Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: [PRESS] Turkish authorities block Wikipedia

2017-05-01 Thread Andre Engels
For the BBC article, see http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-39754909 On Sun, Apr 30, 2017 at 8:01 PM, Pharos wrote: > The Wikipedia aspect was highlighted on the BBC and other sites in earlier > stories, before the other events happened. > > Thanks, > Pharos > > On Sun, Apr 30, 2017 at 1:18 PM,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] GDPR and Wikimedia content?

2018-05-30 Thread Andre Engels
On Sun, May 27, 2018 at 11:32 PM, David Gerard wrote: > I'm a big fan of the GDPR and why it had to be created. (I'm doing a lot of > the bureaucratic work on the tech side at the day job and am getting very > used to thinking of ways something could constitute Personally Identifying > Information

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Profile of Magnus Manske

2016-03-12 Thread Andre Engels
The issue is that you are framing all objections to be of the "it's new, so it's bad" crowd. I'm not even convinced that such a crowd exists, let alone that it is the mainstream of community is behind it, as you seem to imply. To be honest, as a member of the community who had a negative opinion ab

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The Case for Federation: Should Parts of WMF Be Spun Off?

2016-03-24 Thread Andre Engels
On Thu, Mar 24, 2016 at 8:48 AM, David Emrany wrote: > Since the "Mediawiki" trademark was lost to WMF the day you and > Anthere placed the logo into public domain [1], how can the WMF now > spin-off this new organization ?. That's incorrect, putting something in the public domain does not remov

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fresh data on the gender gap in content

2016-06-18 Thread Andre Engels
On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 9:14 PM, Asaf Bartov wrote: > 1. The Nepali statistic is simply astonishing! There must be a story > there. I'm keen on learning more about this, if anyone can shed light. I looked, and it seems that a large proportion consists of porn actresses... See the attached sampl

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Was the Wikimedia Foundation's removal of membership in 2006 legal?

2016-01-27 Thread Andre Engels
From the discussion on the creation of Wikimedia I remember that there definitely was an intention to have members involved in the election of the board. Apart from the appointed board members, there would be two community selected members - one chosen by the editing community, the other by the fin

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Commons copyright extremism

2014-12-11 Thread Andre Engels
On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 6:21 PM, Russavia wrote: > To answer the tractor question first. Of course not, there is nothing > copyrightable in this image. I see many copyrightable objects in this image. The tractor. The car. The logo. The boards with demonstration slogans. The clothes. The gate. An

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Commons copyright extremism

2014-12-11 Thread Andre Engels
No, they do not. The Dutch title of copyright law considering freedom of panorama: "Als inbreuk op het auteursrecht op een werk als bedoeld in artikel 10, eerste lid, onder 6°, of op een werk, betrekkelijk tot de bouwkunde als bedoeld in artikel 10, eerste lid, onder 8°, dat is gemaakt om permanen

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Commons copyright extremism

2014-12-11 Thread Andre Engels
M, Jane Darnell wrote: > Wait, are you saying all those pics are going to be deleted then? There > must be tens of 1000's out there by now > > On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 8:27 PM, Andre Engels wrote: > >> No, they do not. The Dutch title of copyright law considering freedom

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Commons copyright extremism

2014-12-12 Thread Andre Engels
And where do you see what you are writing here? If you really consider it bullying to say outside Commons that you think something is wrong with Commons, then the situation is much worse than I thought it would be. Your analogy is severely flawed in many places, and only functions to enrage those w

Re: [Wikimedia-l] How to fix Commons

2014-12-13 Thread Andre Engels
On Sat, Dec 13, 2014 at 5:33 AM, svetlana wrote: > MZMcBride wrote: >> As much as the term is an awful buzzword, Commons could also do with >> additional gamification, from what I've seen. If we can set up an easy >> keyword/tagging system, having users help us sort and tag media would be >> amaz

Re: [Wikimedia-l] New Evaluation Report: Wikipedia Education Program

2014-04-07 Thread Andre Engels
Ccml,bv .. Op 7 apr. 2014 03:35 schreef "Jaime Anstee" het volgende: > Greetings, > > (Please pardon any cross-posting) > > The final in our series of the Evaluation Reports (beta), the report on the > Wikipedia Education Program, is now available on meta: > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Prog

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Lets delete everything from commons (was The tragedy of Commons)

2014-06-22 Thread Andre Engels
an inventing far out reasons to think why they maybe in some way are not free and thus delete them? Andre Engels On Sun, Jun 22, 2014 at 11:56 AM, Craig Franklin wrote: > Pardon me if this has already been covered, but as I understand it the > problem is not the legal status of the files in I

Re: [Wikimedia-l] is it possible to accept bitcoins without receiving stolen property?

2014-08-12 Thread Andre Engels
o give up their complete financial privacy, I find the first option the least morally repugnant one. Andre Engels On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 11:49 PM, James Salsman wrote: > Given this news about BGP hijacking used to mine hundreds of thousands > (if not millions) of dollars worth of bi

Re: [Wikimedia-l] is wikipedia zero illegal because it violates net neutrality?

2013-08-26 Thread Andre Engels
Dutch telecommunication law, article 7.4a (the net neutrality article), paragraph 3: "Aanbieders van internettoegangsdiensten stellen de hoogte van tarieven voor internettoegangsdiensten niet afhankelijk van de diensten en toepassingen die via deze diensten worden aangeboden of gebruikt." "Offere

Re: [Wikimedia-l] is wikipedia zero illegal because it violates net neutrality?

2013-08-28 Thread Andre Engels
On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 8:12 AM, rupert THURNER wrote: > Am 26.08.2013 18:14 schrieb "Andre Engels" : > > > Dutch telecommunication law, article 7.4a (the net neutrality article), > > paragraph 3: > > > > "Aanbieders van internettoegangsdie

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Is the capability to delete usernames compatible with the CCBYSA license?

2013-10-23 Thread Andre Engels
On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 10:24 AM, Strainu wrote: > Hi, > > Someone brought up an interesting issue: is it moral for the vandals > to be credited as contributors to articles (especially when exporting > the article as pdf)? After experimenting a little, it turns out that > deleting the usernames f

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Is the capability to delete usernames compatible with the CCBYSA license?

2013-10-23 Thread Andre Engels
On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 10:45 AM, Strainu wrote: > > Same argument in > > different wording: None of the creativity that goes into the vandalizing > > from version A to version B is present in version C. Thus, version C does > > not fall under the copyright of the vandal. Which means that there

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Relationship between Wikimedia and oDesk

2014-01-08 Thread Andre Engels
On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 12:43 PM, Gryllida wrote: > Thought paid editing is prohibited. It could be nice to find ways to > enforce that. > I don't think it's expressly forbidden, 'frowned upon' would be the words I'd use. Apart from that, I have a feeling this whole thread is a storm in less than

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Paid editing v. paid advocacy (editing)

2014-01-12 Thread Andre Engels
On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 10:06 PM, Andreas Kolbe wrote: > Which reminds me – I often think it odd that Wikimedia will fund a > Wikipedian-in-Residence for some regional tourist attraction (think the > Welsh Coastal Path project, or the York Museum), > Wikipedians-in-Residence are not funded by Wi

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Any studies on economic impact of community-produced open data?

2012-06-04 Thread Andre Engels
On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 3:17 PM, Thomas Dalton wrote: > On 4 June 2012 13:57, David Gerard wrote: >> AIUI, weekdays office hours are our peak access period, and Wikipedia >> generally isn't blocked in offices the way Facebook, etc. often are. >> This suggests it's good for *something* economically

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Any studies on economic impact of community-produced open data?

2012-06-04 Thread Andre Engels
I'll take another route (although probably just as meaningless as most others). The normal way of generating money over the net is through advertisements. How much would Wikipedia make in advertisements, would they use them? Using a conservative price of 0,5 cents per pageview, and using the data f

Re: [Wikimedia-l] TVTropes deletes all pages with "Rape" in title under advertising pressure.

2012-06-26 Thread Andre Engels
On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 9:22 PM, Marc A. Pelletier wrote: > On 26/06/2012 2:02 PM, Kim Bruning wrote: >> >> Wow, thank goodness we never had advertising. The TV-Tropes wiki has been >> forced to censor a >> number of pages due to advertiser pressure. >> > > And thus is the wisdom of eschewing adve

Re: [Wikimedia-l] License issue on GPL and CC-by-sa mix up

2013-02-23 Thread Andre Engels
On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 11:12 AM, Mathieu Stumpf wrote: > One of my favorite wikimedia project is the wiktionary, I probably use > it everyday and I like to contribute on the french chapter here and > there. > > As I'm learning esperanto, I wanted to improve the french wiktionary on > this topic.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Question: How do we define lobbying?

2013-04-20 Thread Andre Engels
On Sat, Apr 20, 2013 at 8:46 AM, Ilario Valdelli wrote: > The problem is that in some European countries lobbying is in a gray zone > at the limit of "corruption" and it's not legally recognized. > > What is important is to define clearly what people means with "lobbying" > and may be better to c

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Breivik: My Biggest Influence Was Wikipedia

2012-04-18 Thread Andre Engels
On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 11:08 AM, Svip wrote: > On 18 April 2012 10:53, Mike  Dupont wrote: > >> this just in, scary. >> >> Breivik: My Biggest Influence Was Wikipedia >> http://www.businessinsider.com/norwegian-terrorist-anders-breivik-my-biggest-influence-was-wikipedia-2012-4#ixzz1sN3LZci6 > >