Re: [Wikimedia-l] New beta feature: Syntax Highlighting!

[Anders Wennersten]

Thanks, it is a great feature! Especially to easily find the Ref tags.

And it work just fine for me, technically.

Anders


Den 2017-08-23 kl. 20:41, skrev Danny Horn:

Hi everyone,

I've got some good news -- wikitext syntax highlighting is live again, and
I'm almost completely sure it's staying live. :) You can now enable it as a
Beta feature on all LTR wikis.




On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 4:23 PM, Danny Horn  wrote:


Hi Andy,

Thanks for sending your thoughts, that's the kind of feedback that we
need. People can either write responses in this thread, or post it on the
project's talk page: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Community_Tech/
Wikitext_editor_syntax_highlighting

We'll respond as comments come in, making bug fixes and then making a plan
for changes as we see what people have to say. Thanks again.

Danny



On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 4:07 PM Andy Mabbett 
wrote:


On 3 August 2017 at 23:21, Danny Horn  wrote:


WMF's Community Tech team team is happy to announce that Wikitext Editor
Syntax Highlighting has been released as a beta feature today on all LTR
Wikimedia projects!

I'm all in favour of having syntax highlighting - I teach people to
edit wikicode, and I find it helps them to learn it more quickly.

I've been using the syntax highlighting gadget  en.Wikipedia:

https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Remember_the_dot/
Syntax_highlighter

for some time now. I've just disabled, it, and instead enabled the new
beta feature.

My first impression is that it is lacking in contrast - it's far
harder, now, to differentiate the various types of content. Indeed the
colour pairs used (e.g. #8800CC vs. #B3) fail WCAG web
accessibility guidelines for colour contrast.

I realise that choice of styling colours is a "bikeshed" matter, but
contrast ratio is a quantifiable and objective accessibility issue.

Also, because the script does not load immediately, the larger
headings cause the page to "dance" as the script kicks in.

What plans are there to either receive and act on feedback such as
this, or to provide greater user-customisation options?

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] New beta feature: Syntax Highlighting!

[Danny Horn]

Hi Peter,

This is the first time I've heard about that happening, thanks for bringing
it up. Can you say more about what you're experiencing? I don't think
syntax highlighting gives an error message like that, so I'm not sure what
you mean.

Danny

On Thu, Aug 24, 2017 at 2:31 AM, Peter Southwood <
peter.southw...@telkomsa.net> wrote:

> Good news indeed.
> Is there a way we can stop it from crashing in mid edit and giving
> unhelpful advice like get a faster computer or a faster connection? I would
> not mind waiting a little longer for it to finish the job. It would be
> helpful if there were a user setting which allows longer wait time for
> those of us who cannot get a faster computer or connection for economic or
> geographical reasons.
> Cheers,
> Peter
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On
> Behalf Of Danny Horn
> Sent: Wednesday, 23 August 2017 8:41 PM
> To: Wikimedia Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] New beta feature: Syntax Highlighting!
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> I've got some good news -- wikitext syntax highlighting is live again, and
> I'm almost completely sure it's staying live. :) You can now enable it as a
> Beta feature on all LTR wikis.
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 4:23 PM, Danny Horn  wrote:
>
> > Hi Andy,
> >
> > Thanks for sending your thoughts, that's the kind of feedback that we
> > need. People can either write responses in this thread, or post it on
> > the project's talk page:
> > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Community_Tech/
> > Wikitext_editor_syntax_highlighting
> >
> > We'll respond as comments come in, making bug fixes and then making a
> > plan for changes as we see what people have to say. Thanks again.
> >
> > Danny
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 4:07 PM Andy Mabbett
> > 
> > wrote:
> >
> >> On 3 August 2017 at 23:21, Danny Horn  wrote:
> >>
> >> > WMF's Community Tech team team is happy to announce that Wikitext
> >> > Editor Syntax Highlighting has been released as a beta feature
> >> > today on all LTR Wikimedia projects!
> >>
> >> I'm all in favour of having syntax highlighting - I teach people to
> >> edit wikicode, and I find it helps them to learn it more quickly.
> >>
> >> I've been using the syntax highlighting gadget  en.Wikipedia:
> >>
> >>https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Remember_the_dot/
> >> Syntax_highlighter
> >>
> >> for some time now. I've just disabled, it, and instead enabled the
> >> new beta feature.
> >>
> >> My first impression is that it is lacking in contrast - it's far
> >> harder, now, to differentiate the various types of content. Indeed
> >> the colour pairs used (e.g. #8800CC vs. #B3) fail WCAG web
> >> accessibility guidelines for colour contrast.
> >>
> >> I realise that choice of styling colours is a "bikeshed" matter, but
> >> contrast ratio is a quantifiable and objective accessibility issue.
> >>
> >> Also, because the script does not load immediately, the larger
> >> headings cause the page to "dance" as the script kicks in.
> >>
> >> What plans are there to either receive and act on feedback such as
> >> this, or to provide greater user-customisation options?
> >>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] New beta feature: Syntax Highlighting!

[Peter Southwood]

Good news indeed.
Is there a way we can stop it from crashing in mid edit and giving unhelpful 
advice like get a faster computer or a faster connection? I would not mind 
waiting a little longer for it to finish the job. It would be helpful if there 
were a user setting which allows longer wait time for those of us who cannot 
get a faster computer or connection for economic or geographical reasons.
Cheers,
Peter

-Original Message-
From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of 
Danny Horn
Sent: Wednesday, 23 August 2017 8:41 PM
To: Wikimedia Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] New beta feature: Syntax Highlighting!

Hi everyone,

I've got some good news -- wikitext syntax highlighting is live again, and I'm 
almost completely sure it's staying live. :) You can now enable it as a Beta 
feature on all LTR wikis.




On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 4:23 PM, Danny Horn  wrote:

> Hi Andy,
>
> Thanks for sending your thoughts, that's the kind of feedback that we 
> need. People can either write responses in this thread, or post it on 
> the project's talk page: 
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Community_Tech/
> Wikitext_editor_syntax_highlighting
>
> We'll respond as comments come in, making bug fixes and then making a 
> plan for changes as we see what people have to say. Thanks again.
>
> Danny
>
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 4:07 PM Andy Mabbett 
> 
> wrote:
>
>> On 3 August 2017 at 23:21, Danny Horn  wrote:
>>
>> > WMF's Community Tech team team is happy to announce that Wikitext 
>> > Editor Syntax Highlighting has been released as a beta feature 
>> > today on all LTR Wikimedia projects!
>>
>> I'm all in favour of having syntax highlighting - I teach people to 
>> edit wikicode, and I find it helps them to learn it more quickly.
>>
>> I've been using the syntax highlighting gadget  en.Wikipedia:
>>
>>https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Remember_the_dot/
>> Syntax_highlighter
>>
>> for some time now. I've just disabled, it, and instead enabled the 
>> new beta feature.
>>
>> My first impression is that it is lacking in contrast - it's far 
>> harder, now, to differentiate the various types of content. Indeed 
>> the colour pairs used (e.g. #8800CC vs. #B3) fail WCAG web 
>> accessibility guidelines for colour contrast.
>>
>> I realise that choice of styling colours is a "bikeshed" matter, but 
>> contrast ratio is a quantifiable and objective accessibility issue.
>>
>> Also, because the script does not load immediately, the larger 
>> headings cause the page to "dance" as the script kicks in.
>>
>> What plans are there to either receive and act on feedback such as 
>> this, or to provide greater user-customisation options?
>>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] New beta feature: Syntax Highlighting!

[Danny Horn]

Hi everyone,

I've got some good news -- wikitext syntax highlighting is live again, and
I'm almost completely sure it's staying live. :) You can now enable it as a
Beta feature on all LTR wikis.




On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 4:23 PM, Danny Horn  wrote:

> Hi Andy,
>
> Thanks for sending your thoughts, that's the kind of feedback that we
> need. People can either write responses in this thread, or post it on the
> project's talk page: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Community_Tech/
> Wikitext_editor_syntax_highlighting
>
> We'll respond as comments come in, making bug fixes and then making a plan
> for changes as we see what people have to say. Thanks again.
>
> Danny
>
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 4:07 PM Andy Mabbett 
> wrote:
>
>> On 3 August 2017 at 23:21, Danny Horn  wrote:
>>
>> > WMF's Community Tech team team is happy to announce that Wikitext Editor
>> > Syntax Highlighting has been released as a beta feature today on all LTR
>> > Wikimedia projects!
>>
>> I'm all in favour of having syntax highlighting - I teach people to
>> edit wikicode, and I find it helps them to learn it more quickly.
>>
>> I've been using the syntax highlighting gadget  en.Wikipedia:
>>
>>https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Remember_the_dot/
>> Syntax_highlighter
>>
>> for some time now. I've just disabled, it, and instead enabled the new
>> beta feature.
>>
>> My first impression is that it is lacking in contrast - it's far
>> harder, now, to differentiate the various types of content. Indeed the
>> colour pairs used (e.g. #8800CC vs. #B3) fail WCAG web
>> accessibility guidelines for colour contrast.
>>
>> I realise that choice of styling colours is a "bikeshed" matter, but
>> contrast ratio is a quantifiable and objective accessibility issue.
>>
>> Also, because the script does not load immediately, the larger
>> headings cause the page to "dance" as the script kicks in.
>>
>> What plans are there to either receive and act on feedback such as
>> this, or to provide greater user-customisation options?
>>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] New beta feature: Syntax Highlighting!

[Ryan Kaldari]

Bad news, we have to temporarily roll-back syntax highlighting to fix a
page load issue (T172458). We should have it back on soon. Sorry for
anti-climactic news!
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] New beta feature: Syntax Highlighting!

[Danny Horn]

Hi Andy,

Thanks for sending your thoughts, that's the kind of feedback that we need.
People can either write responses in this thread, or post it on the
project's talk page:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Community_Tech/Wikitext_editor_syntax_highlighting

We'll respond as comments come in, making bug fixes and then making a plan
for changes as we see what people have to say. Thanks again.

Danny



On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 4:07 PM Andy Mabbett 
wrote:

> On 3 August 2017 at 23:21, Danny Horn  wrote:
>
> > WMF's Community Tech team team is happy to announce that Wikitext Editor
> > Syntax Highlighting has been released as a beta feature today on all LTR
> > Wikimedia projects!
>
> I'm all in favour of having syntax highlighting - I teach people to
> edit wikicode, and I find it helps them to learn it more quickly.
>
> I've been using the syntax highlighting gadget  en.Wikipedia:
>
>https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Remember_the_dot/Syntax_highlighter
>
> for some time now. I've just disabled, it, and instead enabled the new
> beta feature.
>
> My first impression is that it is lacking in contrast - it's far
> harder, now, to differentiate the various types of content. Indeed the
> colour pairs used (e.g. #8800CC vs. #B3) fail WCAG web
> accessibility guidelines for colour contrast.
>
> I realise that choice of styling colours is a "bikeshed" matter, but
> contrast ratio is a quantifiable and objective accessibility issue.
>
> Also, because the script does not load immediately, the larger
> headings cause the page to "dance" as the script kicks in.
>
> What plans are there to either receive and act on feedback such as
> this, or to provide greater user-customisation options?
>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] New beta feature: Syntax Highlighting!

[Natacha Rault]

Great news, thank you! Nattes à chat

> Le 4 août 2017 à 00:21, Danny Horn  a écrit :
> 
> Hi everyone,
> 
> WMF's Community Tech team team is happy to announce that Wikitext Editor
> Syntax Highlighting has been released as a beta feature today on all LTR
> Wikimedia projects!
> 
> Syntax Highlighting was the #6 request in this year's Community Wishlist
> Survey [1]  -- a way to help editors parse the wikitext in the edit window
> by using color, bolding, italics and size to make it easier to see which
> parts are article text, and which are links, templates, tags and headings.
> 
> It's easy to separate the link target from the actual link text, section
> headings are bigger, and adding bold and italics actually changes the way
> it looks in the edit window. Plus -- thanks to the amazing performance
> optimization done by volunteer developer Pastakhov -- it loads a lot faster
> than previous versions of syntax highlighting.
> 
> Unfortunately, the feature isn't available in RTL languages yet; we're
> working on some bugs, and we'll release it as soon as we can. We're also
> hoping to improve the Syntax Highlighting performance for people who also
> use the "New wikitext mode" Beta feature.
> 
> You can find Syntax Highlighting under the Beta features tab in
> Preferences. I hope you all love it and find it useful! If you've got
> feedback, you can click on the Discussion link in Beta features, or leave
> comments and questions on the Community Tech project talk page. [2] Thanks!
> 
> 
> Danny Horn
> Senior Product Manager
> WMF Community Tech
> 
> [1] Community Wishlist Survey:
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/2016_Community_Wishlist_Survey/Results
> 
> [2] Project talk page:
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Community_Tech/Wikitext_editor_syntax_highlighting
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] New beta feature: Syntax Highlighting!

[Andy Mabbett]

On 3 August 2017 at 23:21, Danny Horn  wrote:

> WMF's Community Tech team team is happy to announce that Wikitext Editor
> Syntax Highlighting has been released as a beta feature today on all LTR
> Wikimedia projects!

I'm all in favour of having syntax highlighting - I teach people to
edit wikicode, and I find it helps them to learn it more quickly.

I've been using the syntax highlighting gadget  en.Wikipedia:

   https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Remember_the_dot/Syntax_highlighter

for some time now. I've just disabled, it, and instead enabled the new
beta feature.

My first impression is that it is lacking in contrast - it's far
harder, now, to differentiate the various types of content. Indeed the
colour pairs used (e.g. #8800CC vs. #B3) fail WCAG web
accessibility guidelines for colour contrast.

I realise that choice of styling colours is a "bikeshed" matter, but
contrast ratio is a quantifiable and objective accessibility issue.

Also, because the script does not load immediately, the larger
headings cause the page to "dance" as the script kicks in.

What plans are there to either receive and act on feedback such as
this, or to provide greater user-customisation options?

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] New beta feature: Syntax Highlighting!

[James Heilman]

Great to see this work going forwards. Can we make the colors more like
those used in WikEd? We have build instructions based on the coloring of
text created by WikEd to help guide our translation folks.

James

On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 4:30 PM, Danny Horn  wrote:

> Oh, a PS: We're going to post an announcement on some village pumps, but
> please feel free to share this with your community. Thanks!
>
> On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 3:21 PM, Danny Horn  wrote:
>
> > Hi everyone,
> >
> > WMF's Community Tech team team is happy to announce that Wikitext Editor
> > Syntax Highlighting has been released as a beta feature today on all LTR
> > Wikimedia projects!
> >
> > Syntax Highlighting was the #6 request in this year's Community Wishlist
> > Survey [1]  -- a way to help editors parse the wikitext in the edit
> window
> > by using color, bolding, italics and size to make it easier to see which
> > parts are article text, and which are links, templates, tags and
> headings.
> >
> > It's easy to separate the link target from the actual link text, section
> > headings are bigger, and adding bold and italics actually changes the way
> > it looks in the edit window. Plus -- thanks to the amazing performance
> > optimization done by volunteer developer Pastakhov -- it loads a lot
> faster
> > than previous versions of syntax highlighting.
> >
> > Unfortunately, the feature isn't available in RTL languages yet; we're
> > working on some bugs, and we'll release it as soon as we can. We're also
> > hoping to improve the Syntax Highlighting performance for people who also
> > use the "New wikitext mode" Beta feature.
> >
> > You can find Syntax Highlighting under the Beta features tab in
> > Preferences. I hope you all love it and find it useful! If you've got
> > feedback, you can click on the Discussion link in Beta features, or leave
> > comments and questions on the Community Tech project talk page. [2]
> Thanks!
> >
> >
> > Danny Horn
> > Senior Product Manager
> > WMF Community Tech
> >
> > [1] Community Wishlist Survey: https://meta.wikimedia.org/
> > wiki/2016_Community_Wishlist_Survey/Results
> >
> > [2] Project talk page: https://meta.wikimedia.org/
> > wiki/Talk:Community_Tech/Wikitext_editor_syntax_highlighting
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] New beta feature: Syntax Highlighting!

[Danny Horn]

Oh, a PS: We're going to post an announcement on some village pumps, but
please feel free to share this with your community. Thanks!

On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 3:21 PM, Danny Horn  wrote:

> Hi everyone,
>
> WMF's Community Tech team team is happy to announce that Wikitext Editor
> Syntax Highlighting has been released as a beta feature today on all LTR
> Wikimedia projects!
>
> Syntax Highlighting was the #6 request in this year's Community Wishlist
> Survey [1]  -- a way to help editors parse the wikitext in the edit window
> by using color, bolding, italics and size to make it easier to see which
> parts are article text, and which are links, templates, tags and headings.
>
> It's easy to separate the link target from the actual link text, section
> headings are bigger, and adding bold and italics actually changes the way
> it looks in the edit window. Plus -- thanks to the amazing performance
> optimization done by volunteer developer Pastakhov -- it loads a lot faster
> than previous versions of syntax highlighting.
>
> Unfortunately, the feature isn't available in RTL languages yet; we're
> working on some bugs, and we'll release it as soon as we can. We're also
> hoping to improve the Syntax Highlighting performance for people who also
> use the "New wikitext mode" Beta feature.
>
> You can find Syntax Highlighting under the Beta features tab in
> Preferences. I hope you all love it and find it useful! If you've got
> feedback, you can click on the Discussion link in Beta features, or leave
> comments and questions on the Community Tech project talk page. [2] Thanks!
>
>
> Danny Horn
> Senior Product Manager
> WMF Community Tech
>
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[Wikimedia-l] New beta feature: Syntax Highlighting!

[Danny Horn]

Hi everyone,

WMF's Community Tech team team is happy to announce that Wikitext Editor
Syntax Highlighting has been released as a beta feature today on all LTR
Wikimedia projects!

Syntax Highlighting was the #6 request in this year's Community Wishlist
Survey [1]  -- a way to help editors parse the wikitext in the edit window
by using color, bolding, italics and size to make it easier to see which
parts are article text, and which are links, templates, tags and headings.

It's easy to separate the link target from the actual link text, section
headings are bigger, and adding bold and italics actually changes the way
it looks in the edit window. Plus -- thanks to the amazing performance
optimization done by volunteer developer Pastakhov -- it loads a lot faster
than previous versions of syntax highlighting.

Unfortunately, the feature isn't available in RTL languages yet; we're
working on some bugs, and we'll release it as soon as we can. We're also
hoping to improve the Syntax Highlighting performance for people who also
use the "New wikitext mode" Beta feature.

You can find Syntax Highlighting under the Beta features tab in
Preferences. I hope you all love it and find it useful! If you've got
feedback, you can click on the Discussion link in Beta features, or leave
comments and questions on the Community Tech project talk page. [2] Thanks!


Danny Horn
Senior Product Manager
WMF Community Tech

[1] Community Wishlist Survey:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/2016_Community_Wishlist_Survey/Results

[2] Project talk page:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Community_Tech/Wikitext_editor_syntax_highlighting
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