Le 2013-04-19 00:09, Brion Vibber a écrit :
In many cases there's no need to manually copy-paste a URL on a
smartphone;
sharing is commonly built into the browser.
Android has an extensible framework for inter-app communications
which
allows Facebook, Twitter, and numerous other social
On 18 April 2013 13:46, Mathieu Stumpf psychosl...@culture-libre.org wrote:
I really don't understand what's the supposed barriers, you can save the
whole page to send it, copy/paste the whole page, send the direct URL. What
the use case where current possibilities would prevent one to share
On 19 April 2013 01:43, Matthew Roth mr...@wikimedia.org wrote:
First, note that most of the really popular social networking sites have
boilerplate language in the Terms of Service that are incompatible with
CC-BY-SA. See Michelle Paulson's legal analysis related to Facebook here:
Le 2013-04-19 10:46, Andy Mabbett a écrit :
On 19 April 2013 01:43, Matthew Roth mr...@wikimedia.org wrote:
You cannot post 3rd party CC-BY-SA licensed images to Facebook (and
likely
most other social networks) because you will be violating the
sublicensing
section of the CC license, and
On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 11:24 AM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:
On 19 April 2013 01:43, Matthew Roth mr...@wikimedia.org wrote:
First, note that most of the really popular social networking sites have
boilerplate language in the Terms of Service that are incompatible with
Worth a
Le 2013-04-18 04:28, billinghurst a écrit :
I am wondering why there is no tweet this page capability through
the
WMF sites? It is so widely available through the web, and here is a
range
of sites that would be a prime place to do it, and NADA, no capacity.
Even if we had it for something
On 18 April 2013 10:27, Mathieu Stumpf psychosl...@culture-libre.org wrote:
I didn't read the tweeter EULA, as I don't use it. Does it feet our general
policy[1]? If no, as one may easily expect, then you have a definitive
answer to your why not.
You could tweet from a button without WMF
[Speaking personally, not from WMUK]
I like the idea of sharing buttons, as long as they aren't too prominent.
Wikipedia was a social medium before the term was really in widespread use.
I think it also shows that our audience is important. Aren't we ultimately
about sharing?
Stevie
On 18
Le 2013-04-18 05:00, James Alexander a écrit :
I tend to think that they can be incredibly useful and reader
friendly. I've always found it a bit disappointing we don't have it
as
they are probably the bigger reader request I've ever seen.
Please provide metrics and numbers. You know how our
Le 2013-04-18 05:05, Sarah Stierch a écrit :
But, I'm also a regular Twitter user and I see boosts in viewership
for
anything I post on my Twitter and Facebook. So sick of anti-social
media
Wikipedia. People love to deny we are a social network, when most of
us
involved in the community know
On Thursday, 18 April 2013 at 04:05, Sarah Stierch wrote:
On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 8:00 PM, James Alexander
jalexan...@wikimedia.org (mailto:jalexan...@wikimedia.org)wrote:
I tend to think that they can be incredibly useful and reader friendly.
I've always found it a bit disappointing we
Le 2013-04-18 11:37, David Gerard a écrit :
On 18 April 2013 10:27, Mathieu Stumpf
psychosl...@culture-libre.org wrote:
I didn't read the tweeter EULA, as I don't use it. Does it feet our
general
policy[1]? If no, as one may easily expect, then you have a
definitive
answer to your why not.
If you mean publish something on tweeter while browsing a WMF project, I
can't see the point. I'm sure most users know they can have more than one
tab/window at a time.
Weren't you asking for evidence to back up similar assertions a minute ago?
:D
Those said, I don't use Twitter in the
On 18 April 2013 13:04, Mathieu Stumpf psychosl...@culture-libre.org wrote:
To my mind, it's not just about sharing, it's about sharing knowledge in a
form which is as neutral as we can achieve to produce. If you stop to
sharing, then you may just as well let free to share advertisments
[Speaking personally, not from WMUK]
Not sure how advertisements came in to the discussion, it's totally
different. If we agree we want to share the sum total of all human
knowledge, then it makes sense that we make it as easy to share that
knowledge as possible. Having small, discreet buttons
Le 2013-04-18 12:54, Thomas Morton a écrit :
If you mean publish something on tweeter while browsing a WMF
project, I
can't see the point. I'm sure most users know they can have more
than one
tab/window at a time.
Weren't you asking for evidence to back up similar assertions a
minute ago?
Le 2013-04-18 13:11, David Gerard a écrit :
On 18 April 2013 11:51, Mathieu Stumpf
psychosl...@culture-libre.org wrote:
Those said, I don't use Twitter in the first place, so I really have
no idea
what kind of gap you would like to fill with your feature.
Your entire objection appears to
Le 2013-04-18 14:11, Stevie Benton a écrit :
[Speaking personally, not from WMUK]
Not sure how advertisements came in to the discussion, it's totally
different. If we agree we want to share the sum total of all human
knowledge, then it makes sense that we make it as easy to share that
knowledge
On Thursday, April 18, 2013, Mathieu Stumpf wrote:
My objection would be more something like I'm afraid that this kind of
actions could threaten some general policies of the Wikimedia movement,
policies that promote human values that I share.
Which policies would those be?
--
On Thu, 18 Apr 2013 12:28:54 +1000, billinghurst billinghu...@gmail.com
wrote:
I am wondering why there is no tweet this page capability through the
WMF sites? It is so widely available through the web, and here is a
range
of sites that would be a prime place to do it, and NADA, no capacity.
On 18 April 2013 13:49, Thehelpfulone thehelpfulonew...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thursday, April 18, 2013, Mathieu Stumpf wrote:
My objection would be more something like I'm afraid that this kind of
actions could threaten some general policies of the Wikimedia movement,
policies that promote
Or, you could click a button.
Why is making something easy a problem?
And more to the point; a very large number of people would become confused
with the processes you're describing. You are somewhere in the top 0.1% of
technically literate persons!! So judging what is possible or not based on
I really don't understand what's the supposed barriers, you can save the
whole page to send it, copy/paste the whole page, send the direct URL. What
the use case where current possibilities would prevent one to share this
knowledge?
By barriers, I mean anything that may dissuade users from taking
On 18/04/2013 13:51, David Gerard wrote:
So far, it's apparently a gateway to advertising.
Mathieu, I'm not a huge advocate of Twitter buttons, and I think the
neutrality objection (do we favour a few services, or have 2000
buttons?) is a serious problem. But your arguments so far have been
Le 2013-04-18 14:42, Thomas Morton a écrit :
Those said, I don't use Twitter in the first place, so I really
have no
idea what kind of gap you would like to fill with your feature.
*rolls eyes*
Sorry, I don't mean to be snippy but this discussion always
frustrates me.
It's the sort of
On 18 April 2013 14:39, Mathieu Stumpf psychosl...@culture-libre.orgwrote:
Le 2013-04-18 14:42, Thomas Morton a écrit :
Those said, I don't use Twitter in the first place, so I really have no
idea what kind of gap you would like to fill with your feature.
*rolls eyes*
Sorry, I don't
Le 2013-04-18 14:51, David Gerard a écrit :
On 18 April 2013 13:49, Thehelpfulone thehelpfulonew...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Thursday, April 18, 2013, Mathieu Stumpf wrote:
My objection would be more something like I'm afraid that this
kind of
actions could threaten some general policies of the
Le 2013-04-18 14:52, Thomas Morton a écrit :
Or, you could click a button.
Why is making something easy a problem?
Because easiness is not our **only** concern. Making things easier is
great, losing neutrality for the sake of convenience and ease-of-use, to
my mind it is not a good trade.
Le 2013-04-18 14:56, Katie Chan a écrit :
On 18/04/2013 13:51, David Gerard wrote:
So far, it's apparently a gateway to advertising.
Mathieu, I'm not a huge advocate of Twitter buttons, and I think the
neutrality objection (do we favour a few services, or have 2000
buttons?) is a serious
On 04/18/2013 04:28 AM, billinghurst wrote:
I am wondering why there is no tweet this page capability through the
WMF sites? It is so widely available through the web, and here is a range
of sites that would be a prime place to do it, and NADA, no capacity.
Since we have this discussion every
Something like this buttons?
http://br.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Brasil_nas_escolas
On 18 April 2013 12:07, Mathieu Stumpf psychosl...@culture-libre.orgwrote:
Le 2013-04-18 14:56, Katie Chan a écrit :
On 18/04/2013 13:51, David Gerard wrote:
So far, it's apparently a gateway to
On 18 April 2013 15:54, Mathieu Stumpf psychosl...@culture-libre.org wrote:
Le 2013-04-18 14:52, Thomas Morton a écrit :
Or, you could click a button.
Why is making something easy a problem?
Because easiness is not our **only** concern.
It is, however, an extremely important one. It only
Le 2013-04-18 17:25, David Gerard a écrit :
On 18 April 2013 15:54, Mathieu Stumpf
psychosl...@culture-libre.org wrote:
Le 2013-04-18 14:52, Thomas Morton a écrit :
Or, you could click a button.
Why is making something easy a problem?
Because easiness is not our **only** concern.
It
David Gerard wrote:
(Someone noted on wikien-l that the Oh Shit moment in the editor
graph coincides pretty well with the decision to lock down article
creation on en:wp. Tiny inconveniences.)
It's been more than seven years since article creation was disabled for
anonymous editors on the
Le jeudi 18 avril 2013 à 16:55 +0100, David Gerard a écrit :
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2012-01-02/Interview
Thank you, I will read it tomorow.
However, consider the mobile interface. Copy-and-pasting a URL is
considerably more difficult there. How would you
, April 18, 2013 6:31 PM
To: Wikimedia Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Tweet this page from some or all sites???
in the past i would have liked this feature on commons.
l
after i uploaded new images to commons i would have likely used a feature
to share this on other networks.
like I just
On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 3:09 PM, Brion Vibber bvib...@wikimedia.org wrote:
Note that desktop browsers are in some cases gaining similar capabilities;
for instance Apple's Safari in latest versions includes a Share button
similar to iOS's, with access to a couple hardcoded services. Nearly
On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 3:05 AM, Mathieu Stumpf
psychosl...@culture-libre.org wrote:
Le 2013-04-18 05:00, James Alexander a écrit :
I tend to think that they can be incredibly useful and reader
friendly. I've always found it a bit disappointing we don't have it as
they are probably the
Discussion about this has occurred on en.wiki at least multiple times,
info can be found here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Perennial_proposals#Share_pages_on_Facebook.2C_Twitter_etc.
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On blog.wikimedia.org, some social media sharing buttons will be
implemented (in a privacy-friendly way) as part of the upcoming
redesign.
On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 7:28 PM, billinghurst billinghu...@gmail.com wrote:
I am wondering why there is no tweet this page capability through the
WMF sites?
I tend to think that they can be incredibly useful and reader friendly. I've
always found it a bit disappointing we don't have it as they are probably the
bigger reader request I've ever seen. That said I know that enWiki has had
multiple discussions about it ending in failure. The issues
On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 8:00 PM, James Alexander
jalexan...@wikimedia.orgwrote:
I tend to think that they can be incredibly useful and reader friendly.
I've always found it a bit disappointing we don't have it as they are
probably the bigger reader request I've ever seen. That said I know that
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