Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Securing access to Wikimedia sites with HTTPS

2015-06-15 Thread Yana Welinder
Hi Austin, Thanks for letting me know. I use PGP, but there's something wrong with my key right now. I'll look into it and get back to you. Thanks, Yana On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 11:22 PM, Austin Hair adh...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 8:56 PM, Yana Welinder y...@wikimedia.org

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Securing access to Wikimedia sites with HTTPS

2015-06-15 Thread Austin Hair
On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 8:56 PM, Yana Welinder y...@wikimedia.org wrote: I should also mention that while we try to be as transparent as possible in all our work (including holding community consultations around all major legal policies and providing frequent updates on our work), there are

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Securing access to Wikimedia sites with HTTPS

2015-06-14 Thread Tanweer Morshed
But won't the people in Iran or China would be able to access the Wikimedia sites through http instead of https? And what about accessing through https within Wikipedia Zero? Is cost-free access available through https? On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 12:54 PM, geni geni...@gmail.com wrote: On 14 June

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Securing access to Wikimedia sites with HTTPS

2015-06-14 Thread Josh Lim
Uh, I’m from a Third World country, and while I know the Internet here in the Philippines is shitty, I don’t think the WMF can be blamed for that. I’ve been using HTTPS for quite a while now and for the most part, it works normally. Let’s try to avoid overly generalizing the developing world

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Securing access to Wikimedia sites with HTTPS

2015-06-14 Thread geni
On 14 June 2015 at 05:21, Comet styles cometsty...@gmail.com wrote: China and Iran blocks https (and WMF thinks https is more secure than http when it can be EASILY blocked lol) China is currently blocking HTTP and has done so quite frequently. The ability to block is largely unrelated to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Securing access to Wikimedia sites with HTTPS

2015-06-14 Thread Yana Welinder
Hi all, Our understanding is that there is currently no country where only HTTPS access to Wikipedia is blocked. In Iran https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship_of_Wikipedia#Iran, the government appears to have been blocking select Wikipedia articles at different times.[1] The Great Firewall of

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Securing access to Wikimedia sites with HTTPS

2015-06-13 Thread Comet styles
China and Iran blocks https (and WMF thinks https is more secure than http when it can be EASILY blocked lol) so people in these countries used wikipedia on http, so some here think that these countries are spying on them by forcing them to use http, but that https block in this countries was NOT

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Securing access to Wikimedia sites with HTTPS

2015-06-13 Thread geni
On 12 June 2015 at 22:08, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: Excellent news! So how are we dealing with the Iran and China issue? Well the introduction appears to have been timed for one of those periods where we are completely blocked in china anyway. -- geni

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Securing access to Wikimedia sites with HTTPS

2015-06-13 Thread Lodewijk
Hi Juliet, Your blog post states this change could affect access for some Wikimedia traffic in certain parts of the world - which makes some alarm bells go off. Could you clarify in what kind of cases it would 'affect' and in what way? It's quite different whether a few dozen people have to wait

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Securing access to Wikimedia sites with HTTPS

2015-06-13 Thread Vira Motorko
Have I understood it correctly, that Wikipedia Zero traffic is free only while through http, and not https? -- *--* *Vira Motorko* PR manager, Wikimedia Ukraine https://ua.wikimedia.org/ +380667740499 Are you saving your documents in free formats? ;) Help save natural resources – please think

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Securing access to Wikimedia sites with HTTPS

2015-06-12 Thread Habib M'henni
This is really fantastic. Thanks, Habib Le 12 juin 2015 21:22:26 CET, Juliet Barbara jbarb...@wikimedia.org a écrit : The Wikimedia Foundation is pleased to announce that we have begun the transition of the Wikimedia projects and sites to the secure HTTPS protocol. You may have seen our blog

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Securing access to Wikimedia sites with HTTPS

2015-06-12 Thread John
Comets, I can answer that. From the dev who switched HTTPS on during prime usage times, complained about working 60+ hours this week, then left for the day. I get the impression that the WMF doesn't give a shit about those users who choose to opt-out of HTTPS for one reason or another. It's

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Securing access to Wikimedia sites with HTTPS

2015-06-12 Thread John
This reminds me of the VE rollout debacle On Friday, June 12, 2015, John phoenixoverr...@gmail.com wrote: Comets, I can answer that. From the dev who switched HTTPS on during prime usage times, complained about working 60+ hours this week, then left for the day. I get the impression that

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Securing access to Wikimedia sites with HTTPS

2015-06-12 Thread Tito Dutta
Great job. :) Thanks for informing [PS. to members, you may read the WP:VPT https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_%28technical%29#HTTPS_by_default discussion too] On 13 June 2015 at 03:05, Habib M'henni habib.mhe...@gmail.com wrote: This is really fantastic. Thanks, Habib

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Securing access to Wikimedia sites with HTTPS

2015-06-12 Thread Comet styles
Congrats, you just made internet shitty for all 3rd world countries and did you people even bother to find out how it will affect users in China or Iran where HTTPS is BANNED?. On 6/13/15, Tito Dutta trulyt...@gmail.com wrote: Great job. :) Thanks for informing [PS. to members, you may read

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Securing access to Wikimedia sites with HTTPS

2015-06-12 Thread David Gerard
On 12 June 2015 at 21:22, Juliet Barbara jbarb...@wikimedia.org wrote: The Wikimedia Foundation is pleased to announce that we have begun the transition of the Wikimedia projects and sites to the secure HTTPS protocol. You may have seen our blog post from this morning; it has also been posted