Re: [Wikimedia-l] World Health Organization licences & COVID-19
The same video translated on Macedonian language is on national television
in my country several days already.
Regards,
Zana
On Thu, 12 Mar 2020, 19:30 James Heilman, wrote:
> I have been asking WHO to release COVID19 content (specially videos) under
> open licenses since since Feb 2020.
>
> I have spoke with Aleksandra Kuzmanovic who has been involved in their
> collaboration with Facebook and Twitter etc.
>
> They say maybe. But despite a bunch of follow up emails have not seemed too
> keen. It is really a lost opportunity for both of us :-(
>
> James
>
> On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 9:47 AM Alessandro Marchetti via Wikimedia-l <
> wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org> wrote:
>
> > Some of us sent an email when it was (only apparently) less serious but
> > we got no reply, as far as I know. It was sent by the UG of Washington DC
> > and I contacted WMCH doing that, because they might reach their central
> > office quickly in Geneva if necessary.
> > Changing some licenses was one of the things I hoped to discuss, but in
> > general we knew it was already serious and we were trying to gain some
> time.
> >
> > In the end, WHO changed their attitude only after the last week-end,
> > probably because people started finally to be worried in the USA, but the
> > pandemia should have been declared weeks ago or at least last week, IMHO,
> > when also the data of another "not small" country, that is Spain, started
> > to be quite out of control (if Italy was already not enough after China,
> > Iran and South Korea).
> >
> > They seem to have taken more slowly than necessary. Let's hope they
> > finally reach out.
> >
> > Regards.
> > Alessandro
> >
> > Il giovedì 12 marzo 2020, 16:29:34 CET, Andy Mabbett <
> > a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk> ha scritto:
> >
> > WHO have a great video on COVID-19 ("Coronavius"):
> >
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1APwq1df6Mw
> >
> > Now would be a good time for the WMF, local chapters, other
> > affiliates, and individual, to publicly call on them to open licence
> > such material, as I have done, here:
> >
> > https://twitter.com/pigsonthewing/status/1238124060145483777
> >
> > [much of their published material is under NC restrictions -
> > https://www.who.int/publishing/copyright/en/ ]
> >
> > --
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> > @pigsonthewing
> > http://pigsonthewing.org.uk
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] World Health Organization licences & COVID-19
Not to mention a lost opportunity for the world.
On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 1:30 PM James Heilman wrote:
> I have been asking WHO to release COVID19 content (specially videos) under
> open licenses since since Feb 2020.
>
> I have spoke with Aleksandra Kuzmanovic who has been involved in their
> collaboration with Facebook and Twitter etc.
>
> They say maybe. But despite a bunch of follow up emails have not seemed too
> keen. It is really a lost opportunity for both of us :-(
>
> James
>
> On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 9:47 AM Alessandro Marchetti via Wikimedia-l <
> wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org> wrote:
>
> > Some of us sent an email when it was (only apparently) less serious but
> > we got no reply, as far as I know. It was sent by the UG of Washington DC
> > and I contacted WMCH doing that, because they might reach their central
> > office quickly in Geneva if necessary.
> > Changing some licenses was one of the things I hoped to discuss, but in
> > general we knew it was already serious and we were trying to gain some
> time.
> >
> > In the end, WHO changed their attitude only after the last week-end,
> > probably because people started finally to be worried in the USA, but the
> > pandemia should have been declared weeks ago or at least last week, IMHO,
> > when also the data of another "not small" country, that is Spain, started
> > to be quite out of control (if Italy was already not enough after China,
> > Iran and South Korea).
> >
> > They seem to have taken more slowly than necessary. Let's hope they
> > finally reach out.
> >
> > Regards.
> > Alessandro
> >
> > Il giovedì 12 marzo 2020, 16:29:34 CET, Andy Mabbett <
> > a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk> ha scritto:
> >
> > WHO have a great video on COVID-19 ("Coronavius"):
> >
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1APwq1df6Mw
> >
> > Now would be a good time for the WMF, local chapters, other
> > affiliates, and individual, to publicly call on them to open licence
> > such material, as I have done, here:
> >
> > https://twitter.com/pigsonthewing/status/1238124060145483777
> >
> > [much of their published material is under NC restrictions -
> > https://www.who.int/publishing/copyright/en/ ]
> >
> > --
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> > @pigsonthewing
> > http://pigsonthewing.org.uk
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] World Health Organization licences & COVID-19
Besides CC for content, I was guidelines to get some guideline for communication. That is something agencies can do. In general we are here posting or twitting or creating article or advocating for media files to be uploaded, or sharing public data on social media when they are under acceptable licenses... some communities think about informative sitenotices, I even saw Wikipedia logos with masks suggested for the situation. I am collecting these situations while I discover them and I wonder, is it possible to discuss them with WHO and now if they are good or bad, just get a third-party feedback? We are often improvising in good faith. Otherwise, we will simply ask at the national level, I guess. It's not that I cannot for example ask an Italian doctor for, let's say, a useful image right now, I just would like to avoid doing that because they have more important battles to fight. A.M. Il giovedì 12 marzo 2020, 20:56:02 CET, Jorge Vargas ha scritto: Hi all, Jorge Vargas, WMF's Sr. Manager for Regional Partnerships here. Wanted to quickly chime in to mention that as several folks on this list know, WMF has been more proactive in the past year or so to build bridges with UN agencies to see how they can better support our movement and have a more coordinated/holistic approach, in addition, and in collaboration with all the amazing local and regional efforts already taking place and being led by affiliates worldwide. One immediate result (and thanks to work supported by John Cummings and Wikimedia Argentina) we have been working closely with UN Human Rights [1] to support ongoing and future efforts to distribute and create content related to human rights (#WikiForHumanRights, with more info on this post [2] and meta [3]), and now their support to gender-related initiatives like the WIkiGapChallenge [4]). All of this to say that part of that agreement was starting to navigate how to get more UN-copyrighted content on a free license (starting with content from UN Human Rights, but broadening the scope to other agencies). Part of this work has been understanding the complexity to navigate decision-making within the UN system for things like copyright ownership and licensing of content. From our understanding so far, even if a UN agency (like UN Human Rights or UNICEF) wants to free up content, a decision needs to happen from the UN Publications Office in NY (an exception to this are decentralized agencies, like UNESCO, who can make that call themselves). We have been lobbying with UN Publications Office to better understand where they stand, but as mentioned, when they do use a free license, they include an NC clause by default. I want to take this opportunity to rally ongoing efforts, approaches, etc being done by folks reading this. Ping me here or off-thread if you'd like to share more of what you've done so far (I'll follow up with you James! Thanks for already taking the lead in contacting WHO before). Ideally, mapping what stakeholders are on the table right now and what past conversations have happened will help us make progress in getting traction as we and the movement at large continue the conversation. Feel free to reach out anytime if you have any comments or questions. Thanks!Jorge [1] https://wikimediafoundation.org/news/2019/08/16/wikimedia-and-un-human-rights-partner-to-expand-wikipedias-knowledge/[2] https://wikimediafoundation.org/news/2019/12/10/wikimedia-foundation-and-un-human-rights-launch-wikiforhumanrights-campaign/[3] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiForHumanRights[4] https://standup4humanrights.org/en/2020/highlights_04.html On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 11:44 AM Alessandro Marchetti via Wikimedia-l wrote: Well, we did our share. For both medical and social aspects, we were there. I was hoping at least to get some guidelines for our affiliates' social media... Alessandro Il giovedì 12 marzo 2020, 19:35:56 CET, Damon Sicore ha scritto: Not to mention a lost opportunity for the world. On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 1:30 PM James Heilman wrote: I have been asking WHO to release COVID19 content (specially videos) under open licenses since since Feb 2020. I have spoke with Aleksandra Kuzmanovic who has been involved in their collaboration with Facebook and Twitter etc. They say maybe. But despite a bunch of follow up emails have not seemed too keen. It is really a lost opportunity for both of us :-( James On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 9:47 AM Alessandro Marchetti via Wikimedia-l < wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org> wrote: > Some of us sent an email when it was (only apparently) less serious but > we got no reply, as far as I know. It was sent by the UG of Washington DC > and I contacted WMCH doing that, because they might reach their central > office quickly in Geneva if necessary. > Changing some licenses was one of the things I hoped to discuss, but in > general we knew it was already serious and we were trying to
Re: [Wikimedia-l] World Health Organization licences & COVID-19
Hi all,
Jorge Vargas, WMF's Sr. Manager for Regional Partnerships here. Wanted to
quickly chime in to mention that as several folks on this list know, WMF
has been more proactive in the past year or so to build bridges with UN
agencies to see how they can better support our movement and have a more
coordinated/holistic approach, in addition, and in collaboration with all
the amazing local and regional efforts already taking place and being led
by affiliates worldwide.
One immediate result (and thanks to work supported by John Cummings and
Wikimedia Argentina) we have been working closely with UN Human Rights [1]
to support ongoing and future efforts to distribute and create content
related to human rights (#WikiForHumanRights, with more info on this post
[2] and meta [3]), and now their support to gender-related initiatives like
the WIkiGapChallenge [4]). All of this to say that part of that agreement
was starting to navigate how to get more UN-copyrighted content on a free
license (starting with content from UN Human Rights, but broadening the
scope to other agencies).
Part of this work has been understanding the complexity to navigate
decision-making within the UN system for things like copyright ownership
and licensing of content. From our understanding so far, even if a UN
agency (like UN Human Rights or UNICEF) wants to free up content, a
decision needs to happen from the UN Publications Office in NY (an
exception to this are decentralized agencies, like UNESCO, who can make
that call themselves). We have been lobbying with UN Publications Office to
better understand where they stand, but as mentioned, when they do use a
free license, they include an NC clause by default.
I want to take this opportunity to rally ongoing efforts, approaches, etc
being done by folks reading this. Ping me here or off-thread if you'd like
to share more of what you've done so far (I'll follow up with you James!
Thanks for already taking the lead in contacting WHO before). Ideally,
mapping what stakeholders are on the table right now and what past
conversations have happened will help us make progress in getting traction
as we and the movement at large continue the conversation.
Feel free to reach out anytime if you have any comments or questions.
Thanks!
Jorge
[1]
https://wikimediafoundation.org/news/2019/08/16/wikimedia-and-un-human-rights-partner-to-expand-wikipedias-knowledge/
[2]
https://wikimediafoundation.org/news/2019/12/10/wikimedia-foundation-and-un-human-rights-launch-wikiforhumanrights-campaign/
[3] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiForHumanRights
[4] https://standup4humanrights.org/en/2020/highlights_04.html
On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 11:44 AM Alessandro Marchetti via Wikimedia-l <
wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org> wrote:
> Well, we did our share. For both medical and social aspects, we were
> there.
>
> I was hoping at least to get some guidelines for our affiliates' social
> media...
>
> Alessandro
> Il giovedì 12 marzo 2020, 19:35:56 CET, Damon Sicore
> ha scritto:
>
> Not to mention a lost opportunity for the world.
> On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 1:30 PM James Heilman wrote:
>
> I have been asking WHO to release COVID19 content (specially videos) under
> open licenses since since Feb 2020.
>
> I have spoke with Aleksandra Kuzmanovic who has been involved in their
> collaboration with Facebook and Twitter etc.
>
> They say maybe. But despite a bunch of follow up emails have not seemed too
> keen. It is really a lost opportunity for both of us :-(
>
> James
>
> On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 9:47 AM Alessandro Marchetti via Wikimedia-l <
> wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org> wrote:
>
> > Some of us sent an email when it was (only apparently) less serious but
> > we got no reply, as far as I know. It was sent by the UG of Washington DC
> > and I contacted WMCH doing that, because they might reach their central
> > office quickly in Geneva if necessary.
> > Changing some licenses was one of the things I hoped to discuss, but in
> > general we knew it was already serious and we were trying to gain some
> time.
> >
> > In the end, WHO changed their attitude only after the last week-end,
> > probably because people started finally to be worried in the USA, but the
> > pandemia should have been declared weeks ago or at least last week, IMHO,
> > when also the data of another "not small" country, that is Spain, started
> > to be quite out of control (if Italy was already not enough after China,
> > Iran and South Korea).
> >
> > They seem to have taken more slowly than necessary. Let's hope they
> > finally reach out.
> >
> > Regards.
> > Alessandro
> >
> > Il giovedì 12 marzo 2020, 16:29:34 CET, Andy Mabbett <
> > a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk> ha scritto:
> >
> > WHO have a great video on COVID-19 ("Coronavius"):
> >
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1APwq1df6Mw
> >
> > Now would be a good time for the WMF, local chapters, other
> > affiliates, and individual, to publicly call on them to open licence
> >
Re: [Wikimedia-l] World Health Organization licences & COVID-19
Well, we did our share. For both medical and social aspects, we were there.
I was hoping at least to get some guidelines for our affiliates' social media...
Alessandro
Il giovedì 12 marzo 2020, 19:35:56 CET, Damon Sicore ha
scritto:
Not to mention a lost opportunity for the world.
On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 1:30 PM James Heilman wrote:
I have been asking WHO to release COVID19 content (specially videos) under
open licenses since since Feb 2020.
I have spoke with Aleksandra Kuzmanovic who has been involved in their
collaboration with Facebook and Twitter etc.
They say maybe. But despite a bunch of follow up emails have not seemed too
keen. It is really a lost opportunity for both of us :-(
James
On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 9:47 AM Alessandro Marchetti via Wikimedia-l <
wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org> wrote:
> Some of us sent an email when it was (only apparently) less serious but
> we got no reply, as far as I know. It was sent by the UG of Washington DC
> and I contacted WMCH doing that, because they might reach their central
> office quickly in Geneva if necessary.
> Changing some licenses was one of the things I hoped to discuss, but in
> general we knew it was already serious and we were trying to gain some time.
>
> In the end, WHO changed their attitude only after the last week-end,
> probably because people started finally to be worried in the USA, but the
> pandemia should have been declared weeks ago or at least last week, IMHO,
> when also the data of another "not small" country, that is Spain, started
> to be quite out of control (if Italy was already not enough after China,
> Iran and South Korea).
>
> They seem to have taken more slowly than necessary. Let's hope they
> finally reach out.
>
> Regards.
> Alessandro
>
> Il giovedì 12 marzo 2020, 16:29:34 CET, Andy Mabbett <
> a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk> ha scritto:
>
> WHO have a great video on COVID-19 ("Coronavius"):
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1APwq1df6Mw
>
> Now would be a good time for the WMF, local chapters, other
> affiliates, and individual, to publicly call on them to open licence
> such material, as I have done, here:
>
> https://twitter.com/pigsonthewing/status/1238124060145483777
>
> [much of their published material is under NC restrictions -
> https://www.who.int/publishing/copyright/en/ ]
>
> --
> Andy Mabbett
> @pigsonthewing
> http://pigsonthewing.org.uk
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] World Health Organization licences & COVID-19
I have been asking WHO to release COVID19 content (specially videos) under
open licenses since since Feb 2020.
I have spoke with Aleksandra Kuzmanovic who has been involved in their
collaboration with Facebook and Twitter etc.
They say maybe. But despite a bunch of follow up emails have not seemed too
keen. It is really a lost opportunity for both of us :-(
James
On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 9:47 AM Alessandro Marchetti via Wikimedia-l <
wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org> wrote:
> Some of us sent an email when it was (only apparently) less serious but
> we got no reply, as far as I know. It was sent by the UG of Washington DC
> and I contacted WMCH doing that, because they might reach their central
> office quickly in Geneva if necessary.
> Changing some licenses was one of the things I hoped to discuss, but in
> general we knew it was already serious and we were trying to gain some time.
>
> In the end, WHO changed their attitude only after the last week-end,
> probably because people started finally to be worried in the USA, but the
> pandemia should have been declared weeks ago or at least last week, IMHO,
> when also the data of another "not small" country, that is Spain, started
> to be quite out of control (if Italy was already not enough after China,
> Iran and South Korea).
>
> They seem to have taken more slowly than necessary. Let's hope they
> finally reach out.
>
> Regards.
> Alessandro
>
> Il giovedì 12 marzo 2020, 16:29:34 CET, Andy Mabbett <
> a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk> ha scritto:
>
> WHO have a great video on COVID-19 ("Coronavius"):
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1APwq1df6Mw
>
> Now would be a good time for the WMF, local chapters, other
> affiliates, and individual, to publicly call on them to open licence
> such material, as I have done, here:
>
> https://twitter.com/pigsonthewing/status/1238124060145483777
>
> [much of their published material is under NC restrictions -
> https://www.who.int/publishing/copyright/en/ ]
>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] World Health Organization licences & COVID-19
Some of us sent an email when it was (only apparently) less serious but we got
no reply, as far as I know. It was sent by the UG of Washington DC and I
contacted WMCH doing that, because they might reach their central office
quickly in Geneva if necessary.
Changing some licenses was one of the things I hoped to discuss, but in general
we knew it was already serious and we were trying to gain some time.
In the end, WHO changed their attitude only after the last week-end, probably
because people started finally to be worried in the USA, but the pandemia
should have been declared weeks ago or at least last week, IMHO, when also the
data of another "not small" country, that is Spain, started to be quite out of
control (if Italy was already not enough after China, Iran and South Korea).
They seem to have taken more slowly than necessary. Let's hope they finally
reach out.
Regards.
Alessandro
Il giovedì 12 marzo 2020, 16:29:34 CET, Andy Mabbett
ha scritto:
WHO have a great video on COVID-19 ("Coronavius"):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1APwq1df6Mw
Now would be a good time for the WMF, local chapters, other
affiliates, and individual, to publicly call on them to open licence
such material, as I have done, here:
https://twitter.com/pigsonthewing/status/1238124060145483777
[much of their published material is under NC restrictions -
https://www.who.int/publishing/copyright/en/ ]
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[Wikimedia-l] World Health Organization licences & COVID-19
WHO have a great video on COVID-19 ("Coronavius"):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1APwq1df6Mw
Now would be a good time for the WMF, local chapters, other
affiliates, and individual, to publicly call on them to open licence
such material, as I have done, here:
https://twitter.com/pigsonthewing/status/1238124060145483777
[much of their published material is under NC restrictions -
https://www.who.int/publishing/copyright/en/ ]
--
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