Re: [Wikimedia-l] New language code for Western Armenian language

[Katherine Maher]

Indeed. This is truly a remarkable effort. Congratulations.

On Sat, Feb 3, 2018 at 6:00 PM Gerard Meijssen 
wrote:

> Hoi,
> If anything it is proof that a quality standard allows for change.
>
> In Michael Everson, a member of the standards world, we have someone who
> was asked to become a member of the Wikimedia language committee. Over the
> years he has provided us with several important services. This is only one.
>
> Once we had a really strong team of people who were at the forefront of
> language technology. There is no longer the same attention for  supporting
> languages and the scripts used by languages. What is done at this time by
> people like Santosh is done in their spare time. We could do more and we
> don't. We do not support the SignWriting font even though it will support
> all sign languages.
>
> Yes, congratulations are due to Michael, to ISO, to the people who took
> their time to champion the Western Armenian language and indeed, the result
> is wonderful.
> Thanks,
>   GerardM
>
> On 1 February 2018 at 18:23, Alphos OGame  wrote:
>
> > That's fantastic !
> >
> > Proof, if it was ever needed, that the Wikimedia movement can have an
> > effect on the "outside world" other than collecting and providing
> > information ; Wikimedia Armenia actually took the leading part in
> bettering
> > an international standard !
> >
> > My most heartfelt congratulations :-)
> >
> > Alphos
> >
> >
> > > Le 1 févr. 2018 à 00:00, Delphine Ménard  a
> > écrit :
> > >
> > > Congratulations to Wikimedia Armenia for those truly great efforts!
> > >
> > > best,
> > >
> > > Delphine
> > >
> > > 2018-01-31 11:39 GMT+01:00 David Saroyan :
> > >
> > >> Dear all,
> > >>
> > >> I'm pleased to announce that the efforts of Wikimedia Armenia to get
> > >> separate ISO 639-3 language code for Western Armenian [1] were finally
> > >> succeeded. SIL International, the ISO 639-3 Registration Authority,
> > decided
> > >> to create the code element [hyw] for Western Armenian. [2]
> > >>
> > >> We initiated this process three years ago when we started the
> > collaboration
> > >> with the Calouste Gulbenkian Foundation [3] in order to foster and
> > improve
> > >> free content in Western Armenian. This resulted in "Western Armenian
> > >> project" where Wikimedia Armenia through different events and
> activities
> > >> started to disseminate and support the creation of Western Armenian
> > content
> > >> with the help of local and diasporan Western Armenian community
> members.
> > >>
> > >> From the launch of the "Western Armenian project" we were challenged
> > with
> > >> the problem that Western Armenian has no ISO 639-3 language code which
> > did
> > >> not allow the community to split Western Armenian content into a
> > separate
> > >> language Wikipedia. This problem made lots of  trouble for us, as
> > hy.wiki
> > >> often had two versions of the same page.
> > >>
> > >> Wikimedia Armenia with Calouste Gulbenkian Foundation eventually
> > decided to
> > >> apply for code split. [4] This was done mainly with the help of
> Michael
> > >> Everson. [5] Besides WM AM and Armenian Communities Department of
> > Calouste
> > >> Gulbenkian foundation there were also other parties involved, such as
> > the
> > >> department of Armenian Studies of the Institut National des Langues et
> > >> Civilisations Orientales, Paris and other academic institutions.
> > >>
> > >> Today is a special day for Wikimedia Armenia and Western Armenian
> > speaking
> > >> community as our proposal was accepted. Thanks all Wikimedians who
> > >> supported us in this work.
> > >>
> > >> Best,
> > >> Davit Saroyan
> > >> Program Manager
> > >> Wikimedia Armenia
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> 1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_Armenian
> > >> 2.
> > >> http://www-01.sil.org/iso639-3/cr_files/PastComments/CR_
> > >> Comments_2017-023.pdf
> > >> 3. https://gulbenkian.pt/en/
> > >> 4. http://www-01.sil.org/iso639-3/cr_files/2017-023.pdf
> > >> 5. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Everson
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] New language code for Western Armenian language

[Gerard Meijssen]

Hoi,
If anything it is proof that a quality standard allows for change.

In Michael Everson, a member of the standards world, we have someone who
was asked to become a member of the Wikimedia language committee. Over the
years he has provided us with several important services. This is only one.

Once we had a really strong team of people who were at the forefront of
language technology. There is no longer the same attention for  supporting
languages and the scripts used by languages. What is done at this time by
people like Santosh is done in their spare time. We could do more and we
don't. We do not support the SignWriting font even though it will support
all sign languages.

Yes, congratulations are due to Michael, to ISO, to the people who took
their time to champion the Western Armenian language and indeed, the result
is wonderful.
Thanks,
  GerardM

On 1 February 2018 at 18:23, Alphos OGame  wrote:

> That's fantastic !
>
> Proof, if it was ever needed, that the Wikimedia movement can have an
> effect on the "outside world" other than collecting and providing
> information ; Wikimedia Armenia actually took the leading part in bettering
> an international standard !
>
> My most heartfelt congratulations :-)
>
> Alphos
>
>
> > Le 1 févr. 2018 à 00:00, Delphine Ménard  a
> écrit :
> >
> > Congratulations to Wikimedia Armenia for those truly great efforts!
> >
> > best,
> >
> > Delphine
> >
> > 2018-01-31 11:39 GMT+01:00 David Saroyan :
> >
> >> Dear all,
> >>
> >> I'm pleased to announce that the efforts of Wikimedia Armenia to get
> >> separate ISO 639-3 language code for Western Armenian [1] were finally
> >> succeeded. SIL International, the ISO 639-3 Registration Authority,
> decided
> >> to create the code element [hyw] for Western Armenian. [2]
> >>
> >> We initiated this process three years ago when we started the
> collaboration
> >> with the Calouste Gulbenkian Foundation [3] in order to foster and
> improve
> >> free content in Western Armenian. This resulted in "Western Armenian
> >> project" where Wikimedia Armenia through different events and activities
> >> started to disseminate and support the creation of Western Armenian
> content
> >> with the help of local and diasporan Western Armenian community members.
> >>
> >> From the launch of the "Western Armenian project" we were challenged
> with
> >> the problem that Western Armenian has no ISO 639-3 language code which
> did
> >> not allow the community to split Western Armenian content into a
> separate
> >> language Wikipedia. This problem made lots of  trouble for us, as
> hy.wiki
> >> often had two versions of the same page.
> >>
> >> Wikimedia Armenia with Calouste Gulbenkian Foundation eventually
> decided to
> >> apply for code split. [4] This was done mainly with the help of Michael
> >> Everson. [5] Besides WM AM and Armenian Communities Department of
> Calouste
> >> Gulbenkian foundation there were also other parties involved, such as
> the
> >> department of Armenian Studies of the Institut National des Langues et
> >> Civilisations Orientales, Paris and other academic institutions.
> >>
> >> Today is a special day for Wikimedia Armenia and Western Armenian
> speaking
> >> community as our proposal was accepted. Thanks all Wikimedians who
> >> supported us in this work.
> >>
> >> Best,
> >> Davit Saroyan
> >> Program Manager
> >> Wikimedia Armenia
> >>
> >>
> >> 1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_Armenian
> >> 2.
> >> http://www-01.sil.org/iso639-3/cr_files/PastComments/CR_
> >> Comments_2017-023.pdf
> >> 3. https://gulbenkian.pt/en/
> >> 4. http://www-01.sil.org/iso639-3/cr_files/2017-023.pdf
> >> 5. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Everson
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] New language code for Western Armenian language

[Alphos OGame]

That's fantastic !

Proof, if it was ever needed, that the Wikimedia movement can have an effect on 
the "outside world" other than collecting and providing information ; Wikimedia 
Armenia actually took the leading part in bettering an international standard !

My most heartfelt congratulations :-)

Alphos


> Le 1 févr. 2018 à 00:00, Delphine Ménard  a écrit :
> 
> Congratulations to Wikimedia Armenia for those truly great efforts!
> 
> best,
> 
> Delphine
> 
> 2018-01-31 11:39 GMT+01:00 David Saroyan :
> 
>> Dear all,
>> 
>> I'm pleased to announce that the efforts of Wikimedia Armenia to get
>> separate ISO 639-3 language code for Western Armenian [1] were finally
>> succeeded. SIL International, the ISO 639-3 Registration Authority, decided
>> to create the code element [hyw] for Western Armenian. [2]
>> 
>> We initiated this process three years ago when we started the collaboration
>> with the Calouste Gulbenkian Foundation [3] in order to foster and improve
>> free content in Western Armenian. This resulted in "Western Armenian
>> project" where Wikimedia Armenia through different events and activities
>> started to disseminate and support the creation of Western Armenian content
>> with the help of local and diasporan Western Armenian community members.
>> 
>> From the launch of the "Western Armenian project" we were challenged with
>> the problem that Western Armenian has no ISO 639-3 language code which did
>> not allow the community to split Western Armenian content into a separate
>> language Wikipedia. This problem made lots of  trouble for us, as hy.wiki
>> often had two versions of the same page.
>> 
>> Wikimedia Armenia with Calouste Gulbenkian Foundation eventually decided to
>> apply for code split. [4] This was done mainly with the help of Michael
>> Everson. [5] Besides WM AM and Armenian Communities Department of Calouste
>> Gulbenkian foundation there were also other parties involved, such as the
>> department of Armenian Studies of the Institut National des Langues et
>> Civilisations Orientales, Paris and other academic institutions.
>> 
>> Today is a special day for Wikimedia Armenia and Western Armenian speaking
>> community as our proposal was accepted. Thanks all Wikimedians who
>> supported us in this work.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Davit Saroyan
>> Program Manager
>> Wikimedia Armenia
>> 
>> 
>> 1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_Armenian
>> 2.
>> http://www-01.sil.org/iso639-3/cr_files/PastComments/CR_
>> Comments_2017-023.pdf
>> 3. https://gulbenkian.pt/en/
>> 4. http://www-01.sil.org/iso639-3/cr_files/2017-023.pdf
>> 5. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Everson
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] New language code for Western Armenian language

[Cornelius Kibelka]

This is really great! Congratulations to this success to both of you,
Wikimedia Armenia and the Gulbenkian Foundation!

I really appreciate to see that creating and preserving Free Knowledge can
have such an influence on official language policies :)

Best regards
Cornelius

On 1 February 2018 at 00:00, Delphine Ménard  wrote:

> Congratulations to Wikimedia Armenia for those truly great efforts!
>
> best,
>
> Delphine
>
> 2018-01-31 11:39 GMT+01:00 David Saroyan :
>
> > Dear all,
> >
> > I'm pleased to announce that the efforts of Wikimedia Armenia to get
> > separate ISO 639-3 language code for Western Armenian [1] were finally
> > succeeded. SIL International, the ISO 639-3 Registration Authority,
> decided
> > to create the code element [hyw] for Western Armenian. [2]
> >
> > We initiated this process three years ago when we started the
> collaboration
> > with the Calouste Gulbenkian Foundation [3] in order to foster and
> improve
> > free content in Western Armenian. This resulted in "Western Armenian
> > project" where Wikimedia Armenia through different events and activities
> > started to disseminate and support the creation of Western Armenian
> content
> > with the help of local and diasporan Western Armenian community members.
> >
> > From the launch of the "Western Armenian project" we were challenged with
> > the problem that Western Armenian has no ISO 639-3 language code which
> did
> > not allow the community to split Western Armenian content into a separate
> > language Wikipedia. This problem made lots of  trouble for us, as hy.wiki
> > often had two versions of the same page.
> >
> > Wikimedia Armenia with Calouste Gulbenkian Foundation eventually decided
> to
> > apply for code split. [4] This was done mainly with the help of Michael
> > Everson. [5] Besides WM AM and Armenian Communities Department of
> Calouste
> > Gulbenkian foundation there were also other parties involved, such as the
> > department of Armenian Studies of the Institut National des Langues et
> > Civilisations Orientales, Paris and other academic institutions.
> >
> > Today is a special day for Wikimedia Armenia and Western Armenian
> speaking
> > community as our proposal was accepted. Thanks all Wikimedians who
> > supported us in this work.
> >
> > Best,
> > Davit Saroyan
> > Program Manager
> > Wikimedia Armenia
> >
> >
> > 1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_Armenian
> > 2.
> > http://www-01.sil.org/iso639-3/cr_files/PastComments/CR_
> > Comments_2017-023.pdf
> > 3. https://gulbenkian.pt/en/
> > 4. http://www-01.sil.org/iso639-3/cr_files/2017-023.pdf
> > 5. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Everson
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] New language code for Western Armenian language

[Delphine Ménard]

Congratulations to Wikimedia Armenia for those truly great efforts!

best,

Delphine

2018-01-31 11:39 GMT+01:00 David Saroyan :

> Dear all,
>
> I'm pleased to announce that the efforts of Wikimedia Armenia to get
> separate ISO 639-3 language code for Western Armenian [1] were finally
> succeeded. SIL International, the ISO 639-3 Registration Authority, decided
> to create the code element [hyw] for Western Armenian. [2]
>
> We initiated this process three years ago when we started the collaboration
> with the Calouste Gulbenkian Foundation [3] in order to foster and improve
> free content in Western Armenian. This resulted in "Western Armenian
> project" where Wikimedia Armenia through different events and activities
> started to disseminate and support the creation of Western Armenian content
> with the help of local and diasporan Western Armenian community members.
>
> From the launch of the "Western Armenian project" we were challenged with
> the problem that Western Armenian has no ISO 639-3 language code which did
> not allow the community to split Western Armenian content into a separate
> language Wikipedia. This problem made lots of  trouble for us, as hy.wiki
> often had two versions of the same page.
>
> Wikimedia Armenia with Calouste Gulbenkian Foundation eventually decided to
> apply for code split. [4] This was done mainly with the help of Michael
> Everson. [5] Besides WM AM and Armenian Communities Department of Calouste
> Gulbenkian foundation there were also other parties involved, such as the
> department of Armenian Studies of the Institut National des Langues et
> Civilisations Orientales, Paris and other academic institutions.
>
> Today is a special day for Wikimedia Armenia and Western Armenian speaking
> community as our proposal was accepted. Thanks all Wikimedians who
> supported us in this work.
>
> Best,
> Davit Saroyan
> Program Manager
> Wikimedia Armenia
>
>
> 1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_Armenian
> 2.
> http://www-01.sil.org/iso639-3/cr_files/PastComments/CR_
> Comments_2017-023.pdf
> 3. https://gulbenkian.pt/en/
> 4. http://www-01.sil.org/iso639-3/cr_files/2017-023.pdf
> 5. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Everson
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