[Wikimedia-l] Rosie Stephenson-Goodknight

2016-06-30 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, At Wikimania two wikipedians of the year were elected. The article for one of them and the data at Wikidata are pathetic. The article is a one liner stub. The Wikidata item had no statements and I added the few that were minimally needed. I find it incredible that we take no care of our own

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Rosie Stephenson-Goodknight

2016-06-30 Thread Erik Zachte
Gerard, feel free to follow-up on your call to action with more action. Erik Zachte -Original Message- From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Gerard Meijssen Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 11:38 To: Wikimedia Mailing List Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Ros

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Rosie Stephenson-Goodknight

2016-06-30 Thread Ziko van Dijk
Hello, Honestly, I am rather unhappy with the wording: "The article for one of them and the data at Wikidata are pathetic" Obviously, someone took the time to make a start. Saying "it is pathetic" sounds like "you are / your work is pathetic". This is a good example how the wording of a comment a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Rosie Stephenson-Goodknight

2016-06-30 Thread Joseph Fox
Gerard, I feel like you are basically describing the role of the Wikimedia Blog. Is that incorrect? Joe On Thu, 30 Jun 2016 at 11:35 Gerard Meijssen wrote: > Hoi, > Wikipedia is not my thing. I hardly ever write on articles. The article > states that Rosie wrote 1000 articles.. Hardly an argume

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Rosie Stephenson-Goodknight

2016-06-30 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Yes that is incorrect. There is a Wikipedia article, it is one line and I have the distinct feeling that it is incorrect. Thanks, GerardM On 30 June 2016 at 13:07, Joseph Fox wrote: > Gerard, I feel like you are basically describing the role of the Wikimedia > Blog. Is that incorrect?

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Rosie Stephenson-Goodknight

2016-06-30 Thread Asaf Bartov
I agree with Ziko. Gerard, please believe us, even if you don't perceive it yourself, that your aggressive language, however well-intentioned, is counterproductive, and is keeping others from engaging with you, or even engaging on the list in general. A. On Jun 30, 2016 4:22 PM, "Gerard Meijss

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Rosie Stephenson-Goodknight

2016-06-30 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Maybe but both the article and the data have improved considerably. Thanks, GerardM On 30 June 2016 at 15:37, Asaf Bartov wrote: > I agree with Ziko. > > Gerard, please believe us, even if you don't perceive it yourself, that > your aggressive language, however well-intentioned, is coun

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Rosie Stephenson-Goodknight

2016-06-30 Thread Chris "Jethro" Schilling
Gerard, Please don't fall back on the "ends justify the means" argument here. There were many, many other ways to call attention to this problem. You chose a way that was needlessly aggressive and accusatory. You didn't have to. Here is how I would have done it with only minor changes to what y

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Rosie Stephenson-Goodknight

2016-06-30 Thread Pete Forsyth
Excellent example Chris, thanks for taking the time to write that up. I agree it would have had at least as much positive effect, and also substantially less negative effect, than the original post. One person's opinion might be especially worth considering: I wonder whether the person whose name

[Wikimedia-l] Paid editing and the privacy policy

2016-06-30 Thread James Heilman
Hey All On the English Wikipedia we are having a RfC regarding what is allowed when trying to address undisclosed paid promotional editing. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Harassment#Can_other_site_accounts_ever_be_linked_to Specifically we are discussing if this statement is allowe