[Wikimedia-l] Re: Welcoming María Sefidari as a Foundation consultant. :)

2021-06-26 Thread Chris Keating
Hi Amanda and Maggie, On the whole I am a great fan of this kind of office hour and believe it does a lot to improve communication between the WMF and community members. However this is not a problem of communication. The people speaking up in this thread are largely not the people who are

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Welcoming María Sefidari as a Foundation consultant. :)

2021-06-26 Thread Adam Wight
+1 to Paulo's point, personally I would like to see us ease up on María and this seemingly temporary paid role. It's not a sinecure, not an arbitrary nepotistic position—rather, it looks like WMF would benefit. If the people in this thread truly have the good of the organization and the movement

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Welcoming María Sefidari as a Foundation consultant. :)

2021-06-26 Thread
Pleased to see an open meeting to discuss this being arranged by Maggie.[1] Sorry to see that both WMF Legal and the WMF board fail to provide practical governance advice on the consultancy and fail to address how this is inappropriate according to the board's published policies. It is a shame

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Welcoming María Sefidari as a Foundation consultant. :)

2021-06-26 Thread Andreas Kolbe
Adam, I understand that you would like to see María provide advice, but this is a volunteer organisation – everybody, WMF paid staff excepted, works, and contributes their expertise, for free. That includes board members. And I fail to see why a board member who – according to Form 990 data at

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Welcoming María Sefidari as a Foundation consultant. :)

2021-06-26 Thread Paulo Santos Perneta
I'm not sure reversing such a decision, with the consequent indemnisation that most probably WMF will have to pay to Maria Sefidari, is the best solution out of this conundrum. If the evil is already done, it should be solved in a way that best serves the Movement, and throwing such indemnization

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Welcoming María Sefidari as a Foundation consultant. :)

2021-06-26 Thread Maggie Dennis
On Sat, Jun 26, 2021 at 8:34 AM Fæ wrote: > > 1. It is peculiar that "established Wikimedians" appear to be > expected to out themselves just to take part in Tuesday's Zoom call, > which seems an unnecessary barrier. > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/IRC_office_hours/Office_hours_2021-06-29

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Tuesday Foundation office hour

2021-06-26 Thread Maggie Dennis
Hello, folks. I'm sorry for the quick self-correction. As implied in yesterday's email, we pulled this together rather quickly, and rather than write the announcement from scratch, we based it off of a different meeting. You don't need to share details about your affiliation, etc., to get the

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Welcoming María Sefidari as a Foundation consultant. :)

2021-06-26 Thread wikicabayi
Maggie, How widely was this role advertised? Where? In 2019 Maria's partner invoked a process which, judging from the ensuing furore, was known only to Foundation insiders. That episode ripped the English Wikipedia community apart for months after, and still casts a long shadow. In 2021 Maria

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Welcoming María Sefidari as a Foundation consultant. :)

2021-06-26 Thread aketon
Hello all, While this office hour will be attended by more than me, I want to be very clear what my intentions are, because I understand that some people may be concerned that I plan to show up to simply justify our decision. That’s not my goal at all. My intentions are to share perspectives,

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Welcoming María Sefidari as a Foundation consultant. :)

2021-06-26 Thread Dan Szymborski
There is nobody in existence whose advice is worth crossing serious bright lines in ethics of corporate governance and quite possibly legal ones. This isn't a parking ticket. Whether the offer and acceptance were made in good faith or bad faith leads to the same conclusion: a completely

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Welcoming María Sefidari as a Foundation consultant. :)

2021-06-26 Thread Erik Moeller
I strongly agree that whatever standards of governance the movement develops should be adhered to consistently. I think it's entirely understandable if folks are angry if WMF holds affiliates to a different standard than itself. A symmetrical waiting period for Board members seeking paid positions