimania pre-conference and a second one as separate event. In my opinion proposing a preconference will not solve the problem but will add a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Conference 2015

2014-09-12 Thread Chris Keating
I was always a little surprised by the name Wikimedia Conference. After all, that name would most logically belong to the big, open, week-long event that draws over a thousand people together to talk about every aspect of the movement.* However, that event is already called Wikimania, which also

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Conference 2015

2014-09-12 Thread Ilario Valdelli
Wikimedia is a community of communities. So basically Wikimania can be the unique Wikimedia Conference. But we can come back to the first question. Would we really have a second Wikimania in the first quarter of any year because the name Wikimedia Conference should exclude no one? Would we

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Conference 2015

2014-09-12 Thread Pine W
Regional conferences are easier to attend for the locals, but... * There would be less mixing of people and thematic organizations from different regions * WMF's travel costs would skyrocket if it tried to send the same number of people to several regional events, and WMF would also likely have

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Conference 2015

2014-09-12 Thread Philippe Beaudette
On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 10:52 PM, Lodewijk lodew...@effeietsanders.org wrote: I suggest we use 'the Oompa Loompa discussion meeting' and be done with it. Ah, but what COLOR are the oompa loompas? *Philippe Beaudette * \\ Director, Community Advocacy \\ Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. T:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Conference 2015

2014-09-12 Thread Ilario Valdelli
What I have said is simple. Wikimania does its own job. A second Wikimania doesn't make sense. Regional and thematic are important and can help a support the movement. Regional conferences collect people around a region or continent and there is no obligation to speak English (Iberoconf is an

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Conference 2015

2014-09-12 Thread Wil Sinclair
Actually, I'd like to speak up on the name. I imagine the name reflected the enthusiasm of its first attendees, but Wikimania has all the wrong connotations in today's world. True mania is marked by little control, commitment, and rest. It also implies that attendees have to be dyed-in-the-wool,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Conference 2015

2014-09-12 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 8:17 PM, Wil Sinclair w...@wllm.com wrote: Actually, I'd like to speak up on the name. I imagine the name reflected the enthusiasm of its first attendees, but Wikimania has all the wrong connotations in today's world. True mania is marked by little control, commitment,

[Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia blog network?

2014-09-12 Thread David Cuenca
Hi, It is nice that there are several official blogs. However it is hard to navigate from blog to blog to discover what is going on at each chapter. Would it make sense to link to all official blogs from http://blog.wikimedia.org/ ? Cheers, Micru ___

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Conference 2015

2014-09-12 Thread Ilario Valdelli
But Wikimania is not only a Wikimedia Conference. It's a conference open to all people outside the Wikimedia movement. If the name should be as much as possible explicative, the switch from Wikimania to Wikimedia Conference is inappropriate. On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 12:17 PM, Wil Sinclair

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia blog network?

2014-09-12 Thread Richard Symonds
I think they use http://en.planet.wikimedia.org/ for that purpose. It's, ahh, not ideal. Richard Symonds Wikimedia UK 0207 065 0992 Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office 4th

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia blog network?

2014-09-12 Thread David Cuenca
It looks like a great homage to GeoCities :) But if that's the place, then it should be linked from all official blogs. Thanks, Micru On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 2:34 PM, Richard Symonds richard.symo...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote: I think they use http://en.planet.wikimedia.org/ for that purpose.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Conference 2015

2014-09-12 Thread Chris Keating
The word Conference doesn't in itself imply that an event is open or closed. C On 12 Sep 2014 13:06, Ilario Valdelli valde...@gmail.com wrote: But Wikimania is not only a Wikimedia Conference. It's a conference open to all people outside the Wikimedia movement. If the name should be as much

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Conference 2015

2014-09-12 Thread Ilario Valdelli
It's not the word Conference, is the word Wikimedia that address people to consider it as an event for the Wikimedia movement. On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 2:47 PM, Chris Keating chriskeatingw...@gmail.com wrote: The word Conference doesn't in itself imply that an event is open or closed. C On

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Conference 2015

2014-09-12 Thread Edward Saperia
The name of a conference is typically a descriptor of the contents of the programme rather than of the attendees :) *Edward Saperia* Conference Director Wikimania London http://www.wikimanialondon.org email e...@wikimanialondon.org • facebook http://www.facebook.com/edsaperia • twitter

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Conference 2015

2014-09-12 Thread Leigh Thelmadatter
For what its worth, I just added another 2 cents over at https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Future_of_the_Wikimedia_Conference From: e...@wikimanialondon.org Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 13:58:00 +0100 To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Conference 2015

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia blog network?

2014-09-12 Thread Michael Peel
I think there’s two options: - http://en.planet.wikimedia.org/ (which Richard mentioned) is for more for individual wikimedians - http://chaptersplanet.org is more for all of the Wikimedia organisations. Thanks, Mike On 12 Sep 2014, at 13:43, David Cuenca dacu...@gmail.com wrote: It looks

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia blog network?

2014-09-12 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
David Cuenca, 12/09/2014 14:00: However it is hard to navigate from blog to blog to discover what is going on at each chapter. There is http://www.chaptersplanet.org/ The Planet is linked from the Meta-Wiki sidebar so it certainly is the place. Nemo