Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Fundraising
Peter: At present we have roughly 35 financial members, and roughly 80 people who have either applied for membership and been approved by the committee but haven't paid their fees yet and people who have previously been members but have not yet paid this year's fees. Unfortunately the software only sends reminder notices to the first group so there are likely some people in the second who don't realise their fees are not up-to-date, especially because the first year's membership for many was not actually a full year (hence why we offered a 50% discount for people who paid this years fees in a timely manner). I think it's important to remember that the chapter is still less than one year old and I think we're generally travelling very well for a young and relatively small group, but membership and sustainability is obviously going to be the most significant challenge facing the new committee. On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 10:12 AM, private musings wrote: > Hi all, > > It's probably worth contacting both CPA and CA australia to see if they > could hook us up with a volunteer suitably skilled to do the job - I take it > we don't really have any idea how much money might come in from joining the > fundraising drive, but 20K for the year is probably a good target anyways, > so it would be nice to have someone on board who can happily do the job :-) > > Let me know if you'd like me to make a call or two (or indeed if such calls > have already been made!) - I would hope there's someone out there who would > be willing to help out? (it's another good way to get another member too, of > course! ;-) > > Further - re : Sarah's and your note about financial members etc. (I know, > I'm one of the tardy ones!) - could we confirm how many financial members we > have for this AGM? - just for the curious! :-) > > cheers, > > Peter, > PM. > > > On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 2:10 AM, Brianna Laugher < > brianna.laug...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> A quick word. >> >> We are currently looking at seeking fundraising approval in each >> state. OurCommunity has useful links to the law in each state - >> http://www.ourcommunity.com.au/management/view_help_sheet.do?articleid=50 >> >> It feels very ridiculous that we need to seek this approval on a state >> by state basis, when we are doing purely online fundraising, but >> that's the law for you...slow to catch up in this instance. >> >> Each state has different requirements. >> >> In particular for NSW we need to write down who our auditor will be. >> The auditor has to audit us within 6 months of the end of the FY and >> submit it to the NSW Office of Liquor, Gaming and Racing. The auditor >> should be >> 1) a Registered Company Auditor, or >> 2) a member of an accounting body (CPA Australia/Institute of >> Chartered Accountants), or >> 3) a person with a formal accounting qualification. >> >> If the income is less than 20k, we can use an auditor without formal >> qualifications, but then we have to get their approval for that, so >> obviously just having someone who fits into one of the above >> categories makes it all easier. >> >> So if you are such a person, or know such a person who might be happy >> to be our auditor, please get in contact! Email me or another >> committee member offlist. >> >> And if you have familiarity with applying for this approval in other >> states, we would also love your help (especially Queensland, also >> Victoria). >> >> thanks, >> Brianna >> >> >> 2009/11/1 Brianna Laugher : >> > Hello, >> > >> > The fundraiser and our taking part in it, or not, has been the main >> > matter of discussion within the committee for the past few weeks. And >> > it is still under discussion... If we do take part, it is likely to be >> > with a late start (ie the fundraiser is due to start early November, >> > and run for around two months, but maybe our involvement would only >> > begin in December). >> > >> > It would be a good help if we could locate a volunteer bookkeeper, >> > especially in Melbourne. Likewise, a CiviCRM expert (user). So if >> > anyone knows or is such a person, it would be great if they could make >> > themselves known :) >> > >> > Sorry for the radio silence of late... I have some communiques I am >> > due to put together and send to this list ASAP... so hopefully >> > sometime over the Cup weekend. >> > >> > cheers >> > Brianna >> > >> > >> > 2009/10/30 private musings : >> >> just a quick second on the offer to help - I think it's really quite >> >> important that we as a chapter are able to join the fundraising process >> - >> >> p'raps it's all underway, and we're all signed up but the list isn't up >> to >> >> date. If so, hopefully someone in the know can update, and if not, it'd >> be >> >> great to make this a pretty high priority :-) >> >> >> >> cheers, >> >> >> >> Peter, >> >> PM. >> >> >> >> On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 10:59 AM, Angela wrote: >> >>> >> >>> Wikimedia's fundraising campaign is starting next month. Six chapters >> >>> are on the li
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Fundraising
2009/11/10 private musings : > Hi all, > > It's probably worth contacting both CPA and CA australia to see if they > could hook us up with a volunteer suitably skilled to do the job - I take it > we don't really have any idea how much money might come in from joining the > fundraising drive, but 20K for the year is probably a good target anyways, > so it would be nice to have someone on board who can happily do the job :-) > > Let me know if you'd like me to make a call or two (or indeed if such calls > have already been made!) - I would hope there's someone out there who would > be willing to help out? (it's another good way to get another member too, of > course! ;-) I replied offlist re this... > Further - re : Sarah's and your note about financial members etc. (I know, > I'm one of the tardy ones!) - could we confirm how many financial members we > have for this AGM? - just for the curious! :-) I believe it's in the order of 30-40 at the moment. Brianna ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Fundraising
Hi all, It's probably worth contacting both CPA and CA australia to see if they could hook us up with a volunteer suitably skilled to do the job - I take it we don't really have any idea how much money might come in from joining the fundraising drive, but 20K for the year is probably a good target anyways, so it would be nice to have someone on board who can happily do the job :-) Let me know if you'd like me to make a call or two (or indeed if such calls have already been made!) - I would hope there's someone out there who would be willing to help out? (it's another good way to get another member too, of course! ;-) Further - re : Sarah's and your note about financial members etc. (I know, I'm one of the tardy ones!) - could we confirm how many financial members we have for this AGM? - just for the curious! :-) cheers, Peter, PM. On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 2:10 AM, Brianna Laugher wrote: > A quick word. > > We are currently looking at seeking fundraising approval in each > state. OurCommunity has useful links to the law in each state - > http://www.ourcommunity.com.au/management/view_help_sheet.do?articleid=50 > > It feels very ridiculous that we need to seek this approval on a state > by state basis, when we are doing purely online fundraising, but > that's the law for you...slow to catch up in this instance. > > Each state has different requirements. > > In particular for NSW we need to write down who our auditor will be. > The auditor has to audit us within 6 months of the end of the FY and > submit it to the NSW Office of Liquor, Gaming and Racing. The auditor > should be > 1) a Registered Company Auditor, or > 2) a member of an accounting body (CPA Australia/Institute of > Chartered Accountants), or > 3) a person with a formal accounting qualification. > > If the income is less than 20k, we can use an auditor without formal > qualifications, but then we have to get their approval for that, so > obviously just having someone who fits into one of the above > categories makes it all easier. > > So if you are such a person, or know such a person who might be happy > to be our auditor, please get in contact! Email me or another > committee member offlist. > > And if you have familiarity with applying for this approval in other > states, we would also love your help (especially Queensland, also > Victoria). > > thanks, > Brianna > > > 2009/11/1 Brianna Laugher : > > Hello, > > > > The fundraiser and our taking part in it, or not, has been the main > > matter of discussion within the committee for the past few weeks. And > > it is still under discussion... If we do take part, it is likely to be > > with a late start (ie the fundraiser is due to start early November, > > and run for around two months, but maybe our involvement would only > > begin in December). > > > > It would be a good help if we could locate a volunteer bookkeeper, > > especially in Melbourne. Likewise, a CiviCRM expert (user). So if > > anyone knows or is such a person, it would be great if they could make > > themselves known :) > > > > Sorry for the radio silence of late... I have some communiques I am > > due to put together and send to this list ASAP... so hopefully > > sometime over the Cup weekend. > > > > cheers > > Brianna > > > > > > 2009/10/30 private musings : > >> just a quick second on the offer to help - I think it's really quite > >> important that we as a chapter are able to join the fundraising process > - > >> p'raps it's all underway, and we're all signed up but the list isn't up > to > >> date. If so, hopefully someone in the know can update, and if not, it'd > be > >> great to make this a pretty high priority :-) > >> > >> cheers, > >> > >> Peter, > >> PM. > >> > >> On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 10:59 AM, Angela wrote: > >>> > >>> Wikimedia's fundraising campaign is starting next month. Six chapters > >>> are on the list to take part in that and will receive some of the > >>> funding that comes in from relevant countries. Is there any reason > >>> Wikimedia Australia is not on the list? Is help needed with anything > >>> to get the chapter ready for the fundraising drive so that it can take > >>> part? > >>> > >>> Angela > >>> > >>> ___ > >>> Wikimediaau-l mailing list > >>> Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org > >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l > >> > >> > >> ___ > >> Wikimediaau-l mailing list > >> Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org > >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l > >> > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > They've just been waiting in a mountain for the right moment: > > http://modernthings.org/ > > > > > > -- > They've just been waiting in a mountain for the right moment: > http://modernthings.org/ > > ___ > Wikimediaau-l mailing list > Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l > __
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Fundraising
A quick word. We are currently looking at seeking fundraising approval in each state. OurCommunity has useful links to the law in each state - http://www.ourcommunity.com.au/management/view_help_sheet.do?articleid=50 It feels very ridiculous that we need to seek this approval on a state by state basis, when we are doing purely online fundraising, but that's the law for you...slow to catch up in this instance. Each state has different requirements. In particular for NSW we need to write down who our auditor will be. The auditor has to audit us within 6 months of the end of the FY and submit it to the NSW Office of Liquor, Gaming and Racing. The auditor should be 1) a Registered Company Auditor, or 2) a member of an accounting body (CPA Australia/Institute of Chartered Accountants), or 3) a person with a formal accounting qualification. If the income is less than 20k, we can use an auditor without formal qualifications, but then we have to get their approval for that, so obviously just having someone who fits into one of the above categories makes it all easier. So if you are such a person, or know such a person who might be happy to be our auditor, please get in contact! Email me or another committee member offlist. And if you have familiarity with applying for this approval in other states, we would also love your help (especially Queensland, also Victoria). thanks, Brianna 2009/11/1 Brianna Laugher : > Hello, > > The fundraiser and our taking part in it, or not, has been the main > matter of discussion within the committee for the past few weeks. And > it is still under discussion... If we do take part, it is likely to be > with a late start (ie the fundraiser is due to start early November, > and run for around two months, but maybe our involvement would only > begin in December). > > It would be a good help if we could locate a volunteer bookkeeper, > especially in Melbourne. Likewise, a CiviCRM expert (user). So if > anyone knows or is such a person, it would be great if they could make > themselves known :) > > Sorry for the radio silence of late... I have some communiques I am > due to put together and send to this list ASAP... so hopefully > sometime over the Cup weekend. > > cheers > Brianna > > > 2009/10/30 private musings : >> just a quick second on the offer to help - I think it's really quite >> important that we as a chapter are able to join the fundraising process - >> p'raps it's all underway, and we're all signed up but the list isn't up to >> date. If so, hopefully someone in the know can update, and if not, it'd be >> great to make this a pretty high priority :-) >> >> cheers, >> >> Peter, >> PM. >> >> On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 10:59 AM, Angela wrote: >>> >>> Wikimedia's fundraising campaign is starting next month. Six chapters >>> are on the list to take part in that and will receive some of the >>> funding that comes in from relevant countries. Is there any reason >>> Wikimedia Australia is not on the list? Is help needed with anything >>> to get the chapter ready for the fundraising drive so that it can take >>> part? >>> >>> Angela >>> >>> ___ >>> Wikimediaau-l mailing list >>> Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l >> >> >> ___ >> Wikimediaau-l mailing list >> Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l >> >> > > > > -- > They've just been waiting in a mountain for the right moment: > http://modernthings.org/ > -- They've just been waiting in a mountain for the right moment: http://modernthings.org/ ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Fundraising
Angela, I need to ask the question. What would the money be used for? I know it's good to get the pennies in. But could we put the horse before the cart. You know one of the things which so many people in Wikimedia have been asking for, for a long time, Has been an online forum; preferably one where groups from around the world, inside and outside Wikimedia (like GLAMerous people) can share certain sections. Tim Starling, as one, has more than the technical ability to come up with something quite special (I'm sure). The one thing which is being spoken about in government (governance), and its strategy, especially in Europe, is this need to be inclusive. "We need to use the 'right' tools". Email lists and IRC are fine if you just want to keep the status quo. But when so many people have asked for a forum, for such a long time, you'd have to question HO's ability to be responsive about other things. As I do. Re: the volunteer accountant Liam. Can't you just do this online and ask San Fran to look after the balances and reporting? They're bound to be pretty simple accounts, and there is an advantage in being to transfer easily between accounts. E.g. Cheaper, faster, easier, more flexible. I used to work with a Sunny computer company, so i can't tell you all the other advantages. (Who said transfer pricing?) simonfj Wikimedia's fundraising campaign is starting next month. Six chapters are on the list to take part in that and will receive some of the funding that comes in from relevant countries. Is there any reason Wikimedia Australia is not on the list? Is help needed with anything to get the chapter ready for the fundraising drive so that it can take part? Angela ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Fundraising
Hello, The fundraiser and our taking part in it, or not, has been the main matter of discussion within the committee for the past few weeks. And it is still under discussion... If we do take part, it is likely to be with a late start (ie the fundraiser is due to start early November, and run for around two months, but maybe our involvement would only begin in December). It would be a good help if we could locate a volunteer bookkeeper, especially in Melbourne. Likewise, a CiviCRM expert (user). So if anyone knows or is such a person, it would be great if they could make themselves known :) Sorry for the radio silence of late... I have some communiques I am due to put together and send to this list ASAP... so hopefully sometime over the Cup weekend. cheers Brianna 2009/10/30 private musings : > just a quick second on the offer to help - I think it's really quite > important that we as a chapter are able to join the fundraising process - > p'raps it's all underway, and we're all signed up but the list isn't up to > date. If so, hopefully someone in the know can update, and if not, it'd be > great to make this a pretty high priority :-) > > cheers, > > Peter, > PM. > > On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 10:59 AM, Angela wrote: >> >> Wikimedia's fundraising campaign is starting next month. Six chapters >> are on the list to take part in that and will receive some of the >> funding that comes in from relevant countries. Is there any reason >> Wikimedia Australia is not on the list? Is help needed with anything >> to get the chapter ready for the fundraising drive so that it can take >> part? >> >> Angela >> >> ___ >> Wikimediaau-l mailing list >> Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l > > > ___ > Wikimediaau-l mailing list > Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l > > -- They've just been waiting in a mountain for the right moment: http://modernthings.org/ ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Fundraising
just a quick second on the offer to help - I think it's really quite important that we as a chapter are able to join the fundraising process - p'raps it's all underway, and we're all signed up but the list isn't up to date. If so, hopefully someone in the know can update, and if not, it'd be great to make this a pretty high priority :-) cheers, Peter, PM. On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 10:59 AM, Angela wrote: > Wikimedia's fundraising campaign is starting next month. Six chapters > are on the list to take part in that and will receive some of the > funding that comes in from relevant countries. Is there any reason > Wikimedia Australia is not on the list? Is help needed with anything > to get the chapter ready for the fundraising drive so that it can take > part? > > Angela > > ___ > Wikimediaau-l mailing list > Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l > ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
[Wikimediaau-l] Fundraising
Wikimedia's fundraising campaign is starting next month. Six chapters are on the list to take part in that and will receive some of the funding that comes in from relevant countries. Is there any reason Wikimedia Australia is not on the list? Is help needed with anything to get the chapter ready for the fundraising drive so that it can take part? Angela ___ Wikimediaau-l mailing list Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
