I have posted 4 sentences, kind of a draft of a draft of a draft.
It is very overwhelming for me to draft text with near-legal precision on
my own.
-- とある白い猫 (To Aru Shiroi Neko)
On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 11:53 PM, Asaf Bartov abar...@wikimedia.org wrote:
I'd say be bold and start drafting.
After running a task force for BLP in two phases over six months back in
'09-'10, everything pointed toward something MZMcBride wrote on meta. It
covers this.
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/BLP
https://strategy.wikimedia.org/wiki/Task_force/Living_People/Drafting_pages/Living_People_Policy
It
I have posted 4 sentences, kind of a draft of a draft of a draft.
It is very overwhelming for me to draft text with near-legal precision on
my own.
-- ã¨ããç½ãç« (To Aru Shiroi Neko)
I've added a bit. I'll do some copyediting later.
Fred
On Sat, 5 Oct 2013, at 18:47, Fred Bauder wrote:
I've been thinking about this. Wikipedia is a compilation of information
from sources that are generally considered reliable. The trouble is that
the information in those sources varies. Rather than deciding ourselves,
after all most of us are
On Sat, 5 Oct 2013, at 18:47, Fred Bauder wrote:
I've been thinking about this. Wikipedia is a compilation of
information
from sources that are generally considered reliable. The trouble is
that
the information in those sources varies. Rather than deciding
ourselves,
after all most of us
I've been thinking about this. Wikipedia is a compilation of information
from sources that are generally considered reliable. The trouble is that
the information in those sources varies. Rather than deciding ourselves,
after all most of us are amateurs, what the truth is, we present all the
views
Indeed larger wikis have vibrant local communities that uphold NPOV for the
most part. Such wikis would not be affected by such a board resolution too
much as they essentially upload NPOV anyways.
Smaller developing wikis on the other hand sometimes have people who even
want to create policies
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Legal_and_Community_Advocacy#Draft_of_text_for_a_binding_Neutral_Point_of_View_WMF_policy
I started above text to draft a text for the board to review.
-- とある白い猫 (To Aru Shiroi Neko)
On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 5:56 PM, とある白い猫
I'd say be bold and start drafting. Many people respond to a flawed (or
at least improvable) text more readily than they do to an open invitation
to contribute.
I, for one, share your perception that NPOV is a problem on some (perhaps
most) Wikipedias, and think it'd be a good idea to bolster
On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 11:53 PM, Asaf Bartov abar...@wikimedia.org wrote:
...
I, for one, share your perception that NPOV is a problem on some (perhaps
most) Wikipedias,
asaf, could you please elaborate a little bit what you mean by this?
do you not share the experience that the editors were
On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 11:53 PM, Asaf Bartov abar...@wikimedia.org
wrote:
...
I, for one, share your perception that NPOV is a problem on some
(perhaps
most) Wikipedias,
asaf, could you please elaborate a little bit what you mean by this?
do you not share the experience that the editors
Asaf Bartov wrote:
I'd say be bold and start drafting. Many people respond to a flawed (or
at least improvable) text more readily than they do to an open invitation
to contribute.
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Cunningham%27s_Law :-)
(There are occasionally suggestions of intentionally setting
For data oriented projects such as Wikidata, Wikisource, Commons I think
NPOV still applies as we shouldn't censor data just because our POV has
issues with it.
Consider this in the context of
- Mohammed image controversy for Commons (how they aren't deleted)
- Bible versions for
I am not disputing how settled it is but I don't think meta sufficiently
achieves expressing how settled this core value really is. As you stated
it
would be more of a restatement and re-emphasis of what already is a core
value.
-- ã¨ããç½ãç« (To Aru Shiroi Neko)
Yes, good idea,
Hi all,
I realize Resolution:Biographies of living people[1] implies this but I
fail to see any resolution that establishes neutral point of view as one
of
our non-negotiable values. I think there is merit in having an
over-arching
resolution on a Neutral Point of View policy.
I also
On 16 September 2013 21:45, とある白い猫 to.aru.shiroi.n...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi all,
I realize Resolution:Biographies of living people[1] implies this but I
fail to see any resolution that establishes neutral point of view as one of
our non-negotiable values. I think there is merit in having an
Wikivoyage uses https://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Wikivoyage:Be_fair, which isn't
exactly the same thing.
Thanks,
Rschen7754
rschen7754.w...@gmail.com
On Sep 16, 2013, at 7:33 PM, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote:
On 16 September 2013 21:45, とある白い猫 to.aru.shiroi.n...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi
On 9/16/2013 7:33 PM, Risker wrote:
I am not certain that neutral point of view applies to all Wikimedia
projects. Wikiversity programs may deliberately examine one aspect of a
subject while ignoring others, for example. It is difficult to apply the
concept of neutrality to images and other
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