Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-in-en] Creating video of Indian Editors We Edit Wikipedia
Just quipping in, if you say it in English it can mean you edit in English. That can be one way of doing it. :) On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 2:06 PM, CherianTinu Abraham tinucher...@gmail.comwrote: So can we say I edit Wikipedia in English Language ? Does that count ? ;) -TC On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 5:10 PM, Subhashish Panigrahi su...@wikimedia.orgwrote: Yes, they are also being invited to participated, it's about Indian Editors and Indian faces. On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 5:06 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan parakara.gh...@gmail.com wrote: And what about participation of the Indian English Community? On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 3:33 AM, Subhashish Panigrahi su...@wikimedia.org wrote: Here are the answers I have to all of you. @Noopur: nice points, I am including them all and here is draft for the community which I will be posting in the respective Wikipedia Village pumps. (http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Subha_WMF/sandbox1) @Ashwin, the videos you, Nitika and Swaroop are working will be hardcore outreach videos to teach how to edit Wikipedia. @Konarak, thanks a lot buddy, let us get the footages and we would definitely seek your support for the post production. Moover, we would be more than happy if you lead the event to get the videos done in your place from the community members. @Srikanth, the final video will be in Commons and obviously with .ogv format. But the raw footage will be in .mov/avi/mpeg, they are the formats used before editing. After editing we will convert the final video into .ogv. On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 4:05 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan parakara.gh...@gmail.com wrote: Subha, What about the Indian English Community? Noopur, Thanks for the ideas, but one small suggestion. Format- Keep it OGV. We can't be promoting an open project with a closed format video no? Konark, Good to see young brains like you volunteering on this. Ashwin, Can I have a link please? On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 9:41 AM, Ashwin Baindur ashwin.bain...@gmail.com wrote: Nitika MikeLynch some others have just begin working in this field and a prototype video on how to create an account has been made. Imho these efforts should be combined. Warm regards, Ashwin Baindur -- On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 10:59 PM, Konarak Ratnakar konarak...@live.com wrote: Hey, +1 to this, I can help(composing, editing). Konarak. Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 22:10:06 +0530 From: noopur.ra...@gmail.com To: wikimedia-in...@lists.wikimedia.org; wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-in-en] Creating video of Indian Editors We Edit Wikipedia Hey Subhashish, I think it's a great idea. In case people are thinking of recording such a video, I would love to help you edit and here are some suggestions for community members: 1) Put it on your next meetup agenda. Do it in the meetup itself 2) It could be one single person saying I edit wikipedia or a group. More than 1 is welcome 3) For editing purposes, it is better if you record video in room with LESS noise and MORE light 4) Try and keep video in MPEG, Avi or MP4, so that while editing we don't have to convert and lose quality. 5) You can use any normal digital camera, even your (iphone) camera :P Just try and minimize shaking. Cheers Noopur 2012/2/7 Subhashish Panigrahi su...@wikimedia.org: Deal all, As a part of helping the community to reach out to more people apart from the presentations, handouts, FAQs and mailing list support we also have need for more visuals. Audio/Video clips containing Indian Wikipedians sharing their message I EDIT WIKIPEDIA or I EDIT AN INDIAN LANGUAGE WIKIPEDIA or WIKIPEDIA IS HELPING ME DOCUMENTING MY HERITAGE will create impact among people and motivate them to contribute to Wikipedia. Many people use Wikipedia in a daily basis without being aware of they can also [Edit] it, social media, Youtube, mails containing link to such a video can be used to reach this message to them. Moreover, such videos which are already there in Outreach (outreach.wikimedia.org) Bookshelf might make some people feel it's project being managed by some foreigners. Seeing some real Indians editing Wikipedia with the Main page of an Indian language background will definitely make this message clearer. If there is a fairly good no of community members located in anywhere in India (e.g Pune, Bangalore and Mumbai community) we can ask the community members say it altogether aloud apart from one/two community members speaking in their own language. I will be posting the details in the community village pumps, you are allowed to send as many people's footage as you can provided the video and audio quality are reasonable good. We will be collecting footage from all
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-in-en] Creating video of Indian Editors We Edit Wikipedia
it would be good to specify 'in English'. Not everyone might know for certain that the spoken language is English. Pradeep Handheld On 29/02/2012, Noopur noopur.ra...@gmail.com wrote: Just quipping in, if you say it in English it can mean you edit in English. That can be one way of doing it. :) On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 2:06 PM, CherianTinu Abraham tinucher...@gmail.comwrote: So can we say I edit Wikipedia in English Language ? Does that count ? ;) -TC On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 5:10 PM, Subhashish Panigrahi su...@wikimedia.orgwrote: Yes, they are also being invited to participated, it's about Indian Editors and Indian faces. On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 5:06 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan parakara.gh...@gmail.com wrote: And what about participation of the Indian English Community? On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 3:33 AM, Subhashish Panigrahi su...@wikimedia.org wrote: Here are the answers I have to all of you. @Noopur: nice points, I am including them all and here is draft for the community which I will be posting in the respective Wikipedia Village pumps. (http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Subha_WMF/sandbox1) @Ashwin, the videos you, Nitika and Swaroop are working will be hardcore outreach videos to teach how to edit Wikipedia. @Konarak, thanks a lot buddy, let us get the footages and we would definitely seek your support for the post production. Moover, we would be more than happy if you lead the event to get the videos done in your place from the community members. @Srikanth, the final video will be in Commons and obviously with .ogv format. But the raw footage will be in .mov/avi/mpeg, they are the formats used before editing. After editing we will convert the final video into .ogv. On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 4:05 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan parakara.gh...@gmail.com wrote: Subha, What about the Indian English Community? Noopur, Thanks for the ideas, but one small suggestion. Format- Keep it OGV. We can't be promoting an open project with a closed format video no? Konark, Good to see young brains like you volunteering on this. Ashwin, Can I have a link please? On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 9:41 AM, Ashwin Baindur ashwin.bain...@gmail.com wrote: Nitika MikeLynch some others have just begin working in this field and a prototype video on how to create an account has been made. Imho these efforts should be combined. Warm regards, Ashwin Baindur -- On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 10:59 PM, Konarak Ratnakar konarak...@live.com wrote: Hey, +1 to this, I can help(composing, editing). Konarak. Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 22:10:06 +0530 From: noopur.ra...@gmail.com To: wikimedia-in...@lists.wikimedia.org; wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-in-en] Creating video of Indian Editors We Edit Wikipedia Hey Subhashish, I think it's a great idea. In case people are thinking of recording such a video, I would love to help you edit and here are some suggestions for community members: 1) Put it on your next meetup agenda. Do it in the meetup itself 2) It could be one single person saying I edit wikipedia or a group. More than 1 is welcome 3) For editing purposes, it is better if you record video in room with LESS noise and MORE light 4) Try and keep video in MPEG, Avi or MP4, so that while editing we don't have to convert and lose quality. 5) You can use any normal digital camera, even your (iphone) camera :P Just try and minimize shaking. Cheers Noopur 2012/2/7 Subhashish Panigrahi su...@wikimedia.org: Deal all, As a part of helping the community to reach out to more people apart from the presentations, handouts, FAQs and mailing list support we also have need for more visuals. Audio/Video clips containing Indian Wikipedians sharing their message I EDIT WIKIPEDIA or I EDIT AN INDIAN LANGUAGE WIKIPEDIA or WIKIPEDIA IS HELPING ME DOCUMENTING MY HERITAGE will create impact among people and motivate them to contribute to Wikipedia. Many people use Wikipedia in a daily basis without being aware of they can also [Edit] it, social media, Youtube, mails containing link to such a video can be used to reach this message to them. Moreover, such videos which are already there in Outreach (outreach.wikimedia.org) Bookshelf might make some people feel it's project being managed by some foreigners. Seeing some real Indians editing Wikipedia with the Main page of an Indian language background will definitely make this message clearer. If there is a fairly good no of community members located in anywhere in India (e.g Pune, Bangalore and Mumbai community) we can ask the community members say it altogether aloud apart from one/two community members speaking in their own language. I will be posting the details
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-in-en] Creating video of Indian Editors We Edit Wikipedia
Can someone share the link to the video, If its viewable now. Thanks in advance, Ade. On 28 February 2012 06:13, Jessie Wild jw...@wikimedia.org wrote: Great idea! The Brazilian community was thinking about doing something similar; I'm sure they could benefit in learning from your experimentations - be sure to document everything! :D On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 7:20 AM, Subhashish Panigrahi psubhash...@gmail.com wrote: Lol, what's up with you Noopur, finally you let that Matt bumped into India mailing list? :p On 23 February 2012 20:48, Noopur noopur.ra...@gmail.com wrote: Just for some motivation and amusement, watch this: *Where the hell is Matt? * http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlfKdbWwruY Cheers Noopur On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 10:11 AM, Subhashish Panigrahi su...@wikimedia.org wrote: Thanks a lot Swaroop, We are expecting more inputs from you guys, and please free to add/modify the questions wikipedians have to keep in mind ( http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Subha_WMF/sandbox1). I have also received responses from Pune and Ahemadabad communities. If you guys can shoot some videos at the end of the meet ups as there will be a gathering of wikipedians it will be good. We can make a prototype video to make the Indic language communities understand the way they need to make this video. Thanks Subha On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 9:41 PM, Swaroop Rao raul.swar...@gmail.comwrote: Swaroop Rao (MikeLynch http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:MikeLynch) On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 20:38, Noopur noopur.ra...@gmail.com wrote: Let me clear this confusion. Dear Srikanth R, *please* attempt to read the ENTIRE mail. I suggested recording in a popular format because converting and editing ogv is a PAIN. And, it reduces video quality by two times. +1 to that. OGV, for all its openness, is a big pain to work on, especially for converting. Another thing, if we are to upload these videos to Commons, *obviously* we will have to convert them to open formats. So, no one is denying that. It is rather obvious and understood. So now that we have cleared confusions, can the SIGs and guys organizing meetups please raise hands? Will you guys be able to do such recording? *raises hand* I am willing to create such a video; I appreciate Subha's mail about what exactly to say, but it shouldn't be a boring, mechanical interview-style answering of questions. If it is to motivate others, it should be catchy (read ad-like). On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 8:13 PM, Subhashish Panigrahi su...@wikimedia.org wrote: Well, that's the whole point. The final file to be hosted for public would be ogg and the backend work will involve raw file editing collected in different formats. On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 6:58 PM, Konarak Ratnakar konarak...@live.com wrote: Subhashis exactly, you might know this, but Xiph (developers of .ogg /.ogv) doesn't even endorse .ogv. And .ogg can be used with Matroska. Though I'll convert the videos in .ogv. Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 18:53:51 +0530 From: su...@wikimedia.org To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-in-en] Creating video of Indian Editors We Edit Wikipedia That sounds good Konarak, and apart from the loss of quality most handy cam users might not be aware of converting them to ogg, but once you convert raw footages to ogg there will be difficulty to edit, because normally the final avi/mpeg is converted to a open source format and uploaded in Commons. On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 6:35 PM, Konarak Ratnakar konarak...@live.com wrote: Hey Srikanth, that's fine by me, twas just a suggestion, because in .ogv there is loss of quality due to compression. Subhashish, I will, in the Meetup, it's on 19th of feb. Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 17:10:39 +0530 From: su...@wikimedia.org To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-in-en] Creating video of Indian Editors We Edit Wikipedia Yes, they are also being invited to participated, it's about Indian Editors and Indian faces. On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 5:06 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan parakara.gh...@gmail.com wrote: And what about participation of the Indian English Community? On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 3:33 AM, Subhashish Panigrahi su...@wikimedia.org wrote: Here are the answers I have to all of you. @Noopur: nice points, I am including them all and here is draft for the community which I will be posting in the respective Wikipedia Village pumps. (http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Subha_WMF/sandbox1) @Ashwin, the videos you, Nitika and Swaroop are working will be hardcore outreach videos to teach how to edit Wikipedia. @Konarak, thanks a lot buddy, let us get the footages and we would definitely seek your support for the post production. Moover, we would
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-in-en] Creating video of Indian Editors We Edit Wikipedia
Dear Ade, We still have not created the video, we need the community members speak in the video. The How to create this video could be answered at http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Subha_WMF/sandbox1. Jessie, will do that once we are get the footages.. On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 4:10 PM, Adethya Sudarsanan adethyas...@gmail.comwrote: Can someone share the link to the video, If its viewable now. Thanks in advance, Ade. On 28 February 2012 06:13, Jessie Wild jw...@wikimedia.org wrote: Great idea! The Brazilian community was thinking about doing something similar; I'm sure they could benefit in learning from your experimentations - be sure to document everything! :D On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 7:20 AM, Subhashish Panigrahi psubhash...@gmail.com wrote: Lol, what's up with you Noopur, finally you let that Matt bumped into India mailing list? :p On 23 February 2012 20:48, Noopur noopur.ra...@gmail.com wrote: Just for some motivation and amusement, watch this: *Where the hell is Matt? * http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlfKdbWwruY Cheers Noopur On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 10:11 AM, Subhashish Panigrahi su...@wikimedia.org wrote: Thanks a lot Swaroop, We are expecting more inputs from you guys, and please free to add/modify the questions wikipedians have to keep in mind ( http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Subha_WMF/sandbox1). I have also received responses from Pune and Ahemadabad communities. If you guys can shoot some videos at the end of the meet ups as there will be a gathering of wikipedians it will be good. We can make a prototype video to make the Indic language communities understand the way they need to make this video. Thanks Subha On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 9:41 PM, Swaroop Rao raul.swar...@gmail.comwrote: Swaroop Rao (MikeLynch http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:MikeLynch) On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 20:38, Noopur noopur.ra...@gmail.com wrote: Let me clear this confusion. Dear Srikanth R, *please* attempt to read the ENTIRE mail. I suggested recording in a popular format because converting and editing ogv is a PAIN. And, it reduces video quality by two times. +1 to that. OGV, for all its openness, is a big pain to work on, especially for converting. Another thing, if we are to upload these videos to Commons, *obviously* we will have to convert them to open formats. So, no one is denying that. It is rather obvious and understood. So now that we have cleared confusions, can the SIGs and guys organizing meetups please raise hands? Will you guys be able to do such recording? *raises hand* I am willing to create such a video; I appreciate Subha's mail about what exactly to say, but it shouldn't be a boring, mechanical interview-style answering of questions. If it is to motivate others, it should be catchy (read ad-like). On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 8:13 PM, Subhashish Panigrahi su...@wikimedia.org wrote: Well, that's the whole point. The final file to be hosted for public would be ogg and the backend work will involve raw file editing collected in different formats. On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 6:58 PM, Konarak Ratnakar konarak...@live.com wrote: Subhashis exactly, you might know this, but Xiph (developers of .ogg /.ogv) doesn't even endorse .ogv. And .ogg can be used with Matroska. Though I'll convert the videos in .ogv. Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 18:53:51 +0530 From: su...@wikimedia.org To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-in-en] Creating video of Indian Editors We Edit Wikipedia That sounds good Konarak, and apart from the loss of quality most handy cam users might not be aware of converting them to ogg, but once you convert raw footages to ogg there will be difficulty to edit, because normally the final avi/mpeg is converted to a open source format and uploaded in Commons. On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 6:35 PM, Konarak Ratnakar konarak...@live.com wrote: Hey Srikanth, that's fine by me, twas just a suggestion, because in .ogv there is loss of quality due to compression. Subhashish, I will, in the Meetup, it's on 19th of feb. Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 17:10:39 +0530 From: su...@wikimedia.org To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-in-en] Creating video of Indian Editors We Edit Wikipedia Yes, they are also being invited to participated, it's about Indian Editors and Indian faces. On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 5:06 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan parakara.gh...@gmail.com wrote: And what about participation of the Indian English Community? On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 3:33 AM, Subhashish Panigrahi su...@wikimedia.org wrote: Here are the answers I have to all of you. @Noopur: nice points, I am including them all and here is draft for the community which I will be posting in the respective
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-in-en] Creating video of Indian Editors We Edit Wikipedia
Just for some motivation and amusement, watch this: *Where the hell is Matt? * http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlfKdbWwruY Cheers Noopur On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 10:11 AM, Subhashish Panigrahi su...@wikimedia.orgwrote: Thanks a lot Swaroop, We are expecting more inputs from you guys, and please free to add/modify the questions wikipedians have to keep in mind ( http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Subha_WMF/sandbox1). I have also received responses from Pune and Ahemadabad communities. If you guys can shoot some videos at the end of the meet ups as there will be a gathering of wikipedians it will be good. We can make a prototype video to make the Indic language communities understand the way they need to make this video. Thanks Subha On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 9:41 PM, Swaroop Rao raul.swar...@gmail.comwrote: Swaroop Rao (MikeLynch http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:MikeLynch) On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 20:38, Noopur noopur.ra...@gmail.com wrote: Let me clear this confusion. Dear Srikanth R, *please* attempt to read the ENTIRE mail. I suggested recording in a popular format because converting and editing ogv is a PAIN. And, it reduces video quality by two times. +1 to that. OGV, for all its openness, is a big pain to work on, especially for converting. Another thing, if we are to upload these videos to Commons, *obviously* we will have to convert them to open formats. So, no one is denying that. It is rather obvious and understood. So now that we have cleared confusions, can the SIGs and guys organizing meetups please raise hands? Will you guys be able to do such recording? *raises hand* I am willing to create such a video; I appreciate Subha's mail about what exactly to say, but it shouldn't be a boring, mechanical interview-style answering of questions. If it is to motivate others, it should be catchy (read ad-like). On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 8:13 PM, Subhashish Panigrahi su...@wikimedia.org wrote: Well, that's the whole point. The final file to be hosted for public would be ogg and the backend work will involve raw file editing collected in different formats. On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 6:58 PM, Konarak Ratnakar konarak...@live.com wrote: Subhashis exactly, you might know this, but Xiph (developers of .ogg /.ogv) doesn't even endorse .ogv. And .ogg can be used with Matroska. Though I'll convert the videos in .ogv. Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 18:53:51 +0530 From: su...@wikimedia.org To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-in-en] Creating video of Indian Editors We Edit Wikipedia That sounds good Konarak, and apart from the loss of quality most handy cam users might not be aware of converting them to ogg, but once you convert raw footages to ogg there will be difficulty to edit, because normally the final avi/mpeg is converted to a open source format and uploaded in Commons. On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 6:35 PM, Konarak Ratnakar konarak...@live.com wrote: Hey Srikanth, that's fine by me, twas just a suggestion, because in .ogv there is loss of quality due to compression. Subhashish, I will, in the Meetup, it's on 19th of feb. Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 17:10:39 +0530 From: su...@wikimedia.org To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-in-en] Creating video of Indian Editors We Edit Wikipedia Yes, they are also being invited to participated, it's about Indian Editors and Indian faces. On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 5:06 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan parakara.gh...@gmail.com wrote: And what about participation of the Indian English Community? On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 3:33 AM, Subhashish Panigrahi su...@wikimedia.org wrote: Here are the answers I have to all of you. @Noopur: nice points, I am including them all and here is draft for the community which I will be posting in the respective Wikipedia Village pumps. (http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Subha_WMF/sandbox1) @Ashwin, the videos you, Nitika and Swaroop are working will be hardcore outreach videos to teach how to edit Wikipedia. @Konarak, thanks a lot buddy, let us get the footages and we would definitely seek your support for the post production. Moover, we would be more than happy if you lead the event to get the videos done in your place from the community members. @Srikanth, the final video will be in Commons and obviously with .ogv format. But the raw footage will be in .mov/avi/mpeg, they are the formats used before editing. After editing we will convert the final video into .ogv. On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 4:05 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan parakara.gh...@gmail.com wrote: Subha, What about the Indian English Community? Noopur, Thanks for the ideas, but one small suggestion. Format- Keep it OGV. We can't be promoting an open
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-in-en] Creating video of Indian Editors We Edit Wikipedia
Lol, what's up with you Noopur, finally you let that Matt bumped into India mailing list? :p On 23 February 2012 20:48, Noopur noopur.ra...@gmail.com wrote: Just for some motivation and amusement, watch this: *Where the hell is Matt? * http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlfKdbWwruY Cheers Noopur On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 10:11 AM, Subhashish Panigrahi su...@wikimedia.org wrote: Thanks a lot Swaroop, We are expecting more inputs from you guys, and please free to add/modify the questions wikipedians have to keep in mind ( http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Subha_WMF/sandbox1). I have also received responses from Pune and Ahemadabad communities. If you guys can shoot some videos at the end of the meet ups as there will be a gathering of wikipedians it will be good. We can make a prototype video to make the Indic language communities understand the way they need to make this video. Thanks Subha On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 9:41 PM, Swaroop Rao raul.swar...@gmail.comwrote: Swaroop Rao (MikeLynch http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:MikeLynch) On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 20:38, Noopur noopur.ra...@gmail.com wrote: Let me clear this confusion. Dear Srikanth R, *please* attempt to read the ENTIRE mail. I suggested recording in a popular format because converting and editing ogv is a PAIN. And, it reduces video quality by two times. +1 to that. OGV, for all its openness, is a big pain to work on, especially for converting. Another thing, if we are to upload these videos to Commons, *obviously* we will have to convert them to open formats. So, no one is denying that. It is rather obvious and understood. So now that we have cleared confusions, can the SIGs and guys organizing meetups please raise hands? Will you guys be able to do such recording? *raises hand* I am willing to create such a video; I appreciate Subha's mail about what exactly to say, but it shouldn't be a boring, mechanical interview-style answering of questions. If it is to motivate others, it should be catchy (read ad-like). On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 8:13 PM, Subhashish Panigrahi su...@wikimedia.org wrote: Well, that's the whole point. The final file to be hosted for public would be ogg and the backend work will involve raw file editing collected in different formats. On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 6:58 PM, Konarak Ratnakar konarak...@live.com wrote: Subhashis exactly, you might know this, but Xiph (developers of .ogg /.ogv) doesn't even endorse .ogv. And .ogg can be used with Matroska. Though I'll convert the videos in .ogv. Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 18:53:51 +0530 From: su...@wikimedia.org To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-in-en] Creating video of Indian Editors We Edit Wikipedia That sounds good Konarak, and apart from the loss of quality most handy cam users might not be aware of converting them to ogg, but once you convert raw footages to ogg there will be difficulty to edit, because normally the final avi/mpeg is converted to a open source format and uploaded in Commons. On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 6:35 PM, Konarak Ratnakar konarak...@live.com wrote: Hey Srikanth, that's fine by me, twas just a suggestion, because in .ogv there is loss of quality due to compression. Subhashish, I will, in the Meetup, it's on 19th of feb. Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 17:10:39 +0530 From: su...@wikimedia.org To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-in-en] Creating video of Indian Editors We Edit Wikipedia Yes, they are also being invited to participated, it's about Indian Editors and Indian faces. On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 5:06 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan parakara.gh...@gmail.com wrote: And what about participation of the Indian English Community? On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 3:33 AM, Subhashish Panigrahi su...@wikimedia.org wrote: Here are the answers I have to all of you. @Noopur: nice points, I am including them all and here is draft for the community which I will be posting in the respective Wikipedia Village pumps. (http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Subha_WMF/sandbox1) @Ashwin, the videos you, Nitika and Swaroop are working will be hardcore outreach videos to teach how to edit Wikipedia. @Konarak, thanks a lot buddy, let us get the footages and we would definitely seek your support for the post production. Moover, we would be more than happy if you lead the event to get the videos done in your place from the community members. @Srikanth, the final video will be in Commons and obviously with .ogv format. But the raw footage will be in .mov/avi/mpeg, they are the formats used before editing. After editing we will convert the final video into .ogv. On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 4:05 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan parakara.gh...@gmail.com wrote
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-in-en] Creating video of Indian Editors We Edit Wikipedia
Swaroop Rao (MikeLynch http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:MikeLynch) On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 20:38, Noopur noopur.ra...@gmail.com wrote: Let me clear this confusion. Dear Srikanth R, *please* attempt to read the ENTIRE mail. I suggested recording in a popular format because converting and editing ogv is a PAIN. And, it reduces video quality by two times. +1 to that. OGV, for all its openness, is a big pain to work on, especially for converting. Another thing, if we are to upload these videos to Commons, *obviously* we will have to convert them to open formats. So, no one is denying that. It is rather obvious and understood. So now that we have cleared confusions, can the SIGs and guys organizing meetups please raise hands? Will you guys be able to do such recording? *raises hand* I am willing to create such a video; I appreciate Subha's mail about what exactly to say, but it shouldn't be a boring, mechanical interview-style answering of questions. If it is to motivate others, it should be catchy (read ad-like). On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 8:13 PM, Subhashish Panigrahi su...@wikimedia.org wrote: Well, that's the whole point. The final file to be hosted for public would be ogg and the backend work will involve raw file editing collected in different formats. On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 6:58 PM, Konarak Ratnakar konarak...@live.com wrote: Subhashis exactly, you might know this, but Xiph (developers of .ogg /.ogv) doesn't even endorse .ogv. And .ogg can be used with Matroska. Though I'll convert the videos in .ogv. Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 18:53:51 +0530 From: su...@wikimedia.org To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-in-en] Creating video of Indian Editors We Edit Wikipedia That sounds good Konarak, and apart from the loss of quality most handy cam users might not be aware of converting them to ogg, but once you convert raw footages to ogg there will be difficulty to edit, because normally the final avi/mpeg is converted to a open source format and uploaded in Commons. On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 6:35 PM, Konarak Ratnakar konarak...@live.com wrote: Hey Srikanth, that's fine by me, twas just a suggestion, because in .ogv there is loss of quality due to compression. Subhashish, I will, in the Meetup, it's on 19th of feb. Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 17:10:39 +0530 From: su...@wikimedia.org To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-in-en] Creating video of Indian Editors We Edit Wikipedia Yes, they are also being invited to participated, it's about Indian Editors and Indian faces. On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 5:06 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan parakara.gh...@gmail.com wrote: And what about participation of the Indian English Community? On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 3:33 AM, Subhashish Panigrahi su...@wikimedia.org wrote: Here are the answers I have to all of you. @Noopur: nice points, I am including them all and here is draft for the community which I will be posting in the respective Wikipedia Village pumps. (http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Subha_WMF/sandbox1) @Ashwin, the videos you, Nitika and Swaroop are working will be hardcore outreach videos to teach how to edit Wikipedia. @Konarak, thanks a lot buddy, let us get the footages and we would definitely seek your support for the post production. Moover, we would be more than happy if you lead the event to get the videos done in your place from the community members. @Srikanth, the final video will be in Commons and obviously with .ogv format. But the raw footage will be in .mov/avi/mpeg, they are the formats used before editing. After editing we will convert the final video into .ogv. On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 4:05 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan parakara.gh...@gmail.com wrote: Subha, What about the Indian English Community? Noopur, Thanks for the ideas, but one small suggestion. Format- Keep it OGV. We can't be promoting an open project with a closed format video no? Konark, Good to see young brains like you volunteering on this. Ashwin, Can I have a link please? On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 9:41 AM, Ashwin Baindur ashwin.bain...@gmail.com wrote: Nitika MikeLynch some others have just begin working in this field and a prototype video on how to create an account has been made. Imho these efforts should be combined. Warm regards, Ashwin Baindur -- On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 10:59 PM, Konarak Ratnakar konarak...@live.com wrote: Hey, +1 to this, I can help(composing, editing). Konarak. Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 22:10:06 +0530 From: noopur.ra...@gmail.com To: wikimedia-in...@lists.wikimedia.org; wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-in-en] Creating video of Indian Editors We Edit Wikipedia
Thanks a lot Swaroop, We are expecting more inputs from you guys, and please free to add/modify the questions wikipedians have to keep in mind ( http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Subha_WMF/sandbox1). I have also received responses from Pune and Ahemadabad communities. If you guys can shoot some videos at the end of the meet ups as there will be a gathering of wikipedians it will be good. We can make a prototype video to make the Indic language communities understand the way they need to make this video. Thanks Subha On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 9:41 PM, Swaroop Rao raul.swar...@gmail.com wrote: Swaroop Rao (MikeLynch http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:MikeLynch) On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 20:38, Noopur noopur.ra...@gmail.com wrote: Let me clear this confusion. Dear Srikanth R, *please* attempt to read the ENTIRE mail. I suggested recording in a popular format because converting and editing ogv is a PAIN. And, it reduces video quality by two times. +1 to that. OGV, for all its openness, is a big pain to work on, especially for converting. Another thing, if we are to upload these videos to Commons, *obviously* we will have to convert them to open formats. So, no one is denying that. It is rather obvious and understood. So now that we have cleared confusions, can the SIGs and guys organizing meetups please raise hands? Will you guys be able to do such recording? *raises hand* I am willing to create such a video; I appreciate Subha's mail about what exactly to say, but it shouldn't be a boring, mechanical interview-style answering of questions. If it is to motivate others, it should be catchy (read ad-like). On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 8:13 PM, Subhashish Panigrahi su...@wikimedia.org wrote: Well, that's the whole point. The final file to be hosted for public would be ogg and the backend work will involve raw file editing collected in different formats. On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 6:58 PM, Konarak Ratnakar konarak...@live.com wrote: Subhashis exactly, you might know this, but Xiph (developers of .ogg /.ogv) doesn't even endorse .ogv. And .ogg can be used with Matroska. Though I'll convert the videos in .ogv. Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 18:53:51 +0530 From: su...@wikimedia.org To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-in-en] Creating video of Indian Editors We Edit Wikipedia That sounds good Konarak, and apart from the loss of quality most handy cam users might not be aware of converting them to ogg, but once you convert raw footages to ogg there will be difficulty to edit, because normally the final avi/mpeg is converted to a open source format and uploaded in Commons. On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 6:35 PM, Konarak Ratnakar konarak...@live.com wrote: Hey Srikanth, that's fine by me, twas just a suggestion, because in .ogv there is loss of quality due to compression. Subhashish, I will, in the Meetup, it's on 19th of feb. Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 17:10:39 +0530 From: su...@wikimedia.org To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-in-en] Creating video of Indian Editors We Edit Wikipedia Yes, they are also being invited to participated, it's about Indian Editors and Indian faces. On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 5:06 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan parakara.gh...@gmail.com wrote: And what about participation of the Indian English Community? On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 3:33 AM, Subhashish Panigrahi su...@wikimedia.org wrote: Here are the answers I have to all of you. @Noopur: nice points, I am including them all and here is draft for the community which I will be posting in the respective Wikipedia Village pumps. (http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Subha_WMF/sandbox1) @Ashwin, the videos you, Nitika and Swaroop are working will be hardcore outreach videos to teach how to edit Wikipedia. @Konarak, thanks a lot buddy, let us get the footages and we would definitely seek your support for the post production. Moover, we would be more than happy if you lead the event to get the videos done in your place from the community members. @Srikanth, the final video will be in Commons and obviously with .ogv format. But the raw footage will be in .mov/avi/mpeg, they are the formats used before editing. After editing we will convert the final video into .ogv. On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 4:05 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan parakara.gh...@gmail.com wrote: Subha, What about the Indian English Community? Noopur, Thanks for the ideas, but one small suggestion. Format- Keep it OGV. We can't be promoting an open project with a closed format video no? Konark, Good to see young brains like you volunteering on this. Ashwin, Can I have a link please? On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 9:41 AM, Ashwin Baindur ashwin.bain...@gmail.com wrote
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-in-en] Creating video of Indian Editors We Edit Wikipedia
Noopur, I'm sorry for the confusion caused. It isn't very obvious that Commons implies OGV. Not many people are aware of that. I still come across many who don't upload because they don't know how to convert. While on the subject, perhaps you and Arnav Sonara could do something about GLAM? --Re. On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 7:08 AM, Noopur noopur.ra...@gmail.com wrote: Let me clear this confusion. Dear Srikanth R, *please* attempt to read the ENTIRE mail. I suggested recording in a popular format because converting and editing ogv is a PAIN. And, it reduces video quality by two times. Another thing, if we are to upload these videos to Commons, *obviously* we will have to convert them to open formats. So, no one is denying that. It is rather obvious and understood. So now that we have cleared confusions, can the SIGs and guys organizing meetups please raise hands? Will you guys be able to do such recording? On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 8:13 PM, Subhashish Panigrahi su...@wikimedia.org wrote: Well, that's the whole point. The final file to be hosted for public would be ogg and the backend work will involve raw file editing collected in different formats. On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 6:58 PM, Konarak Ratnakar konarak...@live.com wrote: Subhashis exactly, you might know this, but Xiph (developers of .ogg /.ogv) doesn't even endorse .ogv. And .ogg can be used with Matroska. Though I'll convert the videos in .ogv. Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 18:53:51 +0530 From: su...@wikimedia.org To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-in-en] Creating video of Indian Editors We Edit Wikipedia That sounds good Konarak, and apart from the loss of quality most handy cam users might not be aware of converting them to ogg, but once you convert raw footages to ogg there will be difficulty to edit, because normally the final avi/mpeg is converted to a open source format and uploaded in Commons. On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 6:35 PM, Konarak Ratnakar konarak...@live.com wrote: Hey Srikanth, that's fine by me, twas just a suggestion, because in .ogv there is loss of quality due to compression. Subhashish, I will, in the Meetup, it's on 19th of feb. Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 17:10:39 +0530 From: su...@wikimedia.org To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-in-en] Creating video of Indian Editors We Edit Wikipedia Yes, they are also being invited to participated, it's about Indian Editors and Indian faces. On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 5:06 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan parakara.gh...@gmail.com wrote: And what about participation of the Indian English Community? On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 3:33 AM, Subhashish Panigrahi su...@wikimedia.org wrote: Here are the answers I have to all of you. @Noopur: nice points, I am including them all and here is draft for the community which I will be posting in the respective Wikipedia Village pumps. (http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Subha_WMF/sandbox1) @Ashwin, the videos you, Nitika and Swaroop are working will be hardcore outreach videos to teach how to edit Wikipedia. @Konarak, thanks a lot buddy, let us get the footages and we would definitely seek your support for the post production. Moover, we would be more than happy if you lead the event to get the videos done in your place from the community members. @Srikanth, the final video will be in Commons and obviously with .ogv format. But the raw footage will be in .mov/avi/mpeg, they are the formats used before editing. After editing we will convert the final video into .ogv. On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 4:05 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan parakara.gh...@gmail.com wrote: Subha, What about the Indian English Community? Noopur, Thanks for the ideas, but one small suggestion. Format- Keep it OGV. We can't be promoting an open project with a closed format video no? Konark, Good to see young brains like you volunteering on this. Ashwin, Can I have a link please? On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 9:41 AM, Ashwin Baindur ashwin.bain...@gmail.com wrote: Nitika MikeLynch some others have just begin working in this field and a prototype video on how to create an account has been made. Imho these efforts should be combined. Warm regards, Ashwin Baindur -- On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 10:59 PM, Konarak Ratnakar konarak...@live.com wrote: Hey, +1 to this, I can help(composing, editing). Konarak. Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 22:10:06 +0530 From: noopur.ra...@gmail.com To: wikimedia-in...@lists.wikimedia.org; wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-in-en] Creating video of Indian Editors We Edit Wikipedia Hey Subhashish, I
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-in-en] Creating video of Indian Editors We Edit Wikipedia
Subha, What about the Indian English Community? Noopur, Thanks for the ideas, but one small suggestion. Format- Keep it OGV. We can't be promoting an open project with a closed format video no? Konark, Good to see young brains like you volunteering on this. Ashwin, Can I have a link please? On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 9:41 AM, Ashwin Baindur ashwin.bain...@gmail.comwrote: Nitika MikeLynch some others have just begin working in this field and a prototype video on how to create an account has been made. Imho these efforts should be combined. Warm regards, Ashwin Baindur -- On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 10:59 PM, Konarak Ratnakar konarak...@live.com wrote: Hey, +1 to this, I can help(composing, editing). Konarak. Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 22:10:06 +0530 From: noopur.ra...@gmail.com To: wikimedia-in...@lists.wikimedia.org; wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-in-en] Creating video of Indian Editors We Edit Wikipedia Hey Subhashish, I think it's a great idea. In case people are thinking of recording such a video, I would love to help you edit and here are some suggestions for community members: 1) Put it on your next meetup agenda. Do it in the meetup itself 2) It could be one single person saying I edit wikipedia or a group. More than 1 is welcome 3) For editing purposes, it is better if you record video in room with LESS noise and MORE light 4) Try and keep video in MPEG, Avi or MP4, so that while editing we don't have to convert and lose quality. 5) You can use any normal digital camera, even your (iphone) camera :P Just try and minimize shaking. Cheers Noopur 2012/2/7 Subhashish Panigrahi su...@wikimedia.org: Deal all, As a part of helping the community to reach out to more people apart from the presentations, handouts, FAQs and mailing list support we also have need for more visuals. Audio/Video clips containing Indian Wikipedians sharing their message I EDIT WIKIPEDIA or I EDIT AN INDIAN LANGUAGE WIKIPEDIA or WIKIPEDIA IS HELPING ME DOCUMENTING MY HERITAGE will create impact among people and motivate them to contribute to Wikipedia. Many people use Wikipedia in a daily basis without being aware of they can also [Edit] it, social media, Youtube, mails containing link to such a video can be used to reach this message to them. Moreover, such videos which are already there in Outreach (outreach.wikimedia.org) Bookshelf might make some people feel it's project being managed by some foreigners. Seeing some real Indians editing Wikipedia with the Main page of an Indian language background will definitely make this message clearer. If there is a fairly good no of community members located in anywhere in India (e.g Pune, Bangalore and Mumbai community) we can ask the community members say it altogether aloud apart from one/two community members speaking in their own language. I will be posting the details in the community village pumps, you are allowed to send as many people's footage as you can provided the video and audio quality are reasonable good. We will be collecting footage from all the communities and do a post production. Subha Community Program Support, India Program Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikimedia-in-en mailing list wikimedia-in...@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-in-en -- Noopur Raval Student Arts and Aesthetics Jawaharlal Nehru University, New Delhi Ph: 9650567690 ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Regards, Srikanth Ramakrishnan. Wikipedia Coimbatore Meetup on February 12th. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetup/Coimbatore Aliens invaded Tamil Nadu, left their Spacship and now it is a Toll Plaza. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:IVRCL-Vijayamangalam-Toll-Plaza.JPG ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org
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Srikanth,The Theora (.ogv) format you are talking about, I don't think has a good quality, instead we should use Matroska (.mkv). Konarak Ratnakar. Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 02:35:40 -0800 From: parakara.gh...@gmail.com To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-in-en] Creating video of Indian Editors We Edit Wikipedia Subha, What about the Indian English Community? Noopur, Thanks for the ideas, but one small suggestion. Format- Keep it OGV. We can't be promoting an open project with a closed format video no? Konark, Good to see young brains like you volunteering on this. Ashwin, Can I have a link please? On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 9:41 AM, Ashwin Baindur ashwin.bain...@gmail.com wrote: Nitika MikeLynch some others have just begin working in this field and a prototype video on how to create an account has been made. Imho these efforts should be combined. Warm regards, Ashwin Baindur -- On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 10:59 PM, Konarak Ratnakar konarak...@live.com wrote: Hey, +1 to this, I can help(composing, editing). Konarak. Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 22:10:06 +0530 From: noopur.ra...@gmail.com To: wikimedia-in...@lists.wikimedia.org; wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-in-en] Creating video of Indian Editors We Edit Wikipedia Hey Subhashish, I think it's a great idea. In case people are thinking of recording such a video, I would love to help you edit and here are some suggestions for community members: 1) Put it on your next meetup agenda. Do it in the meetup itself 2) It could be one single person saying I edit wikipedia or a group. More than 1 is welcome 3) For editing purposes, it is better if you record video in room with LESS noise and MORE light 4) Try and keep video in MPEG, Avi or MP4, so that while editing we don't have to convert and lose quality. 5) You can use any normal digital camera, even your (iphone) camera :P Just try and minimize shaking. Cheers Noopur 2012/2/7 Subhashish Panigrahi su...@wikimedia.org: Deal all, As a part of helping the community to reach out to more people apart from the presentations, handouts, FAQs and mailing list support we also have need for more visuals. Audio/Video clips containing Indian Wikipedians sharing their message I EDIT WIKIPEDIA or I EDIT AN INDIAN LANGUAGE WIKIPEDIA or WIKIPEDIA IS HELPING ME DOCUMENTING MY HERITAGE will create impact among people and motivate them to contribute to Wikipedia. Many people use Wikipedia in a daily basis without being aware of they can also [Edit] it, social media, Youtube, mails containing link to such a video can be used to reach this message to them. Moreover, such videos which are already there in Outreach (outreach.wikimedia.org) Bookshelf might make some people feel it's project being managed by some foreigners. Seeing some real Indians editing Wikipedia with the Main page of an Indian language background will definitely make this message clearer. If there is a fairly good no of community members located in anywhere in India (e.g Pune, Bangalore and Mumbai community) we can ask the community members say it altogether aloud apart from one/two community members speaking in their own language. I will be posting the details in the community village pumps, you are allowed to send as many people's footage as you can provided the video and audio quality are reasonable good. We will be collecting footage from all the communities and do a post production. Subha Community Program Support, India Program Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikimedia-in-en mailing list wikimedia-in...@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-in-en -- Noopur Raval Student Arts and Aesthetics Jawaharlal Nehru University, New Delhi Ph: 9650567690 ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Regards, Srikanth Ramakrishnan. Wikipedia Coimbatore Meetup on February 12th. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetup
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The issue is not of quality, but of the format itself. OGV is an open format, and hence all videos on the Commons are also in the OGV format. Correspondingly, all audio is used in OGG. On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 3:11 AM, Konarak Ratnakar konarak...@live.comwrote: Srikanth, The Theora (.ogv) format you are talking about, I don't think has a good quality, instead we should use Matroska (.mkv). Konarak Ratnakar. -- Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 02:35:40 -0800 From: parakara.gh...@gmail.com To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-in-en] Creating video of Indian Editors We Edit Wikipedia Subha, What about the Indian English Community? Noopur, Thanks for the ideas, but one small suggestion. Format- Keep it OGV. We can't be promoting an open project with a closed format video no? Konark, Good to see young brains like you volunteering on this. Ashwin, Can I have a link please? On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 9:41 AM, Ashwin Baindur ashwin.bain...@gmail.comwrote: Nitika MikeLynch some others have just begin working in this field and a prototype video on how to create an account has been made. Imho these efforts should be combined. Warm regards, Ashwin Baindur -- On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 10:59 PM, Konarak Ratnakar konarak...@live.com wrote: Hey, +1 to this, I can help(composing, editing). Konarak. Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 22:10:06 +0530 From: noopur.ra...@gmail.com To: wikimedia-in...@lists.wikimedia.org; wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-in-en] Creating video of Indian Editors We Edit Wikipedia Hey Subhashish, I think it's a great idea. In case people are thinking of recording such a video, I would love to help you edit and here are some suggestions for community members: 1) Put it on your next meetup agenda. Do it in the meetup itself 2) It could be one single person saying I edit wikipedia or a group. More than 1 is welcome 3) For editing purposes, it is better if you record video in room with LESS noise and MORE light 4) Try and keep video in MPEG, Avi or MP4, so that while editing we don't have to convert and lose quality. 5) You can use any normal digital camera, even your (iphone) camera :P Just try and minimize shaking. Cheers Noopur 2012/2/7 Subhashish Panigrahi su...@wikimedia.org: Deal all, As a part of helping the community to reach out to more people apart from the presentations, handouts, FAQs and mailing list support we also have need for more visuals. Audio/Video clips containing Indian Wikipedians sharing their message I EDIT WIKIPEDIA or I EDIT AN INDIAN LANGUAGE WIKIPEDIA or WIKIPEDIA IS HELPING ME DOCUMENTING MY HERITAGE will create impact among people and motivate them to contribute to Wikipedia. Many people use Wikipedia in a daily basis without being aware of they can also [Edit] it, social media, Youtube, mails containing link to such a video can be used to reach this message to them. Moreover, such videos which are already there in Outreach (outreach.wikimedia.org) Bookshelf might make some people feel it's project being managed by some foreigners. Seeing some real Indians editing Wikipedia with the Main page of an Indian language background will definitely make this message clearer. If there is a fairly good no of community members located in anywhere in India (e.g Pune, Bangalore and Mumbai community) we can ask the community members say it altogether aloud apart from one/two community members speaking in their own language. I will be posting the details in the community village pumps, you are allowed to send as many people's footage as you can provided the video and audio quality are reasonable good. We will be collecting footage from all the communities and do a post production. Subha Community Program Support, India Program Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikimedia-in-en mailing list wikimedia-in...@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-in-en -- Noopur Raval Student Arts and Aesthetics Jawaharlal Nehru University, New Delhi Ph: 9650567690 ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia
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Here are the answers I have to all of you. @Noopur: nice points, I am including them all and here is draft for the community which I will be posting in the respective Wikipedia Village pumps. (http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Subha_WMF/sandbox1) @Ashwin, the videos you, Nitika and Swaroop are working will be hardcore outreach videos to teach how to edit Wikipedia. @Konarak, thanks a lot buddy, let us get the footages and we would definitely seek your support for the post production. Moover, we would be more than happy if you lead the event to get the videos done in your place from the community members. @Srikanth, the final video will be in Commons and obviously with .ogv format. But the raw footage will be in .mov/avi/mpeg, they are the formats used before editing. After editing we will convert the final video into .ogv. On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 4:05 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan parakara.gh...@gmail.com wrote: Subha, What about the Indian English Community? Noopur, Thanks for the ideas, but one small suggestion. Format- Keep it OGV. We can't be promoting an open project with a closed format video no? Konark, Good to see young brains like you volunteering on this. Ashwin, Can I have a link please? On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 9:41 AM, Ashwin Baindur ashwin.bain...@gmail.comwrote: Nitika MikeLynch some others have just begin working in this field and a prototype video on how to create an account has been made. Imho these efforts should be combined. Warm regards, Ashwin Baindur -- On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 10:59 PM, Konarak Ratnakar konarak...@live.com wrote: Hey, +1 to this, I can help(composing, editing). Konarak. Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 22:10:06 +0530 From: noopur.ra...@gmail.com To: wikimedia-in...@lists.wikimedia.org; wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-in-en] Creating video of Indian Editors We Edit Wikipedia Hey Subhashish, I think it's a great idea. In case people are thinking of recording such a video, I would love to help you edit and here are some suggestions for community members: 1) Put it on your next meetup agenda. Do it in the meetup itself 2) It could be one single person saying I edit wikipedia or a group. More than 1 is welcome 3) For editing purposes, it is better if you record video in room with LESS noise and MORE light 4) Try and keep video in MPEG, Avi or MP4, so that while editing we don't have to convert and lose quality. 5) You can use any normal digital camera, even your (iphone) camera :P Just try and minimize shaking. Cheers Noopur 2012/2/7 Subhashish Panigrahi su...@wikimedia.org: Deal all, As a part of helping the community to reach out to more people apart from the presentations, handouts, FAQs and mailing list support we also have need for more visuals. Audio/Video clips containing Indian Wikipedians sharing their message I EDIT WIKIPEDIA or I EDIT AN INDIAN LANGUAGE WIKIPEDIA or WIKIPEDIA IS HELPING ME DOCUMENTING MY HERITAGE will create impact among people and motivate them to contribute to Wikipedia. Many people use Wikipedia in a daily basis without being aware of they can also [Edit] it, social media, Youtube, mails containing link to such a video can be used to reach this message to them. Moreover, such videos which are already there in Outreach (outreach.wikimedia.org) Bookshelf might make some people feel it's project being managed by some foreigners. Seeing some real Indians editing Wikipedia with the Main page of an Indian language background will definitely make this message clearer. If there is a fairly good no of community members located in anywhere in India (e.g Pune, Bangalore and Mumbai community) we can ask the community members say it altogether aloud apart from one/two community members speaking in their own language. I will be posting the details in the community village pumps, you are allowed to send as many people's footage as you can provided the video and audio quality are reasonable good. We will be collecting footage from all the communities and do a post production. Subha Community Program Support, India Program Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikimedia-in-en mailing list wikimedia-in...@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-in-en -- Noopur Raval Student Arts and Aesthetics Jawaharlal Nehru University, New Delhi Ph: 9650567690 ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
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And what about participation of the Indian English Community? On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 3:33 AM, Subhashish Panigrahi su...@wikimedia.orgwrote: Here are the answers I have to all of you. @Noopur: nice points, I am including them all and here is draft for the community which I will be posting in the respective Wikipedia Village pumps. (http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Subha_WMF/sandbox1) @Ashwin, the videos you, Nitika and Swaroop are working will be hardcore outreach videos to teach how to edit Wikipedia. @Konarak, thanks a lot buddy, let us get the footages and we would definitely seek your support for the post production. Moover, we would be more than happy if you lead the event to get the videos done in your place from the community members. @Srikanth, the final video will be in Commons and obviously with .ogv format. But the raw footage will be in .mov/avi/mpeg, they are the formats used before editing. After editing we will convert the final video into .ogv. On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 4:05 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan parakara.gh...@gmail.com wrote: Subha, What about the Indian English Community? Noopur, Thanks for the ideas, but one small suggestion. Format- Keep it OGV. We can't be promoting an open project with a closed format video no? Konark, Good to see young brains like you volunteering on this. Ashwin, Can I have a link please? On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 9:41 AM, Ashwin Baindur ashwin.bain...@gmail.comwrote: Nitika MikeLynch some others have just begin working in this field and a prototype video on how to create an account has been made. Imho these efforts should be combined. Warm regards, Ashwin Baindur -- On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 10:59 PM, Konarak Ratnakar konarak...@live.com wrote: Hey, +1 to this, I can help(composing, editing). Konarak. Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 22:10:06 +0530 From: noopur.ra...@gmail.com To: wikimedia-in...@lists.wikimedia.org; wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-in-en] Creating video of Indian Editors We Edit Wikipedia Hey Subhashish, I think it's a great idea. In case people are thinking of recording such a video, I would love to help you edit and here are some suggestions for community members: 1) Put it on your next meetup agenda. Do it in the meetup itself 2) It could be one single person saying I edit wikipedia or a group. More than 1 is welcome 3) For editing purposes, it is better if you record video in room with LESS noise and MORE light 4) Try and keep video in MPEG, Avi or MP4, so that while editing we don't have to convert and lose quality. 5) You can use any normal digital camera, even your (iphone) camera :P Just try and minimize shaking. Cheers Noopur 2012/2/7 Subhashish Panigrahi su...@wikimedia.org: Deal all, As a part of helping the community to reach out to more people apart from the presentations, handouts, FAQs and mailing list support we also have need for more visuals. Audio/Video clips containing Indian Wikipedians sharing their message I EDIT WIKIPEDIA or I EDIT AN INDIAN LANGUAGE WIKIPEDIA or WIKIPEDIA IS HELPING ME DOCUMENTING MY HERITAGE will create impact among people and motivate them to contribute to Wikipedia. Many people use Wikipedia in a daily basis without being aware of they can also [Edit] it, social media, Youtube, mails containing link to such a video can be used to reach this message to them. Moreover, such videos which are already there in Outreach (outreach.wikimedia.org) Bookshelf might make some people feel it's project being managed by some foreigners. Seeing some real Indians editing Wikipedia with the Main page of an Indian language background will definitely make this message clearer. If there is a fairly good no of community members located in anywhere in India (e.g Pune, Bangalore and Mumbai community) we can ask the community members say it altogether aloud apart from one/two community members speaking in their own language. I will be posting the details in the community village pumps, you are allowed to send as many people's footage as you can provided the video and audio quality are reasonable good. We will be collecting footage from all the communities and do a post production. Subha Community Program Support, India Program Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikimedia-in-en mailing list wikimedia-in...@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-in-en -- Noopur Raval Student Arts and Aesthetics Jawaharlal Nehru University, New Delhi Ph: 9650567690 ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from
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Hey Srikanth, that's fine by me, twas just a suggestion, because in .ogv there is loss of quality due to compression. Subhashish, I will, in the Meetup, it's on 19th of feb. Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 17:10:39 +0530 From: su...@wikimedia.org To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-in-en] Creating video of Indian Editors We Edit Wikipedia Yes, they are also being invited to participated, it's about Indian Editors and Indian faces. On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 5:06 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan parakara.gh...@gmail.com wrote: And what about participation of the Indian English Community? On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 3:33 AM, Subhashish Panigrahi su...@wikimedia.org wrote: Here are the answers I have to all of you.@Noopur: nice points, I am including them all and here is draft for the community which I will be posting in the respective Wikipedia Village pumps. (http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Subha_WMF/sandbox1) @Ashwin, the videos you, Nitika and Swaroop are working will be hardcore outreach videos to teach how to edit Wikipedia.@Konarak, thanks a lot buddy, let us get the footages and we would definitely seek your support for the post production. Moover, we would be more than happy if you lead the event to get the videos done in your place from the community members. @Srikanth, the final video will be in Commons and obviously with .ogv format. But the raw footage will be in .mov/avi/mpeg, they are the formats used before editing. After editing we will convert the final video into .ogv. On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 4:05 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan parakara.gh...@gmail.com wrote: Subha, What about the Indian English Community? Noopur, Thanks for the ideas, but one small suggestion. Format- Keep it OGV. We can't be promoting an open project with a closed format video no? Konark, Good to see young brains like you volunteering on this. Ashwin, Can I have a link please? On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 9:41 AM, Ashwin Baindur ashwin.bain...@gmail.com wrote: Nitika MikeLynch some others have just begin working in this field and a prototype video on how to create an account has been made. Imho these efforts should be combined. Warm regards, Ashwin Baindur -- On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 10:59 PM, Konarak Ratnakar konarak...@live.com wrote: Hey, +1 to this, I can help(composing, editing). Konarak. Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 22:10:06 +0530 From: noopur.ra...@gmail.com To: wikimedia-in...@lists.wikimedia.org; wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-in-en] Creating video of Indian Editors We Edit Wikipedia Hey Subhashish, I think it's a great idea. In case people are thinking of recording such a video, I would love to help you edit and here are some suggestions for community members: 1) Put it on your next meetup agenda. Do it in the meetup itself 2) It could be one single person saying I edit wikipedia or a group. More than 1 is welcome 3) For editing purposes, it is better if you record video in room with LESS noise and MORE light 4) Try and keep video in MPEG, Avi or MP4, so that while editing we don't have to convert and lose quality. 5) You can use any normal digital camera, even your (iphone) camera :P Just try and minimize shaking. Cheers Noopur 2012/2/7 Subhashish Panigrahi su...@wikimedia.org: Deal all, As a part of helping the community to reach out to more people apart from the presentations, handouts, FAQs and mailing list support we also have need for more visuals. Audio/Video clips containing Indian Wikipedians sharing their message I EDIT WIKIPEDIA or I EDIT AN INDIAN LANGUAGE WIKIPEDIA or WIKIPEDIA IS HELPING ME DOCUMENTING MY HERITAGE will create impact among people and motivate them to contribute to Wikipedia. Many people use Wikipedia in a daily basis without being aware of they can also [Edit] it, social media, Youtube, mails containing link to such a video can be used to reach this message to them. Moreover, such videos which are already there in Outreach (outreach.wikimedia.org) Bookshelf might make some people feel it's project being managed by some foreigners. Seeing some real Indians editing Wikipedia with the Main page of an Indian language background will definitely make this message clearer. If there is a fairly good no of community members located in anywhere in India (e.g Pune, Bangalore and Mumbai community) we can ask the community members say it altogether aloud apart from one/two community members speaking in their own language. I will be posting the details in the community village pumps, you are allowed to send as many people's footage as you can provided the video and audio quality are reasonable good. We will be collecting footage from all
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Subhashis exactly, you might know this, but Xiph (developers of .ogg /.ogv) doesn't even endorse .ogv. And .ogg can be used with Matroska. Though I'll convert the videos in .ogv. Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 18:53:51 +0530 From: su...@wikimedia.org To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-in-en] Creating video of Indian Editors We Edit Wikipedia That sounds good Konarak, and apart from the loss of quality most handy cam users might not be aware of converting them to ogg, but once you convert raw footages to ogg there will be difficulty to edit, because normally the final avi/mpeg is converted to a open source format and uploaded in Commons. On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 6:35 PM, Konarak Ratnakar konarak...@live.com wrote: Hey Srikanth, that's fine by me, twas just a suggestion, because in .ogv there is loss of quality due to compression. Subhashish, I will, in the Meetup, it's on 19th of feb. Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 17:10:39 +0530 From: su...@wikimedia.org To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-in-en] Creating video of Indian Editors We Edit Wikipedia Yes, they are also being invited to participated, it's about Indian Editors and Indian faces. On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 5:06 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan parakara.gh...@gmail.com wrote: And what about participation of the Indian English Community? On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 3:33 AM, Subhashish Panigrahi su...@wikimedia.org wrote: Here are the answers I have to all of you.@Noopur: nice points, I am including them all and here is draft for the community which I will be posting in the respective Wikipedia Village pumps. (http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Subha_WMF/sandbox1) @Ashwin, the videos you, Nitika and Swaroop are working will be hardcore outreach videos to teach how to edit Wikipedia.@Konarak, thanks a lot buddy, let us get the footages and we would definitely seek your support for the post production. Moover, we would be more than happy if you lead the event to get the videos done in your place from the community members. @Srikanth, the final video will be in Commons and obviously with .ogv format. But the raw footage will be in .mov/avi/mpeg, they are the formats used before editing. After editing we will convert the final video into .ogv. On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 4:05 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan parakara.gh...@gmail.com wrote: Subha, What about the Indian English Community? Noopur, Thanks for the ideas, but one small suggestion. Format- Keep it OGV. We can't be promoting an open project with a closed format video no? Konark, Good to see young brains like you volunteering on this. Ashwin, Can I have a link please? On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 9:41 AM, Ashwin Baindur ashwin.bain...@gmail.com wrote: Nitika MikeLynch some others have just begin working in this field and a prototype video on how to create an account has been made. Imho these efforts should be combined. Warm regards, Ashwin Baindur -- On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 10:59 PM, Konarak Ratnakar konarak...@live.com wrote: Hey, +1 to this, I can help(composing, editing). Konarak. Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 22:10:06 +0530 From: noopur.ra...@gmail.com To: wikimedia-in...@lists.wikimedia.org; wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-in-en] Creating video of Indian Editors We Edit Wikipedia Hey Subhashish, I think it's a great idea. In case people are thinking of recording such a video, I would love to help you edit and here are some suggestions for community members: 1) Put it on your next meetup agenda. Do it in the meetup itself 2) It could be one single person saying I edit wikipedia or a group. More than 1 is welcome 3) For editing purposes, it is better if you record video in room with LESS noise and MORE light 4) Try and keep video in MPEG, Avi or MP4, so that while editing we don't have to convert and lose quality. 5) You can use any normal digital camera, even your (iphone) camera :P Just try and minimize shaking. Cheers Noopur 2012/2/7 Subhashish Panigrahi su...@wikimedia.org: Deal all, As a part of helping the community to reach out to more people apart from the presentations, handouts, FAQs and mailing list support we also have need for more visuals. Audio/Video clips containing Indian Wikipedians sharing their message I EDIT WIKIPEDIA or I EDIT AN INDIAN LANGUAGE WIKIPEDIA or WIKIPEDIA IS HELPING ME DOCUMENTING MY HERITAGE will create impact among people and motivate them to contribute to Wikipedia. Many people use Wikipedia in a daily basis without being aware of they can also [Edit] it, social media, Youtube, mails containing link to such a video can be used to reach this message to them. Moreover, such videos which are already
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-in-en] Creating video of Indian Editors We Edit Wikipedia
Well, that's the whole point. The final file to be hosted for public would be ogg and the backend work will involve raw file editing collected in different formats. On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 6:58 PM, Konarak Ratnakar konarak...@live.comwrote: Subhashis exactly, you might know this, but Xiph (developers of .ogg /.ogv) doesn't even endorse .ogv. And .ogg can be used with Matroska. Though I'll convert the videos in .ogv. -- Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 18:53:51 +0530 From: su...@wikimedia.org To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-in-en] Creating video of Indian Editors We Edit Wikipedia That sounds good Konarak, and apart from the loss of quality most handy cam users might not be aware of converting them to ogg, but once you convert raw footages to ogg there will be difficulty to edit, because normally the final avi/mpeg is converted to a open source format and uploaded in Commons. On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 6:35 PM, Konarak Ratnakar konarak...@live.comwrote: Hey Srikanth, that's fine by me, twas just a suggestion, because in .ogv there is loss of quality due to compression. Subhashish, I will, in the Meetup, it's on 19th of feb. -- Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 17:10:39 +0530 From: su...@wikimedia.org To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-in-en] Creating video of Indian Editors We Edit Wikipedia Yes, they are also being invited to participated, it's about Indian Editors and Indian faces. On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 5:06 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan parakara.gh...@gmail.com wrote: And what about participation of the Indian English Community? On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 3:33 AM, Subhashish Panigrahi su...@wikimedia.orgwrote: Here are the answers I have to all of you. @Noopur: nice points, I am including them all and here is draft for the community which I will be posting in the respective Wikipedia Village pumps. (http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Subha_WMF/sandbox1) @Ashwin, the videos you, Nitika and Swaroop are working will be hardcore outreach videos to teach how to edit Wikipedia. @Konarak, thanks a lot buddy, let us get the footages and we would definitely seek your support for the post production. Moover, we would be more than happy if you lead the event to get the videos done in your place from the community members. @Srikanth, the final video will be in Commons and obviously with .ogv format. But the raw footage will be in .mov/avi/mpeg, they are the formats used before editing. After editing we will convert the final video into .ogv. On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 4:05 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan parakara.gh...@gmail.com wrote: Subha, What about the Indian English Community? Noopur, Thanks for the ideas, but one small suggestion. Format- Keep it OGV. We can't be promoting an open project with a closed format video no? Konark, Good to see young brains like you volunteering on this. Ashwin, Can I have a link please? On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 9:41 AM, Ashwin Baindur ashwin.bain...@gmail.comwrote: Nitika MikeLynch some others have just begin working in this field and a prototype video on how to create an account has been made. Imho these efforts should be combined. Warm regards, Ashwin Baindur -- On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 10:59 PM, Konarak Ratnakar konarak...@live.com wrote: Hey, +1 to this, I can help(composing, editing). Konarak. Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 22:10:06 +0530 From: noopur.ra...@gmail.com To: wikimedia-in...@lists.wikimedia.org; wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-in-en] Creating video of Indian Editors We Edit Wikipedia Hey Subhashish, I think it's a great idea. In case people are thinking of recording such a video, I would love to help you edit and here are some suggestions for community members: 1) Put it on your next meetup agenda. Do it in the meetup itself 2) It could be one single person saying I edit wikipedia or a group. More than 1 is welcome 3) For editing purposes, it is better if you record video in room with LESS noise and MORE light 4) Try and keep video in MPEG, Avi or MP4, so that while editing we don't have to convert and lose quality. 5) You can use any normal digital camera, even your (iphone) camera :P Just try and minimize shaking. Cheers Noopur 2012/2/7 Subhashish Panigrahi su...@wikimedia.org: Deal all, As a part of helping the community to reach out to more people apart from the presentations, handouts, FAQs and mailing list support we also have need for more visuals. Audio/Video clips containing Indian Wikipedians sharing their message I EDIT WIKIPEDIA or I EDIT AN INDIAN LANGUAGE WIKIPEDIA or WIKIPEDIA IS HELPING ME DOCUMENTING MY HERITAGE will create impact among people
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-in-en] Creating video of Indian Editors We Edit Wikipedia
Let me clear this confusion. Dear Srikanth R, *please* attempt to read the ENTIRE mail. I suggested recording in a popular format because converting and editing ogv is a PAIN. And, it reduces video quality by two times. Another thing, if we are to upload these videos to Commons, *obviously* we will have to convert them to open formats. So, no one is denying that. It is rather obvious and understood. So now that we have cleared confusions, can the SIGs and guys organizing meetups please raise hands? Will you guys be able to do such recording? On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 8:13 PM, Subhashish Panigrahi su...@wikimedia.org wrote: Well, that's the whole point. The final file to be hosted for public would be ogg and the backend work will involve raw file editing collected in different formats. On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 6:58 PM, Konarak Ratnakar konarak...@live.com wrote: Subhashis exactly, you might know this, but Xiph (developers of .ogg /.ogv) doesn't even endorse .ogv. And .ogg can be used with Matroska. Though I'll convert the videos in .ogv. Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 18:53:51 +0530 From: su...@wikimedia.org To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-in-en] Creating video of Indian Editors We Edit Wikipedia That sounds good Konarak, and apart from the loss of quality most handy cam users might not be aware of converting them to ogg, but once you convert raw footages to ogg there will be difficulty to edit, because normally the final avi/mpeg is converted to a open source format and uploaded in Commons. On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 6:35 PM, Konarak Ratnakar konarak...@live.com wrote: Hey Srikanth, that's fine by me, twas just a suggestion, because in .ogv there is loss of quality due to compression. Subhashish, I will, in the Meetup, it's on 19th of feb. Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 17:10:39 +0530 From: su...@wikimedia.org To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-in-en] Creating video of Indian Editors We Edit Wikipedia Yes, they are also being invited to participated, it's about Indian Editors and Indian faces. On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 5:06 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan parakara.gh...@gmail.com wrote: And what about participation of the Indian English Community? On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 3:33 AM, Subhashish Panigrahi su...@wikimedia.org wrote: Here are the answers I have to all of you. @Noopur: nice points, I am including them all and here is draft for the community which I will be posting in the respective Wikipedia Village pumps. (http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Subha_WMF/sandbox1) @Ashwin, the videos you, Nitika and Swaroop are working will be hardcore outreach videos to teach how to edit Wikipedia. @Konarak, thanks a lot buddy, let us get the footages and we would definitely seek your support for the post production. Moover, we would be more than happy if you lead the event to get the videos done in your place from the community members. @Srikanth, the final video will be in Commons and obviously with .ogv format. But the raw footage will be in .mov/avi/mpeg, they are the formats used before editing. After editing we will convert the final video into .ogv. On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 4:05 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan parakara.gh...@gmail.com wrote: Subha, What about the Indian English Community? Noopur, Thanks for the ideas, but one small suggestion. Format- Keep it OGV. We can't be promoting an open project with a closed format video no? Konark, Good to see young brains like you volunteering on this. Ashwin, Can I have a link please? On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 9:41 AM, Ashwin Baindur ashwin.bain...@gmail.com wrote: Nitika MikeLynch some others have just begin working in this field and a prototype video on how to create an account has been made. Imho these efforts should be combined. Warm regards, Ashwin Baindur -- On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 10:59 PM, Konarak Ratnakar konarak...@live.com wrote: Hey, +1 to this, I can help(composing, editing). Konarak. Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 22:10:06 +0530 From: noopur.ra...@gmail.com To: wikimedia-in...@lists.wikimedia.org; wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-in-en] Creating video of Indian Editors We Edit Wikipedia Hey Subhashish, I think it's a great idea. In case people are thinking of recording such a video, I would love to help you edit and here are some suggestions for community members: 1) Put it on your next meetup agenda. Do it in the meetup itself 2) It could be one single person saying I edit wikipedia or a group. More than 1 is welcome 3) For editing purposes, it is better if you record video in room with LESS noise and MORE light 4) Try and keep video in MPEG, Avi or MP4, so that while editing we don't have
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-in-en] Creating video of Indian Editors We Edit Wikipedia
Hey Subhashish, I think it's a great idea. In case people are thinking of recording such a video, I would love to help you edit and here are some suggestions for community members: 1) Put it on your next meetup agenda. Do it in the meetup itself 2) It could be one single person saying I edit wikipedia or a group. More than 1 is welcome 3) For editing purposes, it is better if you record video in room with LESS noise and MORE light 4) Try and keep video in MPEG, Avi or MP4, so that while editing we don't have to convert and lose quality. 5) You can use any normal digital camera, even your (iphone) camera :P Just try and minimize shaking. Cheers Noopur 2012/2/7 Subhashish Panigrahi su...@wikimedia.org: Deal all, As a part of helping the community to reach out to more people apart from the presentations, handouts, FAQs and mailing list support we also have need for more visuals. Audio/Video clips containing Indian Wikipedians sharing their message I EDIT WIKIPEDIA or I EDIT AN INDIAN LANGUAGE WIKIPEDIA or WIKIPEDIA IS HELPING ME DOCUMENTING MY HERITAGE will create impact among people and motivate them to contribute to Wikipedia. Many people use Wikipedia in a daily basis without being aware of they can also [Edit] it, social media, Youtube, mails containing link to such a video can be used to reach this message to them. Moreover, such videos which are already there in Outreach (outreach.wikimedia.org) Bookshelf might make some people feel it's project being managed by some foreigners. Seeing some real Indians editing Wikipedia with the Main page of an Indian language background will definitely make this message clearer. If there is a fairly good no of community members located in anywhere in India (e.g Pune, Bangalore and Mumbai community) we can ask the community members say it altogether aloud apart from one/two community members speaking in their own language. I will be posting the details in the community village pumps, you are allowed to send as many people's footage as you can provided the video and audio quality are reasonable good. We will be collecting footage from all the communities and do a post production. Subha Community Program Support, India Program Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikimedia-in-en mailing list wikimedia-in...@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-in-en -- Noopur Raval Student Arts and Aesthetics Jawaharlal Nehru University, New Delhi Ph: 9650567690 ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-in-en] Creating video of Indian Editors We Edit Wikipedia
Hey,+1 to this, I can help(composing, editing).Konarak. Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 22:10:06 +0530 From: noopur.ra...@gmail.com To: wikimedia-in...@lists.wikimedia.org; wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-in-en] Creating video of Indian Editors We Edit Wikipedia Hey Subhashish, I think it's a great idea. In case people are thinking of recording such a video, I would love to help you edit and here are some suggestions for community members: 1) Put it on your next meetup agenda. Do it in the meetup itself 2) It could be one single person saying I edit wikipedia or a group. More than 1 is welcome 3) For editing purposes, it is better if you record video in room with LESS noise and MORE light 4) Try and keep video in MPEG, Avi or MP4, so that while editing we don't have to convert and lose quality. 5) You can use any normal digital camera, even your (iphone) camera :P Just try and minimize shaking. Cheers Noopur 2012/2/7 Subhashish Panigrahi su...@wikimedia.org: Deal all, As a part of helping the community to reach out to more people apart from the presentations, handouts, FAQs and mailing list support we also have need for more visuals. Audio/Video clips containing Indian Wikipedians sharing their message I EDIT WIKIPEDIA or I EDIT AN INDIAN LANGUAGE WIKIPEDIA or WIKIPEDIA IS HELPING ME DOCUMENTING MY HERITAGE will create impact among people and motivate them to contribute to Wikipedia. Many people use Wikipedia in a daily basis without being aware of they can also [Edit] it, social media, Youtube, mails containing link to such a video can be used to reach this message to them. Moreover, such videos which are already there in Outreach (outreach.wikimedia.org) Bookshelf might make some people feel it's project being managed by some foreigners. Seeing some real Indians editing Wikipedia with the Main page of an Indian language background will definitely make this message clearer. If there is a fairly good no of community members located in anywhere in India (e.g Pune, Bangalore and Mumbai community) we can ask the community members say it altogether aloud apart from one/two community members speaking in their own language. I will be posting the details in the community village pumps, you are allowed to send as many people's footage as you can provided the video and audio quality are reasonable good. We will be collecting footage from all the communities and do a post production. Subha Community Program Support, India Program Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikimedia-in-en mailing list wikimedia-in...@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-in-en -- Noopur Raval Student Arts and Aesthetics Jawaharlal Nehru University, New Delhi Ph: 9650567690 ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-in-en] Creating video of Indian Editors We Edit Wikipedia
Nitika MikeLynch some others have just begin working in this field and a prototype video on how to create an account has been made. Imho these efforts should be combined. Warm regards, Ashwin Baindur -- On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 10:59 PM, Konarak Ratnakar konarak...@live.com wrote: Hey, +1 to this, I can help(composing, editing). Konarak. Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 22:10:06 +0530 From: noopur.ra...@gmail.com To: wikimedia-in...@lists.wikimedia.org; wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-in-en] Creating video of Indian Editors We Edit Wikipedia Hey Subhashish, I think it's a great idea. In case people are thinking of recording such a video, I would love to help you edit and here are some suggestions for community members: 1) Put it on your next meetup agenda. Do it in the meetup itself 2) It could be one single person saying I edit wikipedia or a group. More than 1 is welcome 3) For editing purposes, it is better if you record video in room with LESS noise and MORE light 4) Try and keep video in MPEG, Avi or MP4, so that while editing we don't have to convert and lose quality. 5) You can use any normal digital camera, even your (iphone) camera :P Just try and minimize shaking. Cheers Noopur 2012/2/7 Subhashish Panigrahi su...@wikimedia.org: Deal all, As a part of helping the community to reach out to more people apart from the presentations, handouts, FAQs and mailing list support we also have need for more visuals. Audio/Video clips containing Indian Wikipedians sharing their message I EDIT WIKIPEDIA or I EDIT AN INDIAN LANGUAGE WIKIPEDIA or WIKIPEDIA IS HELPING ME DOCUMENTING MY HERITAGE will create impact among people and motivate them to contribute to Wikipedia. Many people use Wikipedia in a daily basis without being aware of they can also [Edit] it, social media, Youtube, mails containing link to such a video can be used to reach this message to them. Moreover, such videos which are already there in Outreach (outreach.wikimedia.org) Bookshelf might make some people feel it's project being managed by some foreigners. Seeing some real Indians editing Wikipedia with the Main page of an Indian language background will definitely make this message clearer. If there is a fairly good no of community members located in anywhere in India (e.g Pune, Bangalore and Mumbai community) we can ask the community members say it altogether aloud apart from one/two community members speaking in their own language. I will be posting the details in the community village pumps, you are allowed to send as many people's footage as you can provided the video and audio quality are reasonable good. We will be collecting footage from all the communities and do a post production. Subha Community Program Support, India Program Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikimedia-in-en mailing list wikimedia-in...@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-in-en -- Noopur Raval Student Arts and Aesthetics Jawaharlal Nehru University, New Delhi Ph: 9650567690 ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
