Re: [Wikimediaau-l] official wiki

2009-12-15 Thread Michelle Gallaway
This might be silly, but can you set it so that IPs and non-members can only edit pages in the Talk: space or something? That would allow discussion to occur around important issues while keeping the integrity of things like the minutes and the constitution protected. Of course as Angela said the

Re: [Wikimediaau-l] official wiki

2009-12-15 Thread Andrew
2009/12/14 Liam Wyatt > If we hope to get more grassroots involvement in the chapter then IMO we > cannot force people to pay $40 and register an account before they can > engage in chapter activities. Volunteers should not be forced to pay money > to volunteer. Why is it assumed that "voluntee

[Wikimediaau-l] Getting started

2009-12-15 Thread Adam Karpathakis
Hi, I'm a fairly new Wikimedian. I hope this is the right place as there is two lists. I would like to get a discussion started on how to approach institutions. I am a confident speaker but to senior people to whom I am Mr Joe Blow off the street, I don't have any firm ideas on gaining trust th

Re: [Wikimediaau-l] official wiki

2009-12-15 Thread private musings
'...As it is, three already busy committee members are the main editors.' !! ;-) (ps. I think Andrew's post sort of has cause and effect a bit bassackwards ;-) I see it this way - if engaging and growing membership is a priority then lowering the bar for engagement is a good thing. I have ha

Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Getting started

2009-12-15 Thread private musings
Hi Adam :-) I reckon this list is a pretty good starting point - and although it may seem like everyone is most interested in access rights to the wiki, I think that's probably also just a temporary thing - as you've probably seen, mailing lists can get all focussed on odd things for a while - perh

[Wikimediaau-l] Conroy - "Measures to improve safety of the internet for families"

2009-12-15 Thread Matt inbgn
Hi all, Does the chapter have a position on this proposal ? Should it have a position? If it has a position, what should it be doing to advance that position? Cheers, Matt ___ Wikimediaau

Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Conroy - "Measures to improve safety of the internet for families"

2009-12-15 Thread private musings
...I guess this topic is bound to come up - so no harm in a thread or two, I reckon No doubt press commentary is worth a look ( see http://www.smh.com.au/technology/technology-news/net-censorship-move-a-smokescreen-expert-20091216-kw7d.html) for example. Dealing, as this proposal does, with sol

Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Conroy - "Measures to improve safety of the internet for families"

2009-12-15 Thread private musings
ps. This section from the 'FAQ' is probably relavent too; "In consultation with owners of popular overseas sites, *consideration is being given to exempt high traffic sites* from having their material included on the RC Content list if they implement arrangements to either take down identified RC-r

Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Conroy - "Measures to improve safety of the internet for families"

2009-12-15 Thread private musings
pps. because, in my view, wiki's are better for brainstorming and consensus building than mailing lists... see http://wikimedia.org.au/wiki/ISP_Filtering too :-) On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 3:51 PM, private musings wrote: > ps. This section from the 'FAQ' is probably relavent too; > "In consultation

Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Conroy - "Measures to improve safety of the internet for families"

2009-12-15 Thread Peter Halasz
I don't see this exception applying, as I don't see WMF (or the community) agreeing to take down this sort of material, as it has not in the past. I refer to the English Wikipedia article "Virgin Killer" (a mid-1970s record album from German heavy metal band the Scorpion), which has not been taken

Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Conroy - "Measures to improve safety of the internet for families"

2009-12-15 Thread Andrew
Matt, thanks - good question. As yet, no it doesn't have an official position - I have forwarded this to the committee list so one can be reached promptly. Cheers Andrew On 16/12/2009, Matt inbgn wrote: > Hi all, > > Does the chapter have a position on this > proposal

Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Conroy - "Measures to improve safety of the internet for families"

2009-12-15 Thread Liam Wyatt
Yes, indeed this is a good question and an important issue. On a personal basis I am completely opposed to the filter and I imagine most Wikimedians in Australia are. However, I would caution that the Chapter cannot be seen in word or deed to be "responsible for" Wikipedia. This was a problem faced

Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Conroy - "Measures to improve safety of the internet for families"

2009-12-15 Thread Matt inbgn
Liam, All good points, especially about ensuring that we do not, inadvertently or otherwise, give the appearance of having any control whatsover with the operation of Wikipedia and Commons. I would argue that "Free" in "Free Cultural Works" includes "freely accessible" and there is a legitimate r