Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] WikiAcademy Mumbai 1 notes

[wheredevelsdare]

Photos taken on the day:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:WikiAcademy_Mumbai_1_img1.jpg



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Wiki_Academy_Mumbai_1.jpg

Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2011 00:01:48 +0530
From: pradeep.mohan...@gmail.com
To: wikimedia-in-...@lists.wikimedia.org; wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: [Wikimediaindia-l] WikiAcademy Mumbai 1 notes

hi,
Warning: This is a lnggg email.
We held our first WikiAcademy in Mumbai on October 1, 2011 at the Center for 
Education and Documentation, Colaba. The session was attended by 24 attendees. 
Roughly, the sessions were:

1. Introduction2. Creating accounts on Wikipedia3. Introduction to the 
interface4. Rules related to Wikipedia (5 Pillars, AGF etc.)5. Go out and edit

This was our first experience with such an Academy and hence this note is a bit 
detailed.
Many of the folks who came had used Wikipedia but had hardly ever edited 
Wikipedia. There was a lot of questioning around the reliability of Wikipedia 
as a resource. We had the services of Vickram Crishna to answer these 
questions. After the round of introductions, we got them acquainted with 
accessing Wikipedia, familiarising them with the English Wikipedia main page. 

The attendees were very interested in learning how to edit Wikipedia and wanted 
to learn right from the creating accounts on Wikipedia stage. This we did, only 
to realise the limitation existed on creation of not more than 6 accounts per 
IP address. We got around this limitation by allowing people to register with 
dongles that a few people carried with them. Next time, perhaps making an 
upfront request to allow more account creations from a single IP address before 
the Academy might be a wise thing to do. Any other suggestions?

Even after logging in the attendees appreciated a "Get to know your Screen" 
session. 
Pranav then shed some light on the rules of the Wikipedia (frankly, I have 
never read this until a few days before the Academy!). Kundan Amitabh also 
pitched in to help with a few that Pranav didn't know about. Kundan also urged 
them to not give up on Wikipedia if their articles or sections of articles were 
deleted. Keep trying! was the call! 

In the last go out and edit session, we allowed participants to edit what they 
liked. We moved among the audience helping where help was needed. We encouraged 
the users to use the various icons on the WYSIWIG editor rather than learn the 
Wikisyntax. We think that working on this for a few days will help them learn 
things on their own. 

There was a diverse audience with requests for specific follow up sessions. We 
think that we could have concluded more properly than we did. 
warm regards,Pradeep Mohandas
PS: Apologies for the delay in posting this!
-- 
Pradeep Mohandas
How Pradeep uses email - http://goo.gl/6v1I9





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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] WikiAcademy Mumbai 1 notes

[Arjuna Rao Chavala]

On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 3:29 PM, Srikanth Lakshmanan wrote:

>
>
> On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 15:21, Arjuna Rao Chavala wrote:
>
>>
>> I too faced difficulties some times. Anonmous editing usually worked,
>> unless the IP itself is blocked. Sometimes while English wiki had access
>> problems, Kannada wiki was accessible for edits.  Do you know whom to
>> request for this?
>>
>
> Refer [1]. Most(or All?) stewards can do is my guess.
> #wikimedia-stewardsconnect
>  on
> IRC should be able to help out and mostly some one or other is available 24
> * 7 (Nice folks! ).
>
> Thanks Srikanth, I will try the next time around.

> Oh, btw, current steward elections are currently on, if you havent voted
> please do!
>
>
>
>> One solution I think is to setup/use a test wiki, with out constraints for
>> people to practice and then manage it by probably deleting  the content
>> periodically.
>>
>
> Not that everyone can do quickly / always feasible.
>
My idea was for  a permanent  infrastructure say training wiki that
Foundation/Chapter could setup and manage.

Cheers
Arjun
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] WikiAcademy Mumbai 1 notes

[Ashwin Baindur]

Congratulations on a successful WikiAcademy to all Wikipedians of Mumbai
Community.

Warm regards,

Ashwin Baindur
--


On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 3:29 PM, Srikanth Lakshmanan wrote:

>
>
> On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 15:21, Arjuna Rao Chavala wrote:
>
>>
>> I too faced difficulties some times. Anonmous editing usually worked,
>> unless the IP itself is blocked. Sometimes while English wiki had access
>> problems, Kannada wiki was accessible for edits.  Do you know whom to
>> request for this?
>>
>
> Refer [1]. Most(or All?) stewards can do is my guess.
> #wikimedia-stewardsconnect
>  on
> IRC should be able to help out and mostly some one or other is available 24
> * 7 (Nice folks! ).
>
> Oh, btw, current steward elections are currently on, if you havent voted
> please do!
>
>
>
>> One solution I think is to setup/use a test wiki, with out constraints for
>> people to practice and then manage it by probably deleting  the content
>> periodically.
>>
>
> Not that everyone can do quickly / always feasible.
>
> [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Account_creator
>
>
> --
> Regards
> Srikanth.L
>
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] WikiAcademy Mumbai 1 notes

[Srikanth Lakshmanan]

On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 15:21, Arjuna Rao Chavala wrote:

>
> I too faced difficulties some times. Anonmous editing usually worked,
> unless the IP itself is blocked. Sometimes while English wiki had access
> problems, Kannada wiki was accessible for edits.  Do you know whom to
> request for this?
>

Refer [1]. Most(or All?) stewards can do is my guess.
#wikimedia-stewardsconnect
on
IRC should be able to help out and mostly some one or other is available 24
* 7 (Nice folks! ).

Oh, btw, current steward elections are currently on, if you havent voted
please do!



> One solution I think is to setup/use a test wiki, with out constraints for
> people to practice and then manage it by probably deleting  the content
> periodically.
>

Not that everyone can do quickly / always feasible.

[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Account_creator


-- 
Regards
Srikanth.L
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] WikiAcademy Mumbai 1 notes

[Arjuna Rao Chavala]

On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 12:01 AM, Pradeep Mohandas <
pradeep.mohan...@gmail.com> wrote:

> hi,
>
> Warning: This is a lnggg email.
>
> We held our first WikiAcademy in Mumbai on October 1, 2011 at the Center
> for Education and Documentation, Colaba. The session was attended by 24
> attendees. Roughly, the sessions were:--cut--
>
Thanks for the update. Glad to see a good turnout


> . This we did, only to realise the limitation existed on creation of not
> more than 6 accounts per IP address.
>
Next time, perhaps making an upfront request to allow more account creations
> from a single IP address before the Academy might be a wise thing to do. Any
> other suggestions?
>
> I too faced difficulties some times. Anonmous editing usually worked,
unless the IP itself is blocked. Sometimes while English wiki had access
problems, Kannada wiki was accessible for edits.  Do you know whom to
request for this?

One solution I think is to setup/use a test wiki, with out constraints for
people to practice and then manage it by probably deleting  the content
periodically.

Cheers
Arjun
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] WikiAcademy Mumbai 1 notes

[Vickram Crishna]

On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 1:42 PM, Gautam John  wrote:

> On 4 October 2011 00:01, Pradeep Mohandas 
> wrote:
>
> > We held our first WikiAcademy in Mumbai on October 1, 2011 at the Center
> for
> > Education and Documentation, Colaba. The session was attended by 24
> > attendees.
>
> Thanks Pradeep. Seems like it was very well attended and useful to them
> too.
>

Just to add to it: in the round of introductions, several of the attendees
were from NGOs, including our hosts, CED; we had people coming in from Pune
to attend, and most encouraging we had one Wikipedian, User:Outofindia, who
flew in from Mangalore! Other attendees were journalists and educators, plus
one architect. It was a well balanced gender mix.

Another WikiAcademy is planned for Oct 15 in north Mumbai: I believe we need
a show of hands (ie experienced Wikipedia volunteers) to come and assist
with the actual conduct of the session, as neither Pradeep nor Pranav will
be able to attend. Rather than do this onlist, I think it best that
volunteers contact Harshita Pande directly.



>
> Might you consider posting this to
> http://wiki.wikimedia.in/Specific_segment_outreach#Events please? With
> photos, if you have, any?
>
>
Many pictures were taken, and I think they are with CED. Maybe we can
encourage CEDians (who will probably be on this list now) to please upload
the pics to commons? Sans tagging, of course.


> Thank you.
>
> Best,
>
> Gautam
> 
> http://blog.prathambooks.org/p/social-media.html
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] WikiAcademy Mumbai 1 notes

[Gautam John]

On 4 October 2011 00:01, Pradeep Mohandas  wrote:

> We held our first WikiAcademy in Mumbai on October 1, 2011 at the Center for
> Education and Documentation, Colaba. The session was attended by 24
> attendees.

Thanks Pradeep. Seems like it was very well attended and useful to them too.

Might you consider posting this to
http://wiki.wikimedia.in/Specific_segment_outreach#Events please? With
photos, if you have, any?

Thank you.

Best,

Gautam

http://blog.prathambooks.org/p/social-media.html

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