Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Report on online outreach event

2012-03-15 Thread Pradeep Mohandas
Hi,

Can we have a place where we can request certain ttopics of outreach events
on google+, orc etc? Eg. Sessions on doing DYK, tagging, wikifying or
editing Wikipedia in Indic languages, etc?

These don't get time at regular meetups and are of interest to small groups
best served by above apps. More targeted sessions.

Pradeep
Handheld
On Mar 14, 2012 9:25 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan parakara.gh...@gmail.com
wrote:

 excellent Swaroop! The only thing that I find odd is suggestion to
 overbook. Creating a waitlist seems to be making it an exclusivity.
 While I can say this is bad, as it is against Wikipedia principles, I
 can also say that Exclusivity builds interest. I know this sounds
 crazy, but do let me know what you think.

 --
 Regards,
 Srikanth Ramakrishnan.
 Wikipedia Coimbatore Meetup on February 12th.
 http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetup/Coimbatore
 Aliens invaded Tamil Nadu, left their Spacship and now it is a Toll Plaza.
 https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:IVRCL-Vijayamangalam-Toll-Plaza.JPG

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Report on online outreach event

2012-03-15 Thread Srikanth Ramakrishnan
Good suggestion. I guess you could go ahead and create a page in your
local wiki on this. That way, we can involve each community
independently and still have such sessions.

-- 
Regards,
Srikanth Ramakrishnan.
Wikipedia Coimbatore Meetup on February 12th.
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetup/Coimbatore
Aliens invaded Tamil Nadu, left their Spacship and now it is a Toll Plaza.
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:IVRCL-Vijayamangalam-Toll-Plaza.JPG

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Report on online outreach event

2012-03-14 Thread Srikanth Ramakrishnan
excellent Swaroop! The only thing that I find odd is suggestion to
overbook. Creating a waitlist seems to be making it an exclusivity.
While I can say this is bad, as it is against Wikipedia principles, I
can also say that Exclusivity builds interest. I know this sounds
crazy, but do let me know what you think.

-- 
Regards,
Srikanth Ramakrishnan.
Wikipedia Coimbatore Meetup on February 12th.
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetup/Coimbatore
Aliens invaded Tamil Nadu, left their Spacship and now it is a Toll Plaza.
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:IVRCL-Vijayamangalam-Toll-Plaza.JPG

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Report on online outreach event

2012-03-13 Thread Deepon Saha
Thanks swaroop, you really have done a brilliant job.. Lets hope next time
we get more participants..:)

Deepon

On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 7:19 PM, Swaroop Rao raul.swar...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello everyone,


 You've probably heard about the online Wikiacademy that Nitika announced
 around a week ago; we recently conducted that session on Saturday (10 March
 2012) on Google+ Hangout.

 Six participants signed up  - one informed day before about her absence,
 two did not show up at all, one could not log into Google hangout, one was
 able to attend the first part of the session but then lost his internet
 connection and eventually we had only one participant who attended the
 entire session. That's what happened at the online outreach event organised
 last Saturday, 10th March.

 It wasn't particularly an impressive session in terms of turnout - we were
 expecting all six guys to show up and take part. But even if these 2
 participants show interest and edit on regular basis I'd call this event a
 success - a success rate of 33%.

 I'd like to discuss few things that we should definitely keep in mind
 before we organize similar events:

 1. Request only those people to register who are sure to have a stable
 internet connection. Some students were trying to log in for the session
 but their hostel/school connections was extremely unstable. Im not sure if
 there is a way for making sure that they have stable connections but it is
 really important. (I can also see where this might be difficult, because
 not many can give any guarantees on the reliability of their net
 connections)

 2. Invariably we'll have few people who'll drop out at the last moment or
 are not able to join leaving room for someone else to join in. Hence for
 such events we should probable overbook a session. If one drops out,
 another one could attend the session instead. This will make sure that
 we're utilizing our resources and time to the fullest.

 3. Ask the participants to do a test google hangout a day or two before
 the actual event. This will make sure that the participants are not facing
 any technical issues and can attend the session seamlessly.

 4. Maybe at the time of registration we need to ask participants for their
 phone numbers. We sent reminders to the participants by way of email but
 yet 2 of them did not show up. It could be that the didn't not read the
 mails well in time. If we had their phone numbers we could have
 messaged/called to send them a gentle reminder.

 5. We could also send across some useful links and videos for the
 participants to go through before the session. This way participants will
 be warmed up and more informed for the session. It will also give the
 participants enough time to jot down all their queries and get them
 clarified during the session.

 From my personal opinion, online outreach is something that can definitely
 work. Sitting in Bangalore I was able to train guys from Nepal  Mangalore.
 I'm hoping that they'll become active editors in English and in their
 respective native languages. Im really happy to note that at least one of
 them has already edited several articles in the medical space - which is
 his field of study.

 I'd also like to thank Deepon - he'd put in a lot of time and effort for
 helping us conduct this session.

 Many thanks of course to Nitika, who requested me to conduct the session,
 and who was omnipresent throughout the session, and took over from me
 whenever my net connection gave way (Another point: we need to somehow make
 sure that the instructors themselves have a good net connection).

 Hoping to conduct more sessions like these.

 Thanks

 Swaroop Rao
 (MikeLynch http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:MikeLynch)

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Report on online outreach event

2012-03-13 Thread wheredevelsdare

Very good to know about outreach by yourself and others from Gujarati 
Wikipedia. Would appreciate if you could post a small note reporting how each 
event went, so that the rest of the community in India is abreast with your 
activities and can learn and replicate the good work your doing/avoid repeating 
any mistakes you may have made.

Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 22:16:42 +
From: dsv...@gmail.com
To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
CC: wikipedia...@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Report on online outreach event

Hi Swaroop, This is quite common phenomenon for the new beginings. I have 
started online meetups/sessions for Gujarati Wikipedia since the begining of 
this new Year. Have held 4 sessions so far. Had similar experience in my 
firstever planned event. Users are showing interest, and I am sure, if we 
continued it as a regular event, people will be regular to attend as well. 
Those who couldn't join the meetups/events online, have shared their apologies 
and have regreted for it, which shows that they genuinely missed, and that is 
enough for me to carry it on.
 Simply wanted to say that you are doing a nice job, please Keep Calm and 
Carry On. People will join and number of participants will increase slowly. 
All the best!
Dhaval

On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 3:59 PM, Deepon Saha hideeponh...@gmail.com wrote:

Thanks swaroop, you really have done a brilliant job.. Lets hope next time we 
get more participants..:)
Deepon

On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 7:19 PM, Swaroop Rao raul.swar...@gmail.com wrote:



Hello everyone,




You've probably heard about the online Wikiacademy that Nitika announced 
around a week ago; we recently conducted that session on Saturday (10 March 
2012) on Google+ Hangout.





Six participants signed up  - one informed day before about her absence, two 
did not show up at all, one could not log into Google hangout, one was able to 
attend the first part of the session but then lost his internet connection and 
eventually we had only one participant who attended the entire session. That's 
what happened at the online outreach event organised last Saturday, 10th March.








It wasn't particularly an impressive session in terms of turnout - we were 
expecting all six guys to show up and take part. But even if these 2 
participants show interest and edit on regular basis I'd call this event a 
success - a success rate of 33%.








I'd like to discuss few things that we should definitely keep in mind before we 
organize similar events:



1. Request only those people to register who are sure to have a stable internet 
connection. Some students were trying to log in for the session but their 
hostel/school connections was extremely unstable. Im not sure if there is a way 
for making sure that they have stable connections but it is really important. 
(I can also see where this might be difficult, because not many can give any 
guarantees on the reliability of their net connections)






2. Invariably we'll have few people who'll drop out at the last moment or are 
not able to join leaving room for someone else to join in. Hence for such 
events we should probable overbook a session. If one drops out, another one 
could attend the session instead. This will make sure that we're utilizing our 
resources and time to the fullest.






3. Ask the participants to do a test google hangout a day or two before the 
actual event. This will make sure that the participants are not facing any 
technical issues and can attend the session seamlessly.






4. Maybe at the time of registration we need to ask participants for their 
phone numbers. We sent reminders to the participants by way of email but yet 2 
of them did not show up. It could be that the didn't not read the mails well in 
time. If we had their phone numbers we could have messaged/called to send them 
a gentle reminder.






5. We could also send across some useful links and videos for the participants 
to go through before the session. This way participants will be warmed up and 
more informed for the session. It will also give the participants enough time 
to jot down all their queries and get them clarified during the session.








From my personal opinion, online outreach is something that can definitely 
work. Sitting in Bangalore I was able to train guys from Nepal  Mangalore. 
I'm hoping that they'll become active editors in English and in their 
respective native languages. Im really happy to note that at least one of them 
has already edited several articles in the medical space - which is his field 
of study.







I'd also like to thank Deepon - he'd put in a lot of time and effort for 
helping us conduct this session.


Many thanks of course to Nitika, who requested me to conduct the session, and 
who was omnipresent throughout the session, and took over from me whenever my 
net connection gave way (Another point: we need to somehow make sure that the 
instructors themselves have a good