Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] SocialShare Gadget on Tamil Wikipedia

2011-12-09 Thread Srikanth Ramakrishnan 
A bug sitting there for six years? My my, that is indeed bad news. All
you BugZilla users out there, please help out ...

On 09/12/2011, Srikanth Lakshmanan  wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 04:01, Arjuna Rao Chavala
> wrote:
>
>>
>> Nice idea. Other indic wikipedias could leverage the same.
>>
>
> There is one thing that is required for other wikipedias to use the same.
> ShortURL[1] is required for sharing on twitter. The development is
> done(Thanks Yuvi!) and its sitting for review. I know there is a
> significant interest for getting the extension deployed among Indic wikis,
> but this bug is sitting there for quite a long time. I have poked the bug
> enough number of times, please feel to comment spam the bug[2] for it to
> get some attention and/or add a vote. The bug is on its way to  6th
> birthday and lets hope it gets closed soon.
>
> [1] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ShortUrl
> [2] bugzilla.wikimedia.org/1450
>
> --
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> Srikanth.L
>

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] SocialShare Gadget on Tamil Wikipedia

2011-12-08 Thread Srikanth Lakshmanan 
On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 04:01, Arjuna Rao Chavala wrote:

>
> Nice idea. Other indic wikipedias could leverage the same.
>

There is one thing that is required for other wikipedias to use the same.
ShortURL[1] is required for sharing on twitter. The development is
done(Thanks Yuvi!) and its sitting for review. I know there is a
significant interest for getting the extension deployed among Indic wikis,
but this bug is sitting there for quite a long time. I have poked the bug
enough number of times, please feel to comment spam the bug[2] for it to
get some attention and/or add a vote. The bug is on its way to  6th
birthday and lets hope it gets closed soon.

[1] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ShortUrl
[2] bugzilla.wikimedia.org/1450

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] SocialShare Gadget on Tamil Wikipedia

2011-12-08 Thread Naveen Francis 
Hi

On the same note... we are having 24 admins handling Wikimedia India
Facebook page.
We are updating with stats,news,discussions etc...

Is there anyone in the list who has started editing bcoz of  that  ?

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On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 10:07 AM, Srikanth Lakshmanan wrote:

>
>
> On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 04:05, Arjuna Rao Chavala wrote:
>
>>
>> I saw this used on  Wiki Conference India page 
>> earlier  If there 
>> is some easier analysis of the number of view of the
>> conference, pre and post the introduction of sharing buttons, it may give
>> idea the usefulness of the idea. Probably this could apply to Tamil contest.
>>
>
> As such numerical analysis on the usage of social media is not black and
> white. For WikiConference, Tamil Contest and others we do all kind of PR,
> so we cannot bucket the page views, but social media does play a key role.
>
> On a slightly related note(unrelated to social media, but related to
> numbers) of campaign tracking, am looking to gather numbers for the
> SiteNotice campaign atleast and have talked to Howie Fung during the
> Hackathon for some improvements in SiteNotice mechanisms taking inputs from
> Fundraising team. I hope we will work on it sooner. For people who are not
> aware, extensive analysis goes behind the fundraising and they gather
> numbers on many things(from clicks to actual payments) to see which
> campaigns are effective and use them.
>
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] SocialShare Gadget on Tamil Wikipedia

2011-12-08 Thread Srikanth Lakshmanan 
On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 04:05, Arjuna Rao Chavala wrote:

>
> I saw this used on  Wiki Conference India page 
> earlier  If there 
> is some easier analysis of the number of view of the
> conference, pre and post the introduction of sharing buttons, it may give
> idea the usefulness of the idea. Probably this could apply to Tamil contest.
>

As such numerical analysis on the usage of social media is not black and
white. For WikiConference, Tamil Contest and others we do all kind of PR,
so we cannot bucket the page views, but social media does play a key role.

On a slightly related note(unrelated to social media, but related to
numbers) of campaign tracking, am looking to gather numbers for the
SiteNotice campaign atleast and have talked to Howie Fung during the
Hackathon for some improvements in SiteNotice mechanisms taking inputs from
Fundraising team. I hope we will work on it sooner. For people who are not
aware, extensive analysis goes behind the fundraising and they gather
numbers on many things(from clicks to actual payments) to see which
campaigns are effective and use them.

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] SocialShare Gadget on Tamil Wikipedia

2011-12-08 Thread Srikanth Ramakrishnan 
Good one Srikanth. This is exactly what we need now. Publicity.

On 09/12/2011, Naveen Francis  wrote:
> User:ManojK had that in
>
> http://wiki.wikimedia.in/Wiki_Academy/National_Institute_of_Technology,_Calicut_2011page
> too ..
> I think it should practice now .
>
> Thanks,
> naveenpf
>
> On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 4:05 AM, Arjuna Rao Chavala
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 2:27 AM, Srikanth Lakshmanan
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 02:13, Steven Walling
>>> wrote:

 Very cool. :)

>>> Thank you!
>>>
>>>
 Is there going to be any way to measure how often this happens, and for
 what pages? Other communities have spent many hours discussing this
 (including English Wikipedia) with little success. Data on how social
 sharing leads to greater readership, enthusiasm for Wikipedia, and even
 possibly editing would be fantastic to have.

>>>
>>> For us any number is good :) Having said that, I have subscribed to the
>>> hashtag on twitter, so can get some numbers in sometime, not sure about
>>> checking facebook. Absolutely no way to get a count of emails :D. We need
>>> more readership, so we knock all the doors without worrying much on
>>> effect,
>>> but most of the efforts we take(Contests, Featured Wikimedians,
>>> Sitenotice
>>> campaigns) give us good results for our scale.(IMO except physical
>>> outreach
>>> which gives the least RoI). We are also planning to start a full fledged
>>> facebook page soon(may be post the media contest) to leverage facebook
>>> more
>>> to showcase DYK, ITN, FA, FPX and hope to get more visitors,editors.
>>>
>>> On English community's debate, its in a very different galaxy, am not
>>> even sure if we are in same universe(on numbers etc), So things differ.
>>>
>>
>> I saw this used on  Wiki Conference India page
>> earlier  If
>> there is some easier analysis of the number of view of the
>> conference, pre and post the introduction of sharing buttons, it may give
>> idea the usefulness of the idea. Probably this could apply to Tamil
>> contest.
>>
>>
>> Cheers
>> Arjuna Rao Chavala
>>
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] SocialShare Gadget on Tamil Wikipedia

2011-12-08 Thread Naveen Francis 
User:ManojK had that in

http://wiki.wikimedia.in/Wiki_Academy/National_Institute_of_Technology,_Calicut_2011page
too ..
I think it should practice now .

Thanks,
naveenpf

On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 4:05 AM, Arjuna Rao Chavala wrote:

>
>
> On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 2:27 AM, Srikanth Lakshmanan wrote:
>
>> On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 02:13, Steven Walling wrote:
>>>
>>> Very cool. :)
>>>
>> Thank you!
>>
>>
>>> Is there going to be any way to measure how often this happens, and for
>>> what pages? Other communities have spent many hours discussing this
>>> (including English Wikipedia) with little success. Data on how social
>>> sharing leads to greater readership, enthusiasm for Wikipedia, and even
>>> possibly editing would be fantastic to have.
>>>
>>
>> For us any number is good :) Having said that, I have subscribed to the
>> hashtag on twitter, so can get some numbers in sometime, not sure about
>> checking facebook. Absolutely no way to get a count of emails :D. We need
>> more readership, so we knock all the doors without worrying much on effect,
>> but most of the efforts we take(Contests, Featured Wikimedians, Sitenotice
>> campaigns) give us good results for our scale.(IMO except physical outreach
>> which gives the least RoI). We are also planning to start a full fledged
>> facebook page soon(may be post the media contest) to leverage facebook more
>> to showcase DYK, ITN, FA, FPX and hope to get more visitors,editors.
>>
>> On English community's debate, its in a very different galaxy, am not
>> even sure if we are in same universe(on numbers etc), So things differ.
>>
>
> I saw this used on  Wiki Conference India page 
> earlier  If there 
> is some easier analysis of the number of view of the
> conference, pre and post the introduction of sharing buttons, it may give
> idea the usefulness of the idea. Probably this could apply to Tamil contest.
>
>
> Cheers
> Arjuna Rao Chavala
>
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] SocialShare Gadget on Tamil Wikipedia

2011-12-08 Thread Arjuna Rao Chavala 
On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 2:27 AM, Srikanth Lakshmanan wrote:

> On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 02:13, Steven Walling wrote:
>>
>> Very cool. :)
>>
> Thank you!
>
>
>> Is there going to be any way to measure how often this happens, and for
>> what pages? Other communities have spent many hours discussing this
>> (including English Wikipedia) with little success. Data on how social
>> sharing leads to greater readership, enthusiasm for Wikipedia, and even
>> possibly editing would be fantastic to have.
>>
>
> For us any number is good :) Having said that, I have subscribed to the
> hashtag on twitter, so can get some numbers in sometime, not sure about
> checking facebook. Absolutely no way to get a count of emails :D. We need
> more readership, so we knock all the doors without worrying much on effect,
> but most of the efforts we take(Contests, Featured Wikimedians, Sitenotice
> campaigns) give us good results for our scale.(IMO except physical outreach
> which gives the least RoI). We are also planning to start a full fledged
> facebook page soon(may be post the media contest) to leverage facebook more
> to showcase DYK, ITN, FA, FPX and hope to get more visitors,editors.
>
> On English community's debate, its in a very different galaxy, am not even
> sure if we are in same universe(on numbers etc), So things differ.
>

I saw this used on  Wiki Conference India page
earlier  If
there is some easier analysis of the number of view of the
conference, pre and post the introduction of sharing buttons, it may give
idea the usefulness of the idea. Probably this could apply to Tamil contest.


Cheers
Arjuna Rao Chavala
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] SocialShare Gadget on Tamil Wikipedia

2011-12-08 Thread Arjuna Rao Chavala 
On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 2:03 AM, Srikanth Lakshmanan wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Just as we started the Tamil Wiki Media Contest[1], we have realized the
> power of social media[2] and virality. In an attempt to increase page views
> even by single digits and having more visibility for content pages, I was
> looking around and found the share gadget on Hebrew wikipedia and have
> adapted the gadget code[3] to Tamil[4]. Since Indic wikipedias need more
> people to read the articles, this might be useful gadget you might want to
> your Indic wikiprojects. Should you need any help to get this on your wiki,
> please ping me off-list.
>
> Thanks Hebrew community for the code & Bala/Surya for helping out.
>
> Okay, next time you read a good article on Tamil Wikipedia, just share
> with your friends :)
>
> [1] http://ta.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contest
> [2] http://www.facebook.com/tawmc
> [3] http://tawp.in/r/2v3x
> [4] http://tawp.in/r/2v42
>
>
Nice idea. Other indic wikipedias could leverage the same.

Thanks
Arjun
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] SocialShare Gadget on Tamil Wikipedia

2011-12-08 Thread Srikanth Lakshmanan 
On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 02:13, Steven Walling  wrote:
>
> Very cool. :)
>
Thank you!


> Is there going to be any way to measure how often this happens, and for
> what pages? Other communities have spent many hours discussing this
> (including English Wikipedia) with little success. Data on how social
> sharing leads to greater readership, enthusiasm for Wikipedia, and even
> possibly editing would be fantastic to have.
>

For us any number is good :) Having said that, I have subscribed to the
hashtag on twitter, so can get some numbers in sometime, not sure about
checking facebook. Absolutely no way to get a count of emails :D. We need
more readership, so we knock all the doors without worrying much on effect,
but most of the efforts we take(Contests, Featured Wikimedians, Sitenotice
campaigns) give us good results for our scale.(IMO except physical outreach
which gives the least RoI). We are also planning to start a full fledged
facebook page soon(may be post the media contest) to leverage facebook more
to showcase DYK, ITN, FA, FPX and hope to get more visitors,editors.

On English community's debate, its in a very different galaxy, am not even
sure if we are in same universe(on numbers etc), So things differ.

-- 
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] SocialShare Gadget on Tamil Wikipedia

2011-12-08 Thread Steven Walling 
On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 12:33 PM, Srikanth Lakshmanan wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Just as we started the Tamil Wiki Media Contest[1], we have realized the
> power of social media[2] and virality. In an attempt to increase page views
> even by single digits and having more visibility for content pages, I was
> looking around and found the share gadget on Hebrew wikipedia and have
> adapted the gadget code[3] to Tamil[4]. Since Indic wikipedias need more
> people to read the articles, this might be useful gadget you might want to
> your Indic wikiprojects. Should you need any help to get this on your wiki,
> please ping me off-list.
>
> Thanks Hebrew community for the code & Bala/Surya for helping out.
>
> Okay, next time you read a good article on Tamil Wikipedia, just share
> with your friends :)
>
> [1] http://ta.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contest
> [2] http://www.facebook.com/tawmc
> [3] http://tawp.in/r/2v3x
> [4] http://tawp.in/r/2v42
>
> --
> Regards
> Srikanth.L
>

Very cool. :)

Is there going to be any way to measure how often this happens, and for
what pages? Other communities have spent many hours discussing this
(including English Wikipedia) with little success. Data on how social
sharing leads to greater readership, enthusiasm for Wikipedia, and even
possibly editing would be fantastic to have.

Steven Walling
Community Organizer at Wikimedia Foundation
wikimediafoundation.org
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[Wikimediaindia-l] SocialShare Gadget on Tamil Wikipedia

2011-12-08 Thread Srikanth Lakshmanan 
Hi all,

Just as we started the Tamil Wiki Media Contest[1], we have realized the
power of social media[2] and virality. In an attempt to increase page views
even by single digits and having more visibility for content pages, I was
looking around and found the share gadget on Hebrew wikipedia and have
adapted the gadget code[3] to Tamil[4]. Since Indic wikipedias need more
people to read the articles, this might be useful gadget you might want to
your Indic wikiprojects. Should you need any help to get this on your wiki,
please ping me off-list.

Thanks Hebrew community for the code & Bala/Surya for helping out.

Okay, next time you read a good article on Tamil Wikipedia, just share with
your friends :)

[1] http://ta.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contest
[2] http://www.facebook.com/tawmc
[3] http://tawp.in/r/2v3x
[4] http://tawp.in/r/2v42

-- 
Regards
Srikanth.L
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