Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Malayalam wikipedia crossed the 10 Lakh/1 million edits milestone

2011-01-29 Thread Asaf Bartov
Thanks for these stats and the descriptions of policy you have all shared.
 I find them quite interesting.

Cheers,

   Asaf

On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 4:42 PM, Shiju Alex shijualexonl...@gmail.comwrote:

 In fact, bot edits in Indian Wikis is also an interesting metric. For
 example, see the below table to understand share of the *percentage of bot
 edits* across some major Indian wikis.

- Bengali - 76
- Bishnupriya Manipuri  - 97
- Gujarati  - 37
- Hindi - 50
- Kannada - 59
- Malayalam -  42
- Marathi  - 62
- Sanskrit - 85
- Tamil - 51
- Telugu - 51
- Urdu  - 59

 I know that for some Indian language wikipedians the only relevant metric
 is *number of articles*. But of course, not for the Malayalam wikipedians.
 We saw much value in all the metric that is published at
 http://stats.wikimedia.org/. I know many others are also finding value to
 it, that is why it is published every month.

 Shiju Alex



 On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 6:33 PM, BalaSundaraRaman 
 sundarbe...@yahoo.comwrote:

 Praveen,

 You've shown how much insight we can glean by provoking Malayalam Wiki
 friends. ;)
 We all got a great inside view of the different aspects of participation
 in one of the finest Indian wikis.


  So if anybody believes that Malayalam Wikipedia is irrelevant, I welcome
 them to there to check its irrelevancy and contribute their home
  wikii until it become irrelevant like Malayalam Wikipedia. :)

 I don't think anyone doubted that.


 - Sundar

 That language is an instrument of human reason, and not merely a medium
 for the expression of thought, is a truth generally admitted.
 - George Boole, quoted in Iverson's Turing Award Lecture


 *From:* praveenp me.prav...@gmail.com

 *To:* Discussion list on Indian language projects of Wikimedia. 
 wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
 *Sent:* Thu, January 27, 2011 5:58:25 PM
 *Subject:* Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Malayalam wikipedia crossed the 10
 Lakh/1 million edits milestone

 On Thursday 27 January 2011 10:31 AM, Ravishankar wrote:

 Its not just about stubs.

 We have users in Tamil Wikipedia who bulk upload 100s of complete articles
 they wrote offline with just one edit per article. One great article can be
 uploaded in one click and one mediocre article can have 100s of edits.

 According to

 http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/List_of_Wikipedias

 *Depths above 300 for 
 Wikipediashttp://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/List_of_Wikipedias#Notesbelow 100 
 000 articles have been automatically dismissed as irrelevant.
 *
 When we focus on number of articles, some end up creating useless stubs.
 The same should not happen when we focus on edit counts.

 Ravi

 This may be nothing related to original thread. Sorry. Malayalam wikipedia
 has its strength and its weakness.

 Depth is just an indicator of collaborative character of editors. For a
 massive multiauthor collaboration site, some measurement mechanism is better
 than none. But I don't think large number of edits are bad. If anyone thinks
 that articel by single edit is better than multi edited article, I must say
 thats not wiki style :( .

 But there is an another issue, number of bot edits. Many ml users, mainly
 students, like to play with bots. Malayalam Wikipedia has never discouraged
 anyone for testing their bots (if their edits are okay), because user
 satisfaction is also a Wikipedia goal. We know that eventually they will
 create a great bot :).  Sometimes running a bot is not very simple. I had a
 spell checker bot and I had to overview all of its edits, because of
 Malayalam's ligatures and grammatical rules [or may be because bad logic
 ;-)]. Even after running couple of months, it threw exceptions. So I'll say
 bot edits also are a kind of manual inputs. Now there are many global bots,
 most of them contributing interwiki. Bot conflict and bot-edit-war occurs
 occasionally which we usually avoided by protecting the page or by noticing
 the owner (Recent eg: See history of 
 വർഗ്ഗം:ഫലകങ്ങൾhttp://ml.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%E0%B4%B5%E0%B5%BC%E0%B4%97%E0%B5%8D%E0%B4%97%E0%B4%82:%E0%B4%AB%E0%B4%B2%E0%B4%95%E0%B4%99%E0%B5%8D%E0%B4%99%E0%B5%BEaction=history).


 Malayalam Wikipedia is a small wiki, just over 16000 pages on main
 namespace, so it is easy to exaggerate bot contribution. But actually it is
 not, whenever a bot identified as doing  unwanted edit it gets blocked.

 There are many wiki-projects which always engage users to do something on
 wiki. So whenever a user find an error, even it is the minute one, he/she
 corrects it. Nobody waits for large content to edit. Many portal (കവാടം)
 pages are there, which helps users to find their favourite topic.

 In ml.wp - many pages in category namespace (there is an active
 categorization wiki-project, which keeps articles finely categorized), large
 number of templates and many help pages and project pages with good content
 (I'm sure that many of these help pages and project pages are really useful
 to new

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Malayalam wikipedia crossed the 10 Lakh/1 million edits milestone

2011-01-29 Thread BalaSundaraRaman
Hi Praveen,

 I like that incidental fallout phrase. ;-) I can now understand why 
 chapter and none of its activities are clear to common wikimedian. :)


Glad you liked the phrase. :)
However, I don't understand the connection between that and your following 
sentence about the chapter's activities.
I'm as much a common wikimedian as you, by the way.

- Sundar
 That language is an instrument of human reason, and not merely a medium for 
the expression of thought, is a truth generally admitted.
- George Boole, quoted in Iverson's Turing Award Lecture



- Original Message 
 From: praveenp me.prav...@gmail.com
 To: Discussion list on Indian language projects of Wikimedia. 
wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
 Sent: Sun, January 30, 2011 1:40:40 AM
 Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Malayalam wikipedia crossed the 10 Lakh/1 
million edits milestone
 
 On Friday 28 January 2011 11:16 AM, BalaSundaraRaman wrote:
  Hi  Praveen,
 
  Unfortunately I cannot find any fun there. And  provoking is not an 
option
  in
 
   collaboration. You could have just ask.
  I do agree. I was only referring  to the incidental fallout of you getting
  provoked.
  I wouldn't  support intentionally provoking anyone for that matter.
  And, I'm sure  nobody else had such an intention as well.
  I'm sorry if you're  offended.
 
  - Sundar
 
 I like that incidental fallout  phrase. ;-) I can now understand why 
 chapter and none of its activities are  clear to common wikimedian.  :)
 
 
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Malayalam wikipedia crossed the 10 Lakh/1 million edits milestone

2011-01-27 Thread Ravishankar
On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 12:59 PM, BalaSundaraRaman sundarbe...@yahoo.comwrote:

 +1. Yes, milestones are nice things to celebrate, but not something to
 start regarding as a metric.


+1 :)

When you start comparing with other wikis then it becomes a metric. And
depth is the only metric related with total number of edits :)

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Malayalam wikipedia crossed the 10 Lakh/1 million edits milestone

2011-01-27 Thread praveenp

On Thursday 27 January 2011 10:31 AM, Ravishankar wrote:

Its not just about stubs.

We have users in Tamil Wikipedia who bulk upload 100s of complete 
articles they wrote offline with just one edit per article. One great 
article can be uploaded in one click and one mediocre article can have 
100s of edits.


According to

http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/List_of_Wikipedias

*Depths above 300 for Wikipedias 
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/List_of_Wikipedias#Notes below 
100 000 articles have been automatically dismissed as irrelevant.

*
When we focus on number of articles, some end up creating useless 
stubs. The same should not happen when we focus on edit counts.


Ravi
This may be nothing related to original thread. Sorry. Malayalam 
wikipedia has its strength and its weakness.


Depth is just an indicator of collaborative character of editors. For a 
massive multiauthor collaboration site, some measurement mechanism is 
better than none. But I don't think large number of edits are bad. If 
anyone thinks that articel by single edit is better than multi edited 
article, I must say thats not wiki style :( .


But there is an another issue, number of bot edits. Many ml users, 
mainly students, like to play with bots. Malayalam Wikipedia has never 
discouraged anyone for testing their bots (if their edits are okay), 
because user satisfaction is also a Wikipedia goal. We know that 
eventually they will create a great bot :).  Sometimes running a bot is 
not very simple. I had a spell checker bot and I had to overview all of 
its edits, because of Malayalam's ligatures and grammatical rules [or 
may be because bad logic ;-)]. Even after running couple of months, it 
threw exceptions. So I'll say bot edits also are a kind of manual 
inputs. Now there are many global bots, most of them contributing 
interwiki. Bot conflict and bot-edit-war occurs occasionally which we 
usually avoided by protecting the page or by noticing the owner (Recent 
eg: See history of ??:??? 
http://ml.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%E0%B4%B5%E0%B5%BC%E0%B4%97%E0%B5%8D%E0%B4%97%E0%B4%82:%E0%B4%AB%E0%B4%B2%E0%B4%95%E0%B4%99%E0%B5%8D%E0%B4%99%E0%B5%BEaction=history). 



Malayalam Wikipedia is a small wiki, just over 16000 pages on main 
namespace, so it is easy to exaggerate bot contribution. But actually it 
is not, whenever a bot identified as doing  unwanted edit it gets blocked.


There are many wiki-projects which always engage users to do something 
on wiki. So whenever a user find an error, even it is the minute one, 
he/she corrects it. Nobody waits for large content to edit. Many portal 
(?) pages are there, which helps users to find their favourite topic.


In ml.wp - many pages in category namespace (there is an active 
categorization wiki-project, which keeps articles finely categorized), 
large number of templates and many help pages and project pages with 
good content (I'm sure that many of these help pages and project pages 
are really useful to new users to jump start wikipedia) are available. I 
think we are using talk pages aslo very well.


It is clear from depth formula, that all these factors can be 
incremental to depth. So if anybody believes that Malayalam Wikipedia 
is irrelevant, I welcome them to there to check its irrelevancy and 
contribute their home wikii until it become irrelevant like Malayalam 
Wikipedia. :)


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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Malayalam wikipedia crossed the 10 Lakh/1 million edits milestone

2011-01-27 Thread Ravishankar
 It is clear from depth formula, that all these factors can be incremental
 to depth. So if anybody believes that Malayalam Wikipedia is irrelevant, I
 welcome them to there to check its irrelevancy and contribute their home
 wikii until it become irrelevant like Malayalam Wikipedia. :)


Hi Praveen,

My comment was shared generally on what we measure and its relevance.

For example, Google measures its project based on number of words
translated. But this number is irrelevant if the translation is mechanical
and flawed. I can cite numerous example where it is easy to get lost in
numbers and chase wrong targets.

Many of us who shared differing views do work with and appreciate Malayalam
Wikipedians on various things. So, please do not take this as a view against
Malayalam Wikipedia.

All izz well :)

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Malayalam wikipedia crossed the 10 Lakh/1 million edits milestone

2011-01-27 Thread BalaSundaraRaman
Praveen,

You've shown how much insight we can glean by provoking Malayalam Wiki friends. 
;)
We all got a great inside view of the different aspects of participation in one 
of the finest Indian wikis.

 So if anybody believes that Malayalam Wikipedia is irrelevant, I welcome 
them to there to check its irrelevancy and contribute their home 

 wikii until it become irrelevant like Malayalam Wikipedia. :)

I don't think anyone doubted that.

- Sundar

 That language is an instrument of human reason, and not merely a medium for 
the expression of thought, is a truth generally admitted.
- George Boole, quoted in Iverson's Turing Award Lecture



From: praveenp me.prav...@gmail.com
To: Discussion list on Indian language projects of Wikimedia. 
wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Sent: Thu, January 27, 2011 5:58:25 PM
Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Malayalam wikipedia crossed the 10 Lakh/1 
million edits milestone

 On Thursday 27 January 2011 10:31 AM, Ravishankar wrote: 
Its not just about stubs. 

We have users in Tamil Wikipedia who bulk upload 100s of complete   
articles 
they wrote offline with just one edit per article. One   great article 
can 
be uploaded in one click and one mediocre   article can have 100s of 
edits. 


According to 

http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/List_of_Wikipedias

Depths above 300 for Wikipedias below 100 000 articles have been 
automatically dismissed as irrelevant.


When we focus on number of articles, some end up creating useless 
stubs. 
The same should not happen when we focus on edit counts. 


Ravi

This may be nothing related to original thread. Sorry. Malayalam wikipedia 
has its strength and its weakness.

Depth is just an indicator of collaborative character of editors. For a 
massive multiauthor collaboration site, some measurement mechanism is 
better 
than none. But I don't think large number of edits are bad. If anyone 
thinks 
that articel by single edit is better than multi edited article, I must say 
thats not wiki style :( . 


But there is an another issue, number of bot edits. Many ml users, mainly 
students, like to play with bots. Malayalam Wikipedia has never discouraged 
anyone for testing their bots (if their edits are okay), because user 
satisfaction is also a Wikipedia goal. We know that eventually they will 
create a great bot :).  Sometimes running a bot is not very simple. I had a 
spell checker bot and I had to overview all of its edits, because of 
Malayalam's ligatures and grammatical rules [or may be because bad logic 
;-)]. Even after running couple of months, it threw exceptions. So I'll say 
bot edits also are a kind of manual inputs. Now there are many global bots, 

most of them contributing interwiki. Bot conflict and bot-edit-war occurs 
occasionally which we usually avoided by protecting the page or by noticing 
the owner (Recent eg: See   history of വർഗ്ഗം:ഫലകങ്ങൾ). 


Malayalam Wikipedia is a small wiki, just over 16000 pages on main 
namespace, so it is easy to exaggerate bot contribution. But actually it is 
not, whenever a bot identified as doing  unwanted edit it gets blocked.

There are many wiki-projects which always engage users to do something on 
wiki. So whenever a user find an error, even it is the minute one, he/she 
corrects it. Nobody waits for large content to edit. Many portal (കവാടം) 
pages are there, which helps users to find their favourite topic.

In ml.wp - many pages in category namespace (there is an active 
categorization wiki-project, which keeps articles finely categorized), 
large 
number of templates and many help pages and project pages with good content 
(I'm sure that many of these help pages and project pages are really useful 
to new users to jump start wikipedia) are available. I think we are using 
talk pages aslo very well. 


It is clear from depth formula, that all these factors can be incremental 
to 
depth. So if anybody believes that Malayalam Wikipedia is irrelevant, I 
welcome them to there to check its irrelevancy and contribute their home 
wikii until it become irrelevant like Malayalam Wikipedia. :)___
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Malayalam wikipedia crossed the 10 Lakh/1 million edits milestone

2011-01-27 Thread Arjuna Rao Chavala
On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 9:07 AM, Shiju Alex shijualexonl...@gmail.comwrote:

 *Number of edits per article measure* may not be meaningful comparison,
 when comparing wikipedias, as each language wikipedia follows its own
 policies with regard to stub articles.



 Great.

 Arjuna, Kindly share the policy of Telugu Wikipedia with regard to stub
 articles. I am sure other Indian language wikipedias will benefit from it.

 Stubs are not discouraged on Telugu wiki whether they are manually created
or  bot created. Since the measure is a ratio with number of articles in the
denominator, the value will be low, when a Wikipedia has lots of stub
articles. On Telugu wikipedia, the large number of  village articles created
in 2007-2008 with help of a bot skew this measure.

Cheers
Arjun
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Malayalam wikipedia crossed the 10 Lakh/1 million edits milestone

2011-01-27 Thread Shiju Alex
In fact, bot edits in Indian Wikis is also an interesting metric. For
example, see the below table to understand share of the *percentage of bot
edits* across some major Indian wikis.

   - Bengali - 76
   - Bishnupriya Manipuri  - 97
   - Gujarati  - 37
   - Hindi - 50
   - Kannada - 59
   - Malayalam -  42
   - Marathi  - 62
   - Sanskrit - 85
   - Tamil - 51
   - Telugu - 51
   - Urdu  - 59

I know that for some Indian language wikipedians the only relevant metric is
*number of articles*. But of course, not for the Malayalam wikipedians. We
saw much value in all the metric that is published at
http://stats.wikimedia.org/. I know many others are also finding value to
it, that is why it is published every month.

Shiju Alex



On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 6:33 PM, BalaSundaraRaman sundarbe...@yahoo.comwrote:

 Praveen,

 You've shown how much insight we can glean by provoking Malayalam Wiki
 friends. ;)
 We all got a great inside view of the different aspects of participation in
 one of the finest Indian wikis.


  So if anybody believes that Malayalam Wikipedia is irrelevant, I welcome
 them to there to check its irrelevancy and contribute their home
  wikii until it become irrelevant like Malayalam Wikipedia. :)

 I don't think anyone doubted that.


 - Sundar

 That language is an instrument of human reason, and not merely a medium
 for the expression of thought, is a truth generally admitted.
 - George Boole, quoted in Iverson's Turing Award Lecture


 *From:* praveenp me.prav...@gmail.com

 *To:* Discussion list on Indian language projects of Wikimedia. 
 wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
 *Sent:* Thu, January 27, 2011 5:58:25 PM
 *Subject:* Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Malayalam wikipedia crossed the 10
 Lakh/1 million edits milestone

 On Thursday 27 January 2011 10:31 AM, Ravishankar wrote:

 Its not just about stubs.

 We have users in Tamil Wikipedia who bulk upload 100s of complete articles
 they wrote offline with just one edit per article. One great article can be
 uploaded in one click and one mediocre article can have 100s of edits.

 According to

 http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/List_of_Wikipedias

 *Depths above 300 for 
 Wikipediashttp://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/List_of_Wikipedias#Notesbelow 100 
 000 articles have been automatically dismissed as irrelevant.
 *
 When we focus on number of articles, some end up creating useless stubs.
 The same should not happen when we focus on edit counts.

 Ravi

 This may be nothing related to original thread. Sorry. Malayalam wikipedia
 has its strength and its weakness.

 Depth is just an indicator of collaborative character of editors. For a
 massive multiauthor collaboration site, some measurement mechanism is better
 than none. But I don't think large number of edits are bad. If anyone thinks
 that articel by single edit is better than multi edited article, I must say
 thats not wiki style :( .

 But there is an another issue, number of bot edits. Many ml users, mainly
 students, like to play with bots. Malayalam Wikipedia has never discouraged
 anyone for testing their bots (if their edits are okay), because user
 satisfaction is also a Wikipedia goal. We know that eventually they will
 create a great bot :).  Sometimes running a bot is not very simple. I had a
 spell checker bot and I had to overview all of its edits, because of
 Malayalam's ligatures and grammatical rules [or may be because bad logic
 ;-)]. Even after running couple of months, it threw exceptions. So I'll say
 bot edits also are a kind of manual inputs. Now there are many global bots,
 most of them contributing interwiki. Bot conflict and bot-edit-war occurs
 occasionally which we usually avoided by protecting the page or by noticing
 the owner (Recent eg: See history of 
 വർഗ്ഗം:ഫലകങ്ങൾhttp://ml.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%E0%B4%B5%E0%B5%BC%E0%B4%97%E0%B5%8D%E0%B4%97%E0%B4%82:%E0%B4%AB%E0%B4%B2%E0%B4%95%E0%B4%99%E0%B5%8D%E0%B4%99%E0%B5%BEaction=history).


 Malayalam Wikipedia is a small wiki, just over 16000 pages on main
 namespace, so it is easy to exaggerate bot contribution. But actually it is
 not, whenever a bot identified as doing  unwanted edit it gets blocked.

 There are many wiki-projects which always engage users to do something on
 wiki. So whenever a user find an error, even it is the minute one, he/she
 corrects it. Nobody waits for large content to edit. Many portal (കവാടം)
 pages are there, which helps users to find their favourite topic.

 In ml.wp - many pages in category namespace (there is an active
 categorization wiki-project, which keeps articles finely categorized), large
 number of templates and many help pages and project pages with good content
 (I'm sure that many of these help pages and project pages are really useful
 to new users to jump start wikipedia) are available. I think we are using
 talk pages aslo very well.

 It is clear from depth formula, that all these factors can be incremental
 to depth. So if anybody believes that Malayalam

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Malayalam wikipedia crossed the 10 Lakh/1 million edits milestone

2011-01-27 Thread mayur
Hi,
i am mayur an hindi wikipedian, we are  going to do an survey regarding
wikipedia's quality bsaed on verious factors very soon by this you all can
compare quality of all wikipedias including english wiki.

Thank you
Mayur

On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 8:12 PM, Shiju Alex shijualexonl...@gmail.comwrote:

 In fact, bot edits in Indian Wikis is also an interesting metric. For
 example, see the below table to understand share of the *percentage of bot
 edits* across some major Indian wikis.

- Bengali - 76
- Bishnupriya Manipuri  - 97
- Gujarati  - 37
- Hindi - 50
- Kannada - 59
- Malayalam -  42
- Marathi  - 62
- Sanskrit - 85
- Tamil - 51
- Telugu - 51
- Urdu  - 59

 I know that for some Indian language wikipedians the only relevant metric
 is *number of articles*. But of course, not for the Malayalam wikipedians.
 We saw much value in all the metric that is published at
 http://stats.wikimedia.org/. I know many others are also finding value to
 it, that is why it is published every month.

 Shiju Alex



   On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 6:33 PM, BalaSundaraRaman sundarbe...@yahoo.com
  wrote:

   Praveen,

 You've shown how much insight we can glean by provoking Malayalam Wiki
 friends. ;)
 We all got a great inside view of the different aspects of participation
 in one of the finest Indian wikis.


  So if anybody believes that Malayalam Wikipedia is irrelevant, I welcome
 them to there to check its irrelevancy and contribute their home
  wikii until it become irrelevant like Malayalam Wikipedia. :)

 I don't think anyone doubted that.


 - Sundar

 That language is an instrument of human reason, and not merely a medium
 for the expression of thought, is a truth generally admitted.
 - George Boole, quoted in Iverson's Turing Award Lecture


 *From:* praveenp me.prav...@gmail.com

 *To:* Discussion list on Indian language projects of Wikimedia. 
 wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
 *Sent:* Thu, January 27, 2011 5:58:25 PM
 *Subject:* Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Malayalam wikipedia crossed the 10
 Lakh/1 million edits milestone

 On Thursday 27 January 2011 10:31 AM, Ravishankar wrote:

 Its not just about stubs.

 We have users in Tamil Wikipedia who bulk upload 100s of complete articles
 they wrote offline with just one edit per article. One great article can be
 uploaded in one click and one mediocre article can have 100s of edits.

 According to

 http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/List_of_Wikipedias

 *Depths above 300 for 
 Wikipediashttp://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/List_of_Wikipedias#Notesbelow 100 
 000 articles have been automatically dismissed as irrelevant.
 *
 When we focus on number of articles, some end up creating useless stubs.
 The same should not happen when we focus on edit counts.

 Ravi

 This may be nothing related to original thread. Sorry. Malayalam wikipedia
 has its strength and its weakness.

 Depth is just an indicator of collaborative character of editors. For a
 massive multiauthor collaboration site, some measurement mechanism is better
 than none. But I don't think large number of edits are bad. If anyone thinks
 that articel by single edit is better than multi edited article, I must say
 thats not wiki style :( .

 But there is an another issue, number of bot edits. Many ml users, mainly
 students, like to play with bots. Malayalam Wikipedia has never discouraged
 anyone for testing their bots (if their edits are okay), because user
 satisfaction is also a Wikipedia goal. We know that eventually they will
 create a great bot :).  Sometimes running a bot is not very simple. I had a
 spell checker bot and I had to overview all of its edits, because of
 Malayalam's ligatures and grammatical rules [or may be because bad logic
 ;-)]. Even after running couple of months, it threw exceptions. So I'll say
 bot edits also are a kind of manual inputs. Now there are many global bots,
 most of them contributing interwiki. Bot conflict and bot-edit-war occurs
 occasionally which we usually avoided by protecting the page or by noticing
 the owner (Recent eg: See history of 
 വർഗ്ഗം:ഫലകങ്ങൾhttp://ml.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%E0%B4%B5%E0%B5%BC%E0%B4%97%E0%B5%8D%E0%B4%97%E0%B4%82:%E0%B4%AB%E0%B4%B2%E0%B4%95%E0%B4%99%E0%B5%8D%E0%B4%99%E0%B5%BEaction=history).


 Malayalam Wikipedia is a small wiki, just over 16000 pages on main
 namespace, so it is easy to exaggerate bot contribution. But actually it is
 not, whenever a bot identified as doing  unwanted edit it gets blocked.

 There are many wiki-projects which always engage users to do something on
 wiki. So whenever a user find an error, even it is the minute one, he/she
 corrects it. Nobody waits for large content to edit. Many portal (കവാടം)
 pages are there, which helps users to find their favourite topic.

 In ml.wp - many pages in category namespace (there is an active
 categorization wiki-project, which keeps articles finely categorized), large
 number of templates and many help pages and project

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Malayalam wikipedia crossed the 10 Lakh/1 million edits milestone

2011-01-26 Thread Arjuna Rao Chavala
2011/1/25 Shiju Alex shijualexonl...@gmail.com

 Dear All,

 I am happy to announce that Malayalam wikipedia has crossed the *10 Lakh
 (1 million) edits* milestone on *2011 January 22*. Malayalam wikipedia is
 the *first Indian language wikipedia to cross the 10 Lakh milestone*.

 Congratulations to the vibrant Malayalam community on this important
milestone. Best wishes for  future.

 With almost 250 active 
 editorshttp://ml.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%B4%AA%E0%B5%8D%E0%B4%B0%E0%B4%A4%E0%B5%8D%E0%B4%AF%E0%B5%87%E0%B4%95%E0%B4%82:%E0%B4%B8%E0%B5%8D%E0%B4%A5%E0%B4%BF%E0%B4%A4%E0%B4%BF%E0%B4%B5%E0%B4%BF%E0%B4%B5%E0%B4%B0%E0%B4%82Malayalam
  wiki community continues to be one of the most active Indian Wiki
 community. That is the the main reason behind this achievement. Malayalam
 wikipedia also has the *most number of edits per article *(more than 30)
 among all theIndian wikis.

--snip--


*Number of edits per article measure* may not be meaningful comparison, when
comparing wikipedias, as each language wikipedia follows its own policies
with regard to stub articles.

Thanks for the statistics on the language wikipedias.

Cheers
Arjun
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Malayalam wikipedia crossed the 10 Lakh/1 million edits milestone

2011-01-26 Thread CherianTinu Abraham
What probably Arjuna meant was that, some of Wikipedias are more welcoming
to the creation of stub articles. I am not saying that Malayalam
Wikipedia doesn't though...

-Tinu Cherian

On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 9:07 AM, Shiju Alex shijualexonl...@gmail.comwrote:

 *Number of edits per article measure* may not be meaningful comparison,
 when comparing wikipedias, as each language wikipedia follows its own
 policies with regard to stub articles.



 Great.

 Arjuna, Kindly share the policy of Telugu Wikipedia with regard to stub
 articles. I am sure other Indian language wikipedias will benefit from it.



 Shiju


 On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 2:51 PM, Arjuna Rao Chavala 
 arjunar...@googlemail.com wrote:



 2011/1/25 Shiju Alex shijualexonl...@gmail.com

 Dear All,


 I am happy to announce that Malayalam wikipedia has crossed the *10 Lakh
 (1 million) edits* milestone on *2011 January 22*. Malayalam wikipedia
 is the *first Indian language wikipedia to cross the 10 Lakh milestone*.


 Congratulations to the vibrant Malayalam community on this important
 milestone. Best wishes for  future.

 With almost 250 active 
 editorshttp://ml.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%B4%AA%E0%B5%8D%E0%B4%B0%E0%B4%A4%E0%B5%8D%E0%B4%AF%E0%B5%87%E0%B4%95%E0%B4%82:%E0%B4%B8%E0%B5%8D%E0%B4%A5%E0%B4%BF%E0%B4%A4%E0%B4%BF%E0%B4%B5%E0%B4%BF%E0%B4%B5%E0%B4%B0%E0%B4%82Malayalam
  wiki community continues to be one of the most active Indian Wiki
 community. That is the the main reason behind this achievement. Malayalam
 wikipedia also has the *most number of edits per article *(more than 30)
 among all theIndian wikis.

 --snip--


 *Number of edits per article measure* may not be meaningful comparison,
 when comparing wikipedias, as each language wikipedia follows its own
 policies with regard to stub articles.

 Thanks for the statistics on the language wikipedias.

 Cheers
 Arjun


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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Malayalam wikipedia crossed the 10 Lakh/1 million edits milestone

2011-01-26 Thread Ravishankar
Its not just about stubs.

We have users in Tamil Wikipedia who bulk upload 100s of complete articles
they wrote offline with just one edit per article. One great article can be
uploaded in one click and one mediocre article can have 100s of edits.

According to

http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/List_of_Wikipedias

*Depths above 300 for
Wikipediashttp://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/List_of_Wikipedias#Notesbelow
100 000 articles have been automatically dismissed as irrelevant.
*
When we focus on number of articles, some end up creating useless stubs. The
same should not happen when we focus on edit counts.

Ravi


On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 10:18 AM, CherianTinu Abraham tinucher...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 What probably Arjuna meant was that, some of Wikipedias are more welcoming
 to the creation of stub articles. I am not saying that Malayalam
 Wikipedia doesn't though...

 -Tinu Cherian



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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Malayalam wikipedia crossed the 10 Lakh/1 million edits milestone

2011-01-26 Thread Shiju Alex

 We have users in Tamil Wikipedia who bulk upload 100s of complete articles
 they wrote offline with just one edit per article.


That happens in all the wikipedias which has an active community. That might
also be possible with the the Google translation project.

In general, quality of a wiki article improves as more people work on it.
More edits from more number of users means more quality on the wiki article.
Otherwise there is no difference between a knol/blogpost and a wiki article.
:)


 *Depths above 300 for 
 Wikipediashttp://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/List_of_Wikipedias#Notesbelow 100 
 000 articles have been automatically dismissed as irrelevant.
 *


Who has mentioned about the depth in the below mail?

When we focus on number of articles, some end up creating useless stubs. The
 same should not happen when we focus on edit counts.


Yes. All wikis has stubs and almost of the articles are created as stub
articles.

Shiju











On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 10:31 AM, Ravishankar ravidre...@gmail.com wrote:

 Its not just about stubs.

 We have users in Tamil Wikipedia who bulk upload 100s of complete articles
 they wrote offline with just one edit per article. One great article can be
 uploaded in one click and one mediocre article can have 100s of edits.

 According to

 http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/List_of_Wikipedias

 *Depths above 300 for 
 Wikipediashttp://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/List_of_Wikipedias#Notesbelow 100 
 000 articles have been automatically dismissed as irrelevant.
 *
 When we focus on number of articles, some end up creating useless stubs.
 The same should not happen when we focus on edit counts.

 Ravi



 On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 10:18 AM, CherianTinu Abraham 
 tinucher...@gmail.com wrote:

 What probably Arjuna meant was that, some of Wikipedias are more welcoming
 to the creation of stub articles. I am not saying that Malayalam
 Wikipedia doesn't though...

 -Tinu Cherian





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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Malayalam wikipedia crossed the 10 Lakh/1 million edits milestone

2011-01-26 Thread CherianTinu Abraham
Although page depth was not really connected with the current
trend,  Personally, I think page depth is *no longer a reliable* metric for
comparison, here is why I think so.

Assamese Wikipedia ( 312 articles) : page depth is 339 .
Sindi ( 355 articles): 381

Compare this with
Bengali ( 22,062 articles) : 374
Malayalam ( 16,414 articles) : 320

It is self-explanatory...

Technically 1 million edits is a cute milestone ( congrats to ml wiki) to
take notice, but we cannot consider it as real metric for comparison among
Wikipedias. There are language Wikipedias where Google translation/Machine
translations or bot created articles are banned or controlled tightly. There
are Wikipedias, where they have a free run. Please note that I am not saying
taht they are either good or bad. There are Wikipedias where constant
updation of articles happening, due a vibrant Wikicommunity. There are
Wikipedians who like to work on the articles offline and then bring it live
with a single edit.

Having said that, it is advisable to do what each community feels best for
their language Wikipedia. Of course, it is good to have an healthy
competition :)

But everybody, please do continue to report such interesting milestones and
statistics. We all love that...

-Tinu Cherian

On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 10:45 AM, Shiju Alex shijualexonl...@gmail.comwrote:

 We have users in Tamil Wikipedia who bulk upload 100s of complete articles
 they wrote offline with just one edit per article.


 That happens in all the wikipedias which has an active community. That
 might also be possible with the the Google translation project.

 In general, quality of a wiki article improves as more people work on it.
 More edits from more number of users means more quality on the wiki article.
 Otherwise there is no difference between a knol/blogpost and a wiki article.
 :)



 *Depths above 300 for 
 Wikipediashttp://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/List_of_Wikipedias#Notesbelow 100 
 000 articles have been automatically dismissed as irrelevant.
 *


 Who has mentioned about the depth in the below mail?


 When we focus on number of articles, some end up creating useless stubs.
 The same should not happen when we focus on edit counts.


 Yes. All wikis has stubs and almost of the articles are created as stub
 articles.

 Shiju











 On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 10:31 AM, Ravishankar ravidre...@gmail.comwrote:

 Its not just about stubs.

 We have users in Tamil Wikipedia who bulk upload 100s of complete articles
 they wrote offline with just one edit per article. One great article can be
 uploaded in one click and one mediocre article can have 100s of edits.

 According to

 http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/List_of_Wikipedias

 *Depths above 300 for 
 Wikipediashttp://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/List_of_Wikipedias#Notesbelow 100 
 000 articles have been automatically dismissed as irrelevant.
 *
 When we focus on number of articles, some end up creating useless stubs.
 The same should not happen when we focus on edit counts.

 Ravi



 On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 10:18 AM, CherianTinu Abraham 
 tinucher...@gmail.com wrote:

 What probably Arjuna meant was that, some of Wikipedias are more
 welcoming to the creation of stub articles. I am not saying that Malayalam
 Wikipedia doesn't though...

 -Tinu Cherian





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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Malayalam wikipedia crossed the 10 Lakh/1 million edits milestone

2011-01-26 Thread Anirudh Bhati
On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 11:45 AM, CherianTinu Abraham
tinucher...@gmail.com wrote:

 Technically 1 million edits is a cute milestone ( congrats to ml wiki)

+1 Congratulations! :)

anirudh



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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Malayalam wikipedia crossed the 10 Lakh/1 million edits milestone

2011-01-26 Thread Hari Prasad Nadig
On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 11:45 AM, CherianTinu Abraham tinucher...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Although page depth was not really connected with the current
 trend,  Personally, I think page depth is *no longer a reliable* metric
 for comparison, here is why I think so.

 Assamese Wikipedia ( 312 articles) : page depth is 339 .
 Sindi ( 355 articles): 381

 Compare this with
 Bengali ( 22,062 articles) : 374
 Malayalam ( 16,414 articles) : 320

 It is self-explanatory...

 Technically 1 million edits is a cute milestone ( congrats to ml wiki) to
 take notice, but we cannot consider it as real metric for comparison among
 Wikipedias. There are language Wikipedias where Google translation/Machine
 translations or bot created articles are banned or controlled tightly. There
 are Wikipedias, where they have a free run. Please note that I am not saying
 taht they are either good or bad. There are Wikipedias where constant
 updation of articles happening, due a vibrant Wikicommunity. There are
 Wikipedians who like to work on the articles offline and then bring it live
 with a single edit.

 Having said that, it is advisable to do what each community feels best for
 their language Wikipedia. Of course, it is good to have an healthy
 competition :)

 But everybody, please do continue to report such interesting milestones and
 statistics. We all love that..


Agree with Tinu. Congratulations on the progress though. Indeed, it is good
to have healthy competition.

-- 
Hari Prasad Nadig
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Malayalam wikipedia crossed the 10 Lakh/1 million edits milestone

2011-01-26 Thread BalaSundaraRaman
+1. Yes, milestones are nice things to celebrate, but not something to start 
regarding as a metric.

- Sundar

 That language is an instrument of human reason, and not merely a medium for 
the expression of thought, is a truth generally admitted.
- George Boole, quoted in Iverson's Turing Award Lecture



From: CherianTinu Abraham tinucher...@gmail.com
To: Discussion list on Indian language projects of Wikimedia. 
wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Sent: Thu, January 27, 2011 11:45:17 AM
Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Malayalam wikipedia crossed the 10 Lakh/1 
million edits milestone

Although page depth was not really connected with the current 
trend,  Personally, I think page depth is no longer a reliable metric for 
comparison, here is why I think so.


Assamese Wikipedia ( 312 articles) : page depth is 339 . 
Sindi ( 355 articles): 381


Compare this with 
Bengali ( 22,062 articles) : 374
Malayalam ( 16,414 articles) : 320


It is self-explanatory...


Technically 1 million edits is a cute milestone ( congrats to ml wiki) to take 
notice, but we cannot consider it as real metric for comparison among 
Wikipedias. There are language Wikipedias where Google translation/Machine 
translations or bot created articles are banned or controlled tightly. There 
are Wikipedias, where they have a free run. Please note that I am not saying 
taht they are either good or bad. There are Wikipedias where constant updation 
of articles happening, due a vibrant Wikicommunity. There are Wikipedians who 
like to work on the articles offline and then bring it live with a single 
edit. 


Having said that, it is advisable to do what each community feels best for 
their 
language Wikipedia. Of course, it is good to have an healthy competition :)


But everybody, please do continue to report such interesting milestones and 
statistics. We all love that...


-Tinu Cherian 


On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 10:45 AM, Shiju Alex shijualexonl...@gmail.com wrote:

We have users in Tamil Wikipedia who bulk upload 100s of complete articles 
they 
wrote offline with just one edit per article. 


That happens in all the wikipedias which has an active community. That might 
also be possible with the the Google translation project. 


In general, quality of a wiki article improves as more people work on it. 
More 
edits from more number of users means more quality on the wiki article. 
Otherwise there is no difference between a knol/blogpost and a wiki article. 
:)

  

Depths above 300 for Wikipedias below 100 000 articles have been 
automatically 
dismissed as irrelevant.

Who has mentioned about the depth in the below mail?



When we focus on number of articles, some end up creating useless stubs.  The 
same should not happen when we focus on edit counts. 

Yes. All wikis has stubs and almost of the articles are created as stub 
articles. 


Shiju













On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 10:31 AM, Ravishankar ravidre...@gmail.com wrote:

Its not just about stubs. 

We have users in Tamil Wikipedia who bulk upload 100s of complete articles 
they 
wrote offline with just one edit per article. One great article can be 
uploaded 
in one click and one mediocre article can have 100s of edits. 


According to 


http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/List_of_Wikipedias

Depths above 300 for Wikipedias below 100 000 articles have been 
automatically 
dismissed as irrelevant.


When we focus on number of articles, some end up creating useless stubs. The 
same should not happen when we focus on edit counts. 


Ravi



On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 10:18 AM, CherianTinu Abraham tinucher...@gmail.com 
wrote:

What probably Arjuna meant was that, some of Wikipedias are more welcoming to 
the creation of stub articles. I am not saying that Malayalam 
Wikipedia doesn't though... 


-Tinu Cherian 






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[Wikimediaindia-l] Malayalam wikipedia crossed the 10 Lakh/1 million edits milestone

2011-01-25 Thread Shiju Alex
Dear All,

I am happy to announce that Malayalam wikipedia has crossed the *10 Lakh (1
million) edits* milestone on *2011 January 22*. Malayalam wikipedia is
the *first
Indian language wikipedia to cross the 10 Lakh milestone*.

With almost 250 active
editorshttp://ml.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%B4%AA%E0%B5%8D%E0%B4%B0%E0%B4%A4%E0%B5%8D%E0%B4%AF%E0%B5%87%E0%B4%95%E0%B4%82:%E0%B4%B8%E0%B5%8D%E0%B4%A5%E0%B4%BF%E0%B4%A4%E0%B4%BF%E0%B4%B5%E0%B4%BF%E0%B4%B5%E0%B4%B0%E0%B4%82Malayalam
wiki community continues to be one of the most active Indian Wiki
community. That is the the main reason behind this achievement. Malayalam
wikipedia also has the *most number of edits per article *(more than 30)
among all theIndian wikis.

The information about the *total number of the edits* in some of the major
active wikis is provided below.

  Language wikipedia Number of edits since the wiki is set up  Malayalam
1002375  Hindi 913612  Tamil 688891  Marathi 665774  Telugu 578760  Urdu
376948  Kannada 186771  Gujarati  133134  Sanskrit 101517
Data is collected on 2011 January 24.



Thanks
Shiju Alex



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സുഹൃത്തുക്കളേ,

ഒരു സന്തോഷ വാർത്ത നിങ്ങളെ എല്ലാവരെയും അറിയിക്കുകയാണ്. മലയാളം വിക്കിപീഡിയയിൽ
10 ലക്ഷം തിരുത്തലുകൾ (Edits) തികഞ്ഞിരിക്കുന്നു. ഇക്കഴിഞ്ഞ ജനുവരി
22-നായിരുന്നു 10 ലക്ഷം തിരുത്തലുകൾ തികഞ്ഞത്. ഈ കടമ്പ കടക്കുന്ന അമ്പത്തി
ഒന്നാമത്തെ വിക്കിപീഡിയയാണ് മലയാളം[1]. ഈ കടമ്പ കടന്ന ഏക ഇന്ത്യൻ
വിക്കിപീഡിയയും മലയാളമാണ്[1].

ലേഖനങ്ങളുടെ എണ്ണം വർദ്ധിപ്പിക്കുക എന്നത് പ്രാഥമികമായ ലക്ഷ്യമാക്കാതെ,
കാമ്പുള്ള ലേഖനങ്ങൾ സൃഷ്ടിക്കുക എന്ന ലക്ഷ്യത്തോടെ പ്രവർത്തിക്കുന്നതിന്റെ
ഫലമായാണ് ഏറ്റവും കൂടുതൽ ഡെപ്ത് ഉള്ള ഇന്ത്യൻ വിക്കിപീഡിയയും ഏറ്റവും കൂടുതൽ
തിരുത്തലുകൾ നടത്തിയ ഇന്ത്യൻ വിക്കിപീഡിയയും മലയാളമായത്. ഈ സ്ഥാനം എന്നെന്നും
നിലനിർത്തിപ്പോരാൻ നിങ്ങൾ ഓരോരുത്തരുടെയും സഹകരണം ആവശ്യമാണ്.

മറ്റു പ്രധാന ഇന്ത്യൻ ഭാഷാ വിക്കിപീഡിയയിലെ  തിരുത്തലുകളുടെ എണ്ണം കാണുക.

  *ഭാഷ (language)* *   തിരുത്തലുകളുടെ എണ്ണം (Number of edits
since wiki is set up)
*  മലയാളം  (Malayalam) 1002375  ബംഗാളി  (bengali)
922606  ഹിന്ദി  (Hindi) 913612  തമിഴ്  (Tamil) 688891  മറാത്തി (Marathi)
665774  തെലുഗ് (Telugu)
578760  ഉർദു (Urdu) 376948  കന്നഡ (Kannada) 186771  ഗുജറാത്തി (Gujarati)
133134  സംസ്കൃതം (Sanskrit)
101517
[1]

ഈ നേട്ടത്തിൽ പങ്കാളിയായ എല്ലാവർക്കും നന്ദി.

*അവലംബം*
1. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/List_of_Wikipedias



അനൂപ്

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Malayalam wikipedia crossed the 10 Lakh/1 million edits milestone

2011-01-25 Thread Shiju Alex
Sorry, missed Bengali wikipedia from the below list.

Bengali wikipedia has *9,22,606* edits. It is placed in the second position
after Malayalam.

Shiju




2011/1/25 Shiju Alex shijualexonl...@gmail.com

 Dear All,

 I am happy to announce that Malayalam wikipedia has crossed the *10 Lakh
 (1 million) edits* milestone on *2011 January 22*. Malayalam wikipedia is
 the *first Indian language wikipedia to cross the 10 Lakh milestone*.

 With almost 250 active 
 editorshttp://ml.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%B4%AA%E0%B5%8D%E0%B4%B0%E0%B4%A4%E0%B5%8D%E0%B4%AF%E0%B5%87%E0%B4%95%E0%B4%82:%E0%B4%B8%E0%B5%8D%E0%B4%A5%E0%B4%BF%E0%B4%A4%E0%B4%BF%E0%B4%B5%E0%B4%BF%E0%B4%B5%E0%B4%B0%E0%B4%82Malayalam
  wiki community continues to be one of the most active Indian Wiki
 community. That is the the main reason behind this achievement. Malayalam
 wikipedia also has the *most number of edits per article *(more than 30)
 among all theIndian wikis.

 The information about the *total number of the edits* in some of the major
 active wikis is provided below.

   Language wikipedia Number of edits since the wiki is set up  Malayalam
 1002375  Hindi 913612  Tamil 688891  Marathi 665774  Telugu 578760  Urdu
 376948  Kannada 186771  Gujarati  133134  Sanskrit 101517
 Data is collected on 2011 January 24.



 Thanks
 Shiju Alex



 -- Forwarded message --
 From: Anoop anoop@gmail.com
 Date: 2011/1/25
 Subject: [Wikiml-l] മലയാളം വിക്കിപീഡിയയിൽ 10 ലക്ഷം എഡിറ്റുകൾ
 To: Malayalam wiki project mailing list wikim...@lists.wikimedia.org


 സുഹൃത്തുക്കളേ,

 ഒരു സന്തോഷ വാർത്ത നിങ്ങളെ എല്ലാവരെയും അറിയിക്കുകയാണ്. മലയാളം വിക്കിപീഡിയയിൽ
 10 ലക്ഷം തിരുത്തലുകൾ (Edits) തികഞ്ഞിരിക്കുന്നു. ഇക്കഴിഞ്ഞ ജനുവരി
 22-നായിരുന്നു 10 ലക്ഷം തിരുത്തലുകൾ തികഞ്ഞത്. ഈ കടമ്പ കടക്കുന്ന അമ്പത്തി
 ഒന്നാമത്തെ വിക്കിപീഡിയയാണ് മലയാളം[1]. ഈ കടമ്പ കടന്ന ഏക ഇന്ത്യൻ
 വിക്കിപീഡിയയും മലയാളമാണ്[1].

 ലേഖനങ്ങളുടെ എണ്ണം വർദ്ധിപ്പിക്കുക എന്നത് പ്രാഥമികമായ ലക്ഷ്യമാക്കാതെ,
 കാമ്പുള്ള ലേഖനങ്ങൾ സൃഷ്ടിക്കുക എന്ന ലക്ഷ്യത്തോടെ പ്രവർത്തിക്കുന്നതിന്റെ
 ഫലമായാണ് ഏറ്റവും കൂടുതൽ ഡെപ്ത് ഉള്ള ഇന്ത്യൻ വിക്കിപീഡിയയും ഏറ്റവും കൂടുതൽ
 തിരുത്തലുകൾ നടത്തിയ ഇന്ത്യൻ വിക്കിപീഡിയയും മലയാളമായത്. ഈ സ്ഥാനം എന്നെന്നും
 നിലനിർത്തിപ്പോരാൻ നിങ്ങൾ ഓരോരുത്തരുടെയും സഹകരണം ആവശ്യമാണ്.

 മറ്റു പ്രധാന ഇന്ത്യൻ ഭാഷാ വിക്കിപീഡിയയിലെ  തിരുത്തലുകളുടെ എണ്ണം കാണുക.

   *ഭാഷ (language)* *   തിരുത്തലുകളുടെ എണ്ണം (Number of
 edits since wiki is set up)
 *  മലയാളം  (Malayalam) 1002375  ബംഗാളി  (bengali)
 922606  ഹിന്ദി  (Hindi) 913612  തമിഴ്  (Tamil) 688891  മറാത്തി (Marathi)
 665774  തെലുഗ് (Telugu)
 578760  ഉർദു (Urdu) 376948  കന്നഡ (Kannada) 186771  ഗുജറാത്തി (Gujarati)
 133134  സംസ്കൃതം (Sanskrit)
 101517
 [1]

 ഈ നേട്ടത്തിൽ പങ്കാളിയായ എല്ലാവർക്കും നന്ദി.

 *അവലംബം*
 1. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/List_of_Wikipedias



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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Malayalam wikipedia crossed the 10 Lakh/1 million edits milestone

2011-01-25 Thread Gautam John
Wow! That is awesome news! Congratulations to the community!

Thank you.

Best,

Gautam

http://social.prathambooks.org/



2011/1/25 Shiju Alex shijualexonl...@gmail.com

 Sorry, missed Bengali wikipedia from the below list.

 Bengali wikipedia has *9,22,606* edits. It is placed in the second
 position after Malayalam.

 Shiju




 2011/1/25 Shiju Alex shijualexonl...@gmail.com

 Dear All,

 I am happy to announce that Malayalam wikipedia has crossed the *10 Lakh
 (1 million) edits* milestone on *2011 January 22*. Malayalam wikipedia is
 the *first Indian language wikipedia to cross the 10 Lakh milestone*.

 With almost 250 active 
 editorshttp://ml.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%B4%AA%E0%B5%8D%E0%B4%B0%E0%B4%A4%E0%B5%8D%E0%B4%AF%E0%B5%87%E0%B4%95%E0%B4%82:%E0%B4%B8%E0%B5%8D%E0%B4%A5%E0%B4%BF%E0%B4%A4%E0%B4%BF%E0%B4%B5%E0%B4%BF%E0%B4%B5%E0%B4%B0%E0%B4%82Malayalam
  wiki community continues to be one of the most active Indian Wiki
 community. That is the the main reason behind this achievement. Malayalam
 wikipedia also has the *most number of edits per article *(more than 30)
 among all theIndian wikis.

 The information about the *total number of the edits* in some of the
 major active wikis is provided below.

   Language wikipedia Number of edits since the wiki is set up  Malayalam
 1002375  Hindi 913612  Tamil 688891  Marathi 665774  Telugu 578760  Urdu
 376948  Kannada 186771  Gujarati  133134  Sanskrit 101517
 Data is collected on 2011 January 24.



 Thanks
 Shiju Alex



 -- Forwarded message --
 From: Anoop anoop@gmail.com
 Date: 2011/1/25
 Subject: [Wikiml-l] മലയാളം വിക്കിപീഡിയയിൽ 10 ലക്ഷം എഡിറ്റുകൾ
 To: Malayalam wiki project mailing list wikim...@lists.wikimedia.org


 സുഹൃത്തുക്കളേ,

 ഒരു സന്തോഷ വാർത്ത നിങ്ങളെ എല്ലാവരെയും അറിയിക്കുകയാണ്. മലയാളം
 വിക്കിപീഡിയയിൽ 10 ലക്ഷം തിരുത്തലുകൾ (Edits) തികഞ്ഞിരിക്കുന്നു. ഇക്കഴിഞ്ഞ
 ജനുവരി 22-നായിരുന്നു 10 ലക്ഷം തിരുത്തലുകൾ തികഞ്ഞത്. ഈ കടമ്പ കടക്കുന്ന
 അമ്പത്തി ഒന്നാമത്തെ വിക്കിപീഡിയയാണ് മലയാളം[1]. ഈ കടമ്പ കടന്ന ഏക ഇന്ത്യൻ
 വിക്കിപീഡിയയും മലയാളമാണ്[1].

 ലേഖനങ്ങളുടെ എണ്ണം വർദ്ധിപ്പിക്കുക എന്നത് പ്രാഥമികമായ ലക്ഷ്യമാക്കാതെ,
 കാമ്പുള്ള ലേഖനങ്ങൾ സൃഷ്ടിക്കുക എന്ന ലക്ഷ്യത്തോടെ പ്രവർത്തിക്കുന്നതിന്റെ
 ഫലമായാണ് ഏറ്റവും കൂടുതൽ ഡെപ്ത് ഉള്ള ഇന്ത്യൻ വിക്കിപീഡിയയും ഏറ്റവും കൂടുതൽ
 തിരുത്തലുകൾ നടത്തിയ ഇന്ത്യൻ വിക്കിപീഡിയയും മലയാളമായത്. ഈ സ്ഥാനം എന്നെന്നും
 നിലനിർത്തിപ്പോരാൻ നിങ്ങൾ ഓരോരുത്തരുടെയും സഹകരണം ആവശ്യമാണ്.

 മറ്റു പ്രധാന ഇന്ത്യൻ ഭാഷാ വിക്കിപീഡിയയിലെ  തിരുത്തലുകളുടെ എണ്ണം കാണുക.

   *ഭാഷ (language)* *   തിരുത്തലുകളുടെ എണ്ണം (Number of
 edits since wiki is set up)
 *  മലയാളം  (Malayalam) 1002375  ബംഗാളി  (bengali)
 922606  ഹിന്ദി  (Hindi) 913612  തമിഴ്  (Tamil) 688891  മറാത്തി (Marathi)
 665774  തെലുഗ് (Telugu)
 578760  ഉർദു (Urdu) 376948  കന്നഡ (Kannada) 186771  ഗുജറാത്തി (Gujarati)
 133134  സംസ്കൃതം (Sanskrit)
 101517
 [1]

 ഈ നേട്ടത്തിൽ പങ്കാളിയായ എല്ലാവർക്കും നന്ദി.

 *അവലംബം*
 1. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/List_of_Wikipedias



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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Malayalam wikipedia crossed the 10 Lakh/1 million edits milestone

2011-01-25 Thread Swaroop Rao
Many congratulations to the Malayalam Wiki community!

Swaroop Rao


2011/1/25 Asaf Bartov asaf.bar...@gmail.com

 That's fantastic news!

 It's very inspiring for all newer Wikipedias.

Asaf

 2011/1/25 Shiju Alex shijualexonl...@gmail.com

 Dear All,


 I am happy to announce that Malayalam wikipedia has crossed the *10 Lakh
 (1 million) edits* milestone on *2011 January 22*. Malayalam wikipedia is
 the *first Indian language wikipedia to cross the 10 Lakh milestone*.

 With almost 250 active 
 editorshttp://ml.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%B4%AA%E0%B5%8D%E0%B4%B0%E0%B4%A4%E0%B5%8D%E0%B4%AF%E0%B5%87%E0%B4%95%E0%B4%82:%E0%B4%B8%E0%B5%8D%E0%B4%A5%E0%B4%BF%E0%B4%A4%E0%B4%BF%E0%B4%B5%E0%B4%BF%E0%B4%B5%E0%B4%B0%E0%B4%82Malayalam
  wiki community continues to be one of the most active Indian Wiki
 community. That is the the main reason behind this achievement. Malayalam
 wikipedia also has the *most number of edits per article *(more than 30)
 among all theIndian wikis.

 The information about the *total number of the edits* in some of the
 major active wikis is provided below.

   Language wikipedia Number of edits since the wiki is set up  Malayalam
 1002375  Hindi 913612  Tamil 688891  Marathi 665774  Telugu 578760  Urdu
 376948  Kannada 186771  Gujarati  133134  Sanskrit 101517
 Data is collected on 2011 January 24.



 Thanks
 Shiju Alex



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 From: Anoop anoop@gmail.com
 Date: 2011/1/25
 Subject: [Wikiml-l] മലയാളം വിക്കിപീഡിയയിൽ 10 ലക്ഷം എഡിറ്റുകൾ
 To: Malayalam wiki project mailing list wikim...@lists.wikimedia.org


 സുഹൃത്തുക്കളേ,

 ഒരു സന്തോഷ വാർത്ത നിങ്ങളെ എല്ലാവരെയും അറിയിക്കുകയാണ്. മലയാളം
 വിക്കിപീഡിയയിൽ 10 ലക്ഷം തിരുത്തലുകൾ (Edits) തികഞ്ഞിരിക്കുന്നു. ഇക്കഴിഞ്ഞ
 ജനുവരി 22-നായിരുന്നു 10 ലക്ഷം തിരുത്തലുകൾ തികഞ്ഞത്. ഈ കടമ്പ കടക്കുന്ന
 അമ്പത്തി ഒന്നാമത്തെ വിക്കിപീഡിയയാണ് മലയാളം[1]. ഈ കടമ്പ കടന്ന ഏക ഇന്ത്യൻ
 വിക്കിപീഡിയയും മലയാളമാണ്[1].

 ലേഖനങ്ങളുടെ എണ്ണം വർദ്ധിപ്പിക്കുക എന്നത് പ്രാഥമികമായ ലക്ഷ്യമാക്കാതെ,
 കാമ്പുള്ള ലേഖനങ്ങൾ സൃഷ്ടിക്കുക എന്ന ലക്ഷ്യത്തോടെ പ്രവർത്തിക്കുന്നതിന്റെ
 ഫലമായാണ് ഏറ്റവും കൂടുതൽ ഡെപ്ത് ഉള്ള ഇന്ത്യൻ വിക്കിപീഡിയയും ഏറ്റവും കൂടുതൽ
 തിരുത്തലുകൾ നടത്തിയ ഇന്ത്യൻ വിക്കിപീഡിയയും മലയാളമായത്. ഈ സ്ഥാനം എന്നെന്നും
 നിലനിർത്തിപ്പോരാൻ നിങ്ങൾ ഓരോരുത്തരുടെയും സഹകരണം ആവശ്യമാണ്.

 മറ്റു പ്രധാന ഇന്ത്യൻ ഭാഷാ വിക്കിപീഡിയയിലെ  തിരുത്തലുകളുടെ എണ്ണം കാണുക.

   *ഭാഷ (language)* *   തിരുത്തലുകളുടെ എണ്ണം (Number of
 edits since wiki is set up)
 *  മലയാളം  (Malayalam) 1002375  ബംഗാളി  (bengali)
 922606  ഹിന്ദി  (Hindi) 913612  തമിഴ്  (Tamil) 688891  മറാത്തി (Marathi)
 665774  തെലുഗ് (Telugu)
 578760  ഉർദു (Urdu) 376948  കന്നഡ (Kannada) 186771  ഗുജറാത്തി (Gujarati)
 133134  സംസ്കൃതം (Sanskrit)
 101517
 [1]

 ഈ നേട്ടത്തിൽ പങ്കാളിയായ എല്ലാവർക്കും നന്ദി.

 *അവലംബം*
 1. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/List_of_Wikipedias



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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Malayalam wikipedia crossed the 10 Lakh/1 million edits milestone

2011-01-25 Thread Arun Ramarathnam
Hi Shiju,

Thanks for sharing this.

Congratulations to the vibrant Malayalam wikipedia community!
This is great to hear!

regards
Arun

2011/1/25 Shiju Alex shijualexonl...@gmail.com

 Dear All,

 I am happy to announce that Malayalam wikipedia has crossed the *10 Lakh
 (1 million) edits* milestone on *2011 January 22*. Malayalam wikipedia is
 the *first Indian language wikipedia to cross the 10 Lakh milestone*.

 With almost 250 active 
 editorshttp://ml.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%B4%AA%E0%B5%8D%E0%B4%B0%E0%B4%A4%E0%B5%8D%E0%B4%AF%E0%B5%87%E0%B4%95%E0%B4%82:%E0%B4%B8%E0%B5%8D%E0%B4%A5%E0%B4%BF%E0%B4%A4%E0%B4%BF%E0%B4%B5%E0%B4%BF%E0%B4%B5%E0%B4%B0%E0%B4%82Malayalam
  wiki community continues to be one of the most active Indian Wiki
 community. That is the the main reason behind this achievement. Malayalam
 wikipedia also has the *most number of edits per article *(more than 30)
 among all theIndian wikis.

 The information about the *total number of the edits* in some of the major
 active wikis is provided below.

   Language wikipedia Number of edits since the wiki is set up  Malayalam
 1002375  Hindi 913612  Tamil 688891  Marathi 665774  Telugu 578760  Urdu
 376948  Kannada 186771  Gujarati  133134  Sanskrit 101517
 Data is collected on 2011 January 24.



 Thanks
 Shiju Alex



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 Date: 2011/1/25
 Subject: [Wikiml-l] മലയാളം വിക്കിപീഡിയയിൽ 10 ലക്ഷം എഡിറ്റുകൾ
 To: Malayalam wiki project mailing list wikim...@lists.wikimedia.org


 സുഹൃത്തുക്കളേ,

 ഒരു സന്തോഷ വാർത്ത നിങ്ങളെ എല്ലാവരെയും അറിയിക്കുകയാണ്. മലയാളം വിക്കിപീഡിയയിൽ
 10 ലക്ഷം തിരുത്തലുകൾ (Edits) തികഞ്ഞിരിക്കുന്നു. ഇക്കഴിഞ്ഞ ജനുവരി
 22-നായിരുന്നു 10 ലക്ഷം തിരുത്തലുകൾ തികഞ്ഞത്. ഈ കടമ്പ കടക്കുന്ന അമ്പത്തി
 ഒന്നാമത്തെ വിക്കിപീഡിയയാണ് മലയാളം[1]. ഈ കടമ്പ കടന്ന ഏക ഇന്ത്യൻ
 വിക്കിപീഡിയയും മലയാളമാണ്[1].

 ലേഖനങ്ങളുടെ എണ്ണം വർദ്ധിപ്പിക്കുക എന്നത് പ്രാഥമികമായ ലക്ഷ്യമാക്കാതെ,
 കാമ്പുള്ള ലേഖനങ്ങൾ സൃഷ്ടിക്കുക എന്ന ലക്ഷ്യത്തോടെ പ്രവർത്തിക്കുന്നതിന്റെ
 ഫലമായാണ് ഏറ്റവും കൂടുതൽ ഡെപ്ത് ഉള്ള ഇന്ത്യൻ വിക്കിപീഡിയയും ഏറ്റവും കൂടുതൽ
 തിരുത്തലുകൾ നടത്തിയ ഇന്ത്യൻ വിക്കിപീഡിയയും മലയാളമായത്. ഈ സ്ഥാനം എന്നെന്നും
 നിലനിർത്തിപ്പോരാൻ നിങ്ങൾ ഓരോരുത്തരുടെയും സഹകരണം ആവശ്യമാണ്.

 മറ്റു പ്രധാന ഇന്ത്യൻ ഭാഷാ വിക്കിപീഡിയയിലെ  തിരുത്തലുകളുടെ എണ്ണം കാണുക.

   *ഭാഷ (language)* *   തിരുത്തലുകളുടെ എണ്ണം (Number of
 edits since wiki is set up)
 *  മലയാളം  (Malayalam) 1002375  ബംഗാളി  (bengali)
 922606  ഹിന്ദി  (Hindi) 913612  തമിഴ്  (Tamil) 688891  മറാത്തി (Marathi)
 665774  തെലുഗ് (Telugu)
 578760  ഉർദു (Urdu) 376948  കന്നഡ (Kannada) 186771  ഗുജറാത്തി (Gujarati)
 133134  സംസ്കൃതം (Sanskrit)
 101517
 [1]

 ഈ നേട്ടത്തിൽ പങ്കാളിയായ എല്ലാവർക്കും നന്ദി.

 *അവലംബം*
 1. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/List_of_Wikipedias



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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Malayalam wikipedia crossed the 10 Lakh/1 million edits milestone

2011-01-25 Thread Sankalp Dravid
Congratulations to Malayalam Wikipedians!

With almost 250 active 
editorshttp://ml.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%B4%AA%E0%B5%8D%E0%B4%B0%E0%B4%A4%E0%B5%8D%E0%B4%AF%E0%B5%87%E0%B4%95%E0%B4%82:%E0%B4%B8%E0%B5%8D%E0%B4%A5%E0%B4%BF%E0%B4%A4%E0%B4%BF%E0%B4%B5%E0%B4%BF%E0%B4%B5%E0%B4%B0%E0%B4%82Malayalam
 wiki community continues to be one of the most active Indian Wiki
community. That is the the main reason behind this achievement. 
Precisely. Malayalam Wikipedia should be an example for all the budding
wikipedias including the ones in Indic languages.

Regards,
Sankalp

2011/1/25 Shiju Alex shijualexonl...@gmail.com


 Dear All,

 I am happy to announce that Malayalam wikipedia has crossed the *10 Lakh
 (1 million) edits* milestone on *2011 January 22*. Malayalam wikipedia
 is the *first Indian language wikipedia to cross the 10 Lakh milestone*.


 With almost 250 active 
 editorshttp://ml.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%B4%AA%E0%B5%8D%E0%B4%B0%E0%B4%A4%E0%B5%8D%E0%B4%AF%E0%B5%87%E0%B4%95%E0%B4%82:%E0%B4%B8%E0%B5%8D%E0%B4%A5%E0%B4%BF%E0%B4%A4%E0%B4%BF%E0%B4%B5%E0%B4%BF%E0%B4%B5%E0%B4%B0%E0%B4%82Malayalam
  wiki community continues to be one of the most active Indian Wiki
 community. That is the the main reason behind this achievement. Malayalam
 wikipedia also has the *most number of edits per article *(more than 30)
 among all theIndian wikis.

 The information about the *total number of the edits* in some of the
 major active wikis is provided below.

 Language wikipedia Number of edits since the wiki is set up
 Malayalam 1002375 Hindi 913612 Tamil 688891 Marathi 665774 Telugu 578760
 Urdu 376948 Kannada 186771 Gujarati  133134 Sanskrit 101517
 Data is collected on 2011 January 24.



 Thanks
 Shiju Alex


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