Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Publicpolicy] news events impacting the Foundation's ability to hire and its employees' ability to travel

2017-01-31 Thread Benjamin Lees
On Tue, Jan 31, 2017 at 5:00 AM, Rogol Domedonfors wrote: > I think this is a very interesting point. Why is the WMF so dependent on > being able to hire staff in one location? A quick scan of the staff page shows more than 60 "international" employees. (A fair number of

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Publicpolicy] news events impacting the Foundation's ability to hire and its employees' ability to travel

2017-01-31 Thread Fæ
There is no reason for the servers hosting data to be located in the same country as the majority of WMF employees. If London is the most attractive place to work, and Canada is legally the most sensible place for data to be centralized, then there is nothing forcing the WMF to have its

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Publicpolicy] news events impacting the Foundation's ability to hire and its employees' ability to travel

2017-01-31 Thread Natacha Rault
I dont think "Europe" and european countries cant be thrown in one potatoe bag. When I read this "Some of the most brilliant and creative people in the world live and work in Silicon Valley." it reminds me, as I am French living in Geneva of the attitude of so called "developed" countries

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Publicpolicy] news events impacting the Foundation's ability to hire and its employees' ability to travel

2017-01-31 Thread Todd Allen
I think that's an interesting thought in general, but what used to be true still is today. Europe in general, and the UK in particular, has significantly weaker free speech guarantees than the US does. This manifests in quite a few ways, from "hate speech" to "right to be forgotten" to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Publicpolicy] news events impacting the Foundation's ability to hire and its employees' ability to travel

2017-01-31 Thread Rogol Domedonfors
James I think this is a very interesting point. Why is the WMF so dependent on being able to hire staff in one location? I seem to recall suggesting some time ago that they should diversify their location globally in the inerests of innovation and efficiency. It would have done them good to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Publicpolicy] news events impacting the Foundation's ability to hire and its employees' ability to travel

2017-01-31 Thread Todd Allen
The issue is not just in the current post, but that this is, I believe, the third or so time that the same person has brought up the subject in as many days. Bringing a subject up once is one thing. Bringing it up repeatedly is inherently discourteous because it clogs the mailing list.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Publicpolicy] news events impacting the Foundation's ability to hire and its employees' ability to travel

2017-01-30 Thread Natacha Rault
I don't feel personnally that this post is not courteous. I see it as a proposition and a question echoing world wide concern on the matter (I am based in Switzerland), although I do understand that a answer from the WMF is delicate. Kind regards, Natacha Le 31 janv. 2017 à 00:51, Nathan

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Publicpolicy] news events impacting the Foundation's ability to hire and its employees' ability to travel

2017-01-30 Thread Nathan
It might be more effective, and certainly more courteous, if you could avoid making essentially the same set of advocacy posts almost every day. On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 6:38 PM, James Salsman wrote: > I propose that the Foundation issue a statement in support of striking >