Re: [Wikimedia-l] Looking back at the London Conference

2013-02-21 Thread Ilario Valdelli
I support the email of Charles. I would invite you to take in consideration a more flexible model and to give the role of the chair or vice-chair to the chapters (may be rotating the functions) and not to a single person. Afterwards the chapter may decide who will be the person in charge,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Looking back at the London Conference

2013-02-21 Thread Manuel Schneider
The list already exists since several months but hasn't been used yet: https://intern.wikimedia.ch/lists/listinfo/wca-announce /Manuel Am 19.02.2013 21:09, schrieb Michael Peel: On 19 Feb 2013, at 19:57, Thehelpfulone thehelpfulonew...@gmail.com wrote: On 19 February 2013 16:10, Ziko van

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Looking back at the London Conference

2013-02-21 Thread Thehelpfulone
On 21 Feb 2013, at 13:01, Manuel Schneider manuel.schnei...@wikimedia.ch wrote: The list already exists since several months but hasn't been used yet: https://intern.wikimedia.ch/lists/listinfo/wca-announce /Manuel When I offered to create the list I considered that it would be better to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Looking back at the London Conference

2013-02-21 Thread Markus Glaser
Hi Charles, from the feedback we had about the WCA, IMHO we need to consider two different issues: * we are criticised for focussing on structures too much. In London, as you can see in the protocol [1], we discussed several options including the one about an executive board, but decided to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Looking back at the London Conference

2013-02-21 Thread Markus Glaser
Am 21.02.2013 15:57, schrieb Manuel Schneider: I think I have to agree that one announce list is enough. As we haven't started using the wca-announce yet I see no problem in agreeing that we use wikimedia-announce-l instead. /Manuel +1 We can use a [wca] tag in the subject line as you

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Looking back at the London Conference

2013-02-21 Thread Charles Andrès
HI Ziko, Could you give us more information about this action team?, and especially its composition because there is few information here http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Chapters_Association/Research , no more on the minute of your meeting in London, and I don't remind any public

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Looking back at the London Conference

2013-02-21 Thread Ziko van Dijk
Pacience. 2013/2/21 Charles Andrès charles.andres.w...@gmail.com: HI Ziko, Could you give us more information about this action team?, and especially its composition because there is few information here http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Chapters_Association/Research , no more on

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Looking back at the London Conference

2013-02-20 Thread Philippe Beaudette
From Ziko's note about this: There will be a special list 'WCA-announcements. If you want to be informed about Bulletins and discussions, join the list and you will get links to Meta Wiki. It's a one-way-list, because the discussions are supposed to be on Meta Wiki. This is a WCA service for

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Looking back at the London Conference

2013-02-20 Thread Charles Andrès
Hello, In fact this mailing list has already been created since a while, it's just not used for the moment. The question of the hosting hasn't been discuss in this way, for the WCA WMCH is offering the hosting of chapters mailing list, chapters wiki, and some chapter wiki. So it has just

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Looking back at the London Conference

2013-02-20 Thread Christophe Henner
Why do we need two announce mailing lists? Can't we all use wikimedia-announce ? Christophe -- Christophe On 20 February 2013 09:22, Charles Andrès charles.andres.w...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, In fact this mailing list has already been created since a while, it's just not used for the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Looking back at the London Conference

2013-02-20 Thread Fae
On 20 February 2013 08:59, Christophe Henner christophe.hen...@gmail.com wrote: Why do we need two announce mailing lists? Can't we all use wikimedia-announce ? I don't really care much about how it works, just that it does. Manuel Schneider took an action at the weekend to advise on points of

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Looking back at the London Conference

2013-02-19 Thread Michael Peel
On 19 Feb 2013, at 19:57, Thehelpfulone thehelpfulonew...@gmail.com wrote: On 19 February 2013 16:10, Ziko van Dijk vand...@wmnederland.nl wrote: There will be a special list 'WCA-announcements. If you want to be informed about Bulletins and discussions, join the list and you will get

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Looking back at the London Conference

2013-02-19 Thread Jan-Bart de Vreede
yeah, I was going to suggest the same thing, why make a different list with different membership? Jan-Bart (personally agreeing with mike's personal viewpoint… please don't take it personally) On Feb 19, 2013, at 9:09 PM, Michael Peel michael.p...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote: On 19 Feb 2013,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Looking back at the London Conference

2013-02-19 Thread Balázs Viczián
Hi, sorry, no offense meant, but all of you are keep saying the same things again and again. At least a dozen times I've read lines, like don't focus on this, focus on that or let me say WCA recruiting athough you dropped that idea about two weeks ago (really?) I'd like to help you with

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Looking back at the London Conference

2013-02-19 Thread James Alexander
On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 2:13 PM, Ziko van Dijk vand...@wmnederland.nlwrote: Hello, Just to keep in mind: it has been no secret, from the beginning, that the WCA planned to hire somebody. The WMF board is supported by employees too, and I guess that the WMF has a number of regulations. Enough

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Looking back at the London Conference

2013-02-19 Thread Fae
On 19 February 2013 23:47, James Alexander jameso...@gmail.com wrote: ... Groups should grow naturally, they should incorporate only when necessary and get staff only when necessary, trying to push them before they are ready only makes things worse. We have been having a long standing habit

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Looking back at the London Conference

2013-02-19 Thread Keegan Peterzell
On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 6:18 PM, Fae fae...@gmail.com wrote: On 19 February 2013 23:47, James Alexander jameso...@gmail.com wrote: ... Groups should grow naturally, they should incorporate only when necessary and get staff only when necessary, trying to push them before they are ready

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Looking back at the London Conference

2013-02-19 Thread Charles Andrès
Hello Ziko, Because you want to hear: 1)Their is no census within the chapter whether we still want a deputy chair position 2)if we keep a chair and a deputy chair, it has always been planned that this position should be open to vote at the next WCA meeting 3) 7 council member connote decide