Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Proposal for India's First MediaWiki Group Ahmedabad

2013-01-27 Thread Bence Damokos
Hi Yuvi, An agreement was reached that the group would first seek recognition as a Wikimedia Chapter SIG and then as a Wikimedia User Group. Best regards, Bence On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 4:40 AM, Yuvi Panda yuvipa...@gmail.com wrote: Seems to have stalled? Any update on this from AffCom /

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Proposal for India's First MediaWiki Group Ahmedabad

2013-01-27 Thread Dhaval S. Vyas
Thank you Bence for making this public, as it seems that even I missed to see that agreement announced here. Regards, Dhaval On 27 Jan 2013 17:04, Bence Damokos bdamo...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Yuvi, An agreement was reached that the group would first seek recognition as a Wikimedia Chapter SIG

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Proposal for India's First MediaWiki Group Ahmedabad

2013-01-23 Thread Yuvi Panda
Seems to have stalled? Any update on this from AffCom / Chapter? -- Yuvi Panda T http://yuvi.in/blog ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Proposal for India's First MediaWiki Group Ahmedabad

2013-01-07 Thread Pradeep Mohandas
From: Arun Ramarathnam arunra...@gmail.com To: Wikimedia India Community list wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Sunday, 6 January 2013 6:06 PM Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Proposal for India's First MediaWiki Group Ahmedabad Dear Harsh, First of all

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Proposal for India's First MediaWiki Group Ahmedabad

2013-01-06 Thread Arun Ramarathnam
Dear Harsh, First of all thanks to you and the volunteers in Ahmendabad who are keen to contribute to Mediawiki. it is evident from your contributions to Gujarati (around Mediawiki) that you and others are very interested to do your bit. Please continue to do this with the passion and the

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Proposal for India's First MediaWiki Group Ahmedabad

2013-01-05 Thread Harsh Kothari
Hi All Since there is long discussion about MediaWiki Group Ahmedabad I am writing this mail to give some points to you. 1st and most important point: all the motivation and why I am promoting this group is clearcut written in our submission.

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Proposal for India's First MediaWiki Group Ahmedabad

2013-01-04 Thread Konarak Ratnakar
Hi, A local MediaWiki Group is a nice initiative be it in Ahmedabad or anywhere else as long as there are enthusiastic volunteers involved. It'll be nice to see this group come to life (MediaWiki group Ahmedabad or a chapter SIG). I must say it's quite awkward not seeing any involvement of

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Proposal for India's First MediaWiki Group Ahmedabad

2013-01-04 Thread Quim Gil
On 01/03/2013 10:02 AM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan wrote: Just to let you all know: Our Executive Manager Sowmyan met Erik some time back and asked if he needed any help from the chapter. Erik said we could hold quarterly hackathons in different parts of India. We are more than happy to do this and

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Proposal for India's First MediaWiki Group Ahmedabad

2013-01-04 Thread Quim Gil
On 01/03/2013 08:37 AM, Theo10011 wrote: So, to summarize again, Quim, a staff member, and you, a No, https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Groups were proposed at the MediaWiki community and wikimedia-l, they were discussed also with the Affiliations Committee and they were finally approved and

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Proposal for India's First MediaWiki Group Ahmedabad

2013-01-04 Thread Dhaval S. Vyas
That is exactly what I was wondering as well Konarak. On 4 Jan 2013 15:15, Konarak Ratnakar konarak...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, A local MediaWiki Group is a nice initiative be it in Ahmedabad or anywhere else as long as there are enthusiastic volunteers involved. It'll be nice to see this group

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Proposal for India's First MediaWiki Group Ahmedabad

2013-01-04 Thread Theo10011
howdy Quim I'll reply to your earlier post and state my main objection to this before stopping. I don't really care as much as I might be leading you to believe, so I should disengage. I care more for the larger picture. But I just want to point out some minor discrepancies that might be

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Proposal for India's First MediaWiki Group Ahmedabad

2013-01-04 Thread Theo10011
So here's my main concern. On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 6:33 PM, Quim Gil q...@wikimedia.org wrote: But the point that keeps me thinking is why the first response from Wikimedia India chapter to a new group of volunteers seems to be inquiring and resisting more than congratulating and embracing.

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Proposal for India's First MediaWiki Group Ahmedabad

2013-01-04 Thread Bence Damokos
Hi Theo, I think the historical context you put the Ahmedabad group in is fascinating, but imputing the creation of the proposed group to yet another WMF-led half-baked initiative is unfair. Wikimedia User Groups are finally getting off the ground; while the page might contain edits from me, it

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Proposal for India's First MediaWiki Group Ahmedabad

2013-01-04 Thread Alolita Sharma
My two cents based on two decades of experience in open source and growing adoption and contributions in India: Mediawiki is an open source project which has community members contributing to it globally. Having a technical Mediawiki user group with developers gathering together for face-to-face

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Proposal for India's First MediaWiki Group Ahmedabad

2013-01-03 Thread Srikanth Ramakrishnan
Noopur, Thank you for your response, However, you still haven't answered my question on what benefit a User Group has over Chapter SIG. The Chapter was set up to help promote and streamline Wikimedia related activities in India. We have been asked by affcom and your response would greatly help us

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Proposal for India's First MediaWiki Group Ahmedabad

2013-01-03 Thread Noopur
The same question could be asked of any collective with a Wikipedia related goal. However, it could also be asked if in the Wikiverse (which supremely thrives on the value of collaborative work), it is inappropriate or redundant to form new collaboratives (like MediaWiki group or other specific

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Proposal for India's First MediaWiki Group Ahmedabad

2013-01-03 Thread Srikanth Ramakrishnan
Hi, I never mentioned anything about being part of the chapter. The chapter was set up to promote the movement in India and it has done so even in cases where a person/participant was NOT a part of the chapter.. I merely asked what benefit the Group recieves by taking the User Group route over the

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Proposal for India's First MediaWiki Group Ahmedabad

2013-01-03 Thread Theo10011
On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 6:25 PM, Noopur noopur.ra...@gmail.com wrote: The same question could be asked of any collective with a Wikipedia related goal. However, it could also be asked if in the Wikiverse (which supremely thrives on the value of collaborative work), it is inappropriate or

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Proposal for India's First MediaWiki Group Ahmedabad

2013-01-03 Thread samkit...@gmail.com
Truly said Quim and Noopur. The idea and motivation behind mediawiki group is to encourage open source activities, particularly about MediaWiki. At the same time, it also brings to gather people who are working and can work in this perspective. So every wikimedian should welcome this .

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Proposal for India's First MediaWiki Group Ahmedabad

2013-01-03 Thread Yuvi Panda
On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 8:21 PM, Theo10011 de10...@gmail.com wrote: Could you provide some URL to point to how this idea of groups came upon for India. I only saw the staff leading the way for this instead of this coming about organically. This happened on IRC over a few hours, between me,

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Proposal for India's First MediaWiki Group Ahmedabad

2013-01-03 Thread Theo10011
Hi Yuvi On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 9:37 PM, Yuvi Panda yuvipa...@gmail.com wrote: This happened on IRC over a few hours, between me, quim and harsh. Most of the conversation was quim convincing me that a mediawiki-india list would be a much better Idea than a MediaWiki India User Group (which he

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Proposal for India's First MediaWiki Group Ahmedabad

2013-01-03 Thread Quim Gil
Hi Theo, I will reply your questions in detail later. I just want to make sure that anybody engaging in this discussion has read https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Groups and understands what a MediaWiki Group is. The motivations, process, etc is also explained there. If there is something there

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Proposal for India's First MediaWiki Group Ahmedabad

2013-01-03 Thread Noopur
Theo, I am not sure where this discussion is going to. Srikanth had specific questions on why the MediaWiki user group and why not a technical SIG instead. At least that's what I gather from his mail. However you seem to be asking why a MediaWiki user group at all. For this you will need to

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Proposal for India's First MediaWiki Group Ahmedabad

2013-01-03 Thread Pradeep Mohandas
hi, Frankly, I don't thing there should be any objections on the formation of any groups whether by the Chapter or by individual members in the community or by Staff. This just provides people with a variety of options to join and participate. The groups formed with reference to the Chapter or

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Proposal for India's First MediaWiki Group Ahmedabad

2012-12-29 Thread Srikanth Ramakrishnan
Hi Harsh, I have a few questions. Was there any specific reason to go for a Separate MW Group? Is it due to legal/trademark issues or funding? I'm sure that those two could be sorted if it were taken up by the Chapter similar to an SIG model. On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 3:08 PM, Harsh Kothari

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Proposal for India's First MediaWiki Group Ahmedabad

2012-12-29 Thread Noopur
Hey Srikanth, Just weighing in since I also happen to be supporting this process. Perhaps a little background is necessary to know why MediaWiki groups have been started as an initiative. Also copying Quim since he might be able to shed more light on this issue. As I understand from the proposal