+1 to Subhashish's points of view.
I have another point about the nomenclature. How can three Wikimedians from
just one country, Bangladesh in this case, get to form a group that by its
very nomenclature represents a complete region, which includes a very large
number of communities, without any
I want to write with the spirit that I respect the co-founders of the
Wikimedians of the Asia Pacific User Group (WAPAC) as individual volunteer
fellow Wikimedians. Still, I strongly disagree with creating this user
group. It seems like forming a new user group where three co-founders have
some
Note: my last mail was caught in moderation queue, I sent it before
Aishik's last mail but it got approved after his mail.
Iftee
On Sat, May 27, 2023, 7:41 PM Aaqib Anjum Aafi
wrote:
> I am not sure where is the disappointing stuff in this thread. You are
> free to start a usergroup and work
Dear Iftee ,
Thank you for your email. I would like to clarify that Wikimedia Bangladesh
had no involvement in the formation of this group. Aishik has repeatedly
confirmed this fact, so I'm not sure why you continue to mention Wikimedia
Bangladesh. It's important not to confuse this with any
I am not sure where is the disappointing stuff in this thread. You are free to
start a usergroup and work under an umbrella which adds more to the diversity
of the movement, and I suppose it should, in your case, given you plenty of
valuable contributions. However, calling helpful and friendly
Hello everyone,
I agree with Butch and Gnangarra. We need to solve local conflicts first
and then go for broader global collaboration. Volunteers are the fuel of
Wikimedia, it's not a wise step to completely ignore volunteers from a
particular region and start an affiliate covering those areas.
Thanks everyone, I don't want to work on this anymore. I'm also going to
end my Wikimedia movement. Most of the comments here are not constructive
but full of personal ego*.
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তুমি আষাঢ়ে গল্প জুড়ে দিয়েছ বৈশাখ মাসে। এইসব আষাঢ়ে গল্প দিয়ে তুমি আলোচনায় যে
প্রভাব ফেলতে চেয়েছিলে সেটাতে সক্ষম
Hey Aishik,
The first action you need to make is to move the meta wiki page to Draft
page and find a working name. Maybe *Wikipedia Project West and Central
Asia.*
ESEAP started as ESEA in 2014 during Wikimania London 2014 (Source:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/ESEA_Meetup/MeetingMinutes) . I
Hi Aishik
For clarity, I am part of the interim ESEAP Hub committee, I have been
involved with ESEAP since its founding in 2012, and I'm part of the ESEAP
COT for Wikimania 2023. Reading this and looking at the page you created,
what I see is a symptom of internal issues in Bangladesh and a
To everyone,
Thank you for your continued engagement and valuable feedback regarding the
establishment of the UG. We have carefully considered the concerns raised
regarding the name and the inclusion of the ESEAP region. We are committed to
addressing these issues and ensuring a conflict-free
I agree with Butch and Bodhi on this. However, Ameisenigel is also right on
their input. fwiw, the use of Wikimedia housemark logo is subject to a
trademark policy, apart from whatever has been said so far.
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It's good to have ambitions, but a user group that strives to span 25
countries (between them containing maybe half of the Earth's population)
while currently has 8 members is maybe a bit too ambitious.
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Hello everyone,
I would like to add a few points with respect to this discussion since
there are lots of undermining "thoughts".
1. Firstly, there is no such thing called an 'associate member' in the
bylaws of Wikimedia Bangladesh. One can easily become a supporting/regular
member following the
To our Bangla Wikimedians who initiated this tensive plan,
I humbly suggest that rather than you set an ambition of going further
east, you work on capacitating collaborating and helping the Wikimedia
communities of Central Asia, Bhutan, Maldives, Pakistan, Afghanistan and
even the islands of the
Well, this is strange and interesting at the same time. There is a lot
going on inside South Asian communities that have been hidden from the
world and have started to surface now.
I have made an effort to analyze and document my observations regarding the
"WAP UG" and have outlined them in the
Hello Aishik,
The name of the group suggests that it is a geographical group encompassing
entire South Asia and ESEAP region which overlaps with all the geographical
affiliates of the region including the ESEAP hub. Whether this group tries
to be complimentary or not, the group directly comes
Hi Aishik,
I understand your intent but I believe you should consider the practicality
of choosing a group name. I suggest you establish a clear network first and
build trust of your intended target.
We all wish the general public to have a simple understanding of how our
Wikimedia community is
Dear Bodhisattwa and Butch Bustria,
Thank you for your responses and expressing your concerns regarding the
establishment of WAP User Group. I appreciate your input and would like to
provide further clarification on the matter.
Firstly, I want to emphasize that we have acknowledged the
Dear Bodhisattwa and Butch Bustria,
Thank you for your responses and expressing your concerns regarding the
establishment of WAP User Group. I appreciate your input and would like to
provide further clarification on the matter.
Firstly, I want to emphasize that we have acknowledged the
Hello.
Maybe there is some kind of a misunderstanding: We have many user groups
and not all of them are recognized user groups.
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_user_groups says "Recognition
from the Affiliations Committee allows a group to apply for using the
Wikimedia trademarks and to
Hello Aishik,
I cannot find any evidence that this is a legitimate user group recognized
through Affcom process. I also could not find any evidence if you have
engaged affiliates of the region and consulted for conflict and overlap. It
looks nothing more than a personal endeavour to me.
For your
Dear Aishik,
Kindly consult with Wikimedia Affiliations Committee (AFFCOM). Please
perform a valid case study before engaging to this.
There is also the Wikimedia Regional Hubs being discussed within the
Movement Strategy. ESEAP is one of them.
Kind regards,
*Butch Bustria*
Coordinator
East,
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