Re: [Wikimedia-l] Ombuds Commission now accepting nominations for 2020

[Dan Garry (Deskana)]

On Fri, 11 Oct 2019 at 08:52, Henry Wood  wrote:

> So the Ombudsman Commission is managed by a department that they are
> likely to want to report on?
>

No. The Ombudsman Commission oversees volunteer actions only. Complaints
about staff should be sent directly to the Wikimedia Foundation.

I should note that the Ombudsman Commission page on Meta
 does not explicitly
state what I have said above; I am basing my comment on my past experience
when I was on the Ombudsman Commission.

Dan
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Ombuds Commission now accepting nominations for 2020

[Henry Wood]

> Just noting in passing that, technically, the Ombudsman Commission formally
> reports to the WMF Board of Trustees, which has in turn delegated the
> ongoing management and responsibility for the commission to the WMF Trust &
> Safety Department.

So the Ombudsman Commission is managed by a department that they are
likely to want to report on?

Henry

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Ombuds Commission now accepting nominations for 2020

[Risker]

Just noting in passing that, technically, the Ombudsman Commission formally
reports to the WMF Board of Trustees, which has in turn delegated the
ongoing management and responsibility for the commission to the WMF Trust &
Safety Department.  In other words, the OC has always been a "WMF"
committee, charged with enforcing WMF board-approved policies, most
particularly the privacy policy.

Risker/Anne

On Wed, 9 Oct 2019 at 16:44, Pine W  wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Sorry that I'm late replying to this thread. I have been very busy in the
> past few weeks.
>
> I have a proposal that likely will not affect the current round of
> appointments because implementation would require some time and careful
> deliberation. This proposal isn't intended as a personal critique.
>
> I would like to see the selection process for OC be done by the community
> with WMF consent, similar to how stewards are appointed. I think it's
> important that community members not be viewed as agents of WMF, and the
> current system for OC appointments seems to imply that WMF has authority to
> oversee or to control the use of advanced permissions and the OC as an
> organization. I think that this should be flipped, with WMF supporting
> community institutions and not the other way around. I'm okay with WMF
> being involved in the selection process for OC candidates by conducting
> background checks on candidates and having some limited veto authority, but
> WMF's role should primarily be one of providing support to community
> members and institutions such as the OC.
>
> Thank you for listening.
>
> Pine
> ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine )
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Ombuds Commission now accepting nominations for 2020

[Pine W]

Hello,

Sorry that I'm late replying to this thread. I have been very busy in the
past few weeks.

I have a proposal that likely will not affect the current round of
appointments because implementation would require some time and careful
deliberation. This proposal isn't intended as a personal critique.

I would like to see the selection process for OC be done by the community
with WMF consent, similar to how stewards are appointed. I think it's
important that community members not be viewed as agents of WMF, and the
current system for OC appointments seems to imply that WMF has authority to
oversee or to control the use of advanced permissions and the OC as an
organization. I think that this should be flipped, with WMF supporting
community institutions and not the other way around. I'm okay with WMF
being involved in the selection process for OC candidates by conducting
background checks on candidates and having some limited veto authority, but
WMF's role should primarily be one of providing support to community
members and institutions such as the OC.

Thank you for listening.

Pine
( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine )
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