Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] social media to use

2011-09-15 Thread Pradeep Mohandas 
hi,

Even other FOSS events in India like the upcoming Python conference, PyCon (
http://in.pycon.org/2011/) is using such venues as Twitter (they have a
twitter account!). FOSS.in was also on Twitter (again, with an account! -
http://twitter.com/fossdotin).

Given these two examples (there might be more), I wonder why we should not
use Twitter as well.

I am doubtful if there are pushing technologies when we do not have
accounts, where all we're doing is watching conversations around the hashtag
#wci11 and help if such help is needed. These are people already on Twitter
whom we're trying to help. Also, to engage them in ways that will have them
take a look at Wikipedia and maybe one day edit!

Also said, I am happy that this discussion did take place. These suggestions
are points for us (in the free community) to consider. Perhaps, a few of us
will try services such as identi.ca, if not anything else. If there are
interested developers here, the mobile version for identi.ca does need a lot
of work on.

warm regards,
Pradeep Mohandas



On 15 September 2011 12:40, Srikanth Lakshmanan  wrote:

>
>
> On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 16:48, Nagarjuna G  wrote:
>
>>
>> There are technical ways to push messages to the popular proprietary
>> social media like facebook and twitter.  Therefore you do not loose anyone,
>> but at the same time we can also push a message about free social media,
>> which is in the larger interest of free knowledge community.
>>
>
> Agree with you that tecnical solutions exist, but then we are not the only
> one to use "proprietary social media". So its not bad using it. Everyone
> uses it, be it Jimmy or events like Wikimania. The primary intent is to
> reach out and in a simple way. Well as i mentioned before, If you want help
> out spreading the word by using free media, you are more than welcome.
>
> Lets not also get paranoid about Free stuff, which case the conference
> needs to have a hotel which only uses Free stuff (right from bubble top
> water,everything is proprietary)  and so on. Lets get real, while we support
> free culture, we need not always be living for it.
>
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] social media to use

2011-09-15 Thread Srikanth Lakshmanan 
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 16:48, Nagarjuna G  wrote:

>
> There are technical ways to push messages to the popular proprietary social
> media like facebook and twitter.  Therefore you do not loose anyone, but at
> the same time we can also push a message about free social media, which is
> in the larger interest of free knowledge community.
>

Agree with you that tecnical solutions exist, but then we are not the only
one to use "proprietary social media". So its not bad using it. Everyone
uses it, be it Jimmy or events like Wikimania. The primary intent is to
reach out and in a simple way. Well as i mentioned before, If you want help
out spreading the word by using free media, you are more than welcome.

Lets not also get paranoid about Free stuff, which case the conference needs
to have a hotel which only uses Free stuff (right from bubble top
water,everything is proprietary)  and so on. Lets get real, while we support
free culture, we need not always be living for it.

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] social media to use

2011-09-14 Thread Nagarjuna G 
On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 10:40 AM, Moksh Juneja wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Respect your views on using open platforms. At the same time, I feel
> strongly we need to use platforms where there users and specially indian
> users.
>
> One small correction, we have not created any Twitter account. We are
> tracking and encouraging users to use #wci11 as the hashtag for
> conversations on WikiConference 2011.
>
>
There are technical ways to push messages to the popular proprietary social
media like facebook and twitter.  Therefore you do not loose anyone, but at
the same time we can also push a message about free social media, which is
in the larger interest of free knowledge community.

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] social media to use

2011-09-14 Thread Moksh Juneja 
Hi, 

Respect your views on using open platforms. At the same time, I feel strongly 
we need to use platforms where there users and specially indian users. 

One small correction, we have not created any Twitter account. We are tracking 
and encouraging users to use #wci11 as the hashtag for conversations on 
WikiConference 2011. 

Moksh from BB

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] social media to use

2011-09-10 Thread Srikanth Lakshmanan 
On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 08:18, Nagarjuna G  wrote:

> I personally think we should encourage and use the free software
> alternatives like identi.ca, diaspora so that the event takes an
> opportunity to promote these media which protects user's freedom.
>
> By linking your account to other facebook or twitter followers to
> identi.ca account you will help tell the world that microblogging can be
> done with free software as well and your event supports/sponsors identi.ca.
>
>
> I do hope the mediawiki conference supports free social media and uses this
> occasion to spread this message among the wikimedians.
>

I think its best not to confuse / group free knowledge and free software
always. The primary intent of engaging in social media is to promote / reach
out about the mission, not free social media. If you wish to promote Wiki
Conference / Wikimedia in any of the free social media you mentioned, please
come forward. Other social media will anyways link to it since it will have
the content. :)

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] social media to use

2011-09-10 Thread Aditya Sengupta 
On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 15:01, Aditya Sengupta  wrote:

>
>
> On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 14:30, Nagarjuna G  wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 2:14 PM, Pradeep Mohandas <
>> pradeep.mohan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> hi,
>>>
>>> Thanks for bringing this to our attention. Can you share where you have
>>> spotted this? We're not planning to have a twitter account, just a hashtag -
>>> #wci11. This is also being used on identi.ca by a few users and we
>>> encourage this.
>>>
>>> We'd like to correct the error.
>>>
>>>
>> this was posted by CherianTinu abrakham:
>>
>> *Penn-Olson : "Its Wikipedia Season in India"*
>> http://www.penn-olson.com/2011/09/07/wikipedia-indi/
>>
>> *Wikipedia is now all set for it’s first WikiConference in India which is
>> scheduled to be held in Mumbai on November 18th, 2011. Delegates from any
>> country can participate, but the conference will be quite India-centric,
>> according to the event page on Wikimedia.*
>> *
>> *
>> *Here’s a quick overview of the schedule for the WikiConference which
>> will act as a platform for Indian Wikimedians and Wikipedians to meet,
>> discuss, and share their opinions regarding Wikipedia India issues,
>> Indian language projects on Wikipedia, and discuss affairs in the
>> Wikicommunity in India and abroad.*
>> *
>> *
>> *Date 18th to 20th November, 2011*
>> *Venue Convocation Hall, University of Mumbai (Fort Campus) & associated
>> rooms*
>> *Accommodation Sea Green Hotel and Chateau Windsor hotel (for those who
>> receive scholarships)*
>> *Hosts Mumbai and Pune Wikipedia communitites, Wikimedia India branch*
>> *Sponsors Wikimedia Foundation, Eregnow.com*
>> *Social Media Facebook and Linkedin event pages, and official Twitter
>> account*
>>
>
> The "Twitter account" mentioned here actually links (in the original
> article) only to a Twitter search: 
> http://twitter.com/#!/search/%23wci11(the
>  search for the hashtag, #wc11), not an actual Twitter account, per se.
>

That said, the Wikimedia page from which they've picked up this info (
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiConference_India_2011) makes no mention
of an "account", it only links to the hashtag. The author of the post at
Penn-Olson is just probably not acquainted enough with Twitter. :-)
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] social media to use

2011-09-10 Thread Aditya Sengupta 
On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 14:30, Nagarjuna G  wrote:

>
>
> On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 2:14 PM, Pradeep Mohandas <
> pradeep.mohan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> hi,
>>
>> Thanks for bringing this to our attention. Can you share where you have
>> spotted this? We're not planning to have a twitter account, just a hashtag -
>> #wci11. This is also being used on identi.ca by a few users and we
>> encourage this.
>>
>> We'd like to correct the error.
>>
>>
> this was posted by CherianTinu abrakham:
>
> *Penn-Olson : "Its Wikipedia Season in India"*
> http://www.penn-olson.com/2011/09/07/wikipedia-indi/
>
> *Wikipedia is now all set for it’s first WikiConference in India which is
> scheduled to be held in Mumbai on November 18th, 2011. Delegates from any
> country can participate, but the conference will be quite India-centric,
> according to the event page on Wikimedia.*
> *
> *
> *Here’s a quick overview of the schedule for the WikiConference which will
> act as a platform for Indian Wikimedians and Wikipedians to meet, discuss,
> and share their opinions regarding Wikipedia India issues, Indian language
> projects on Wikipedia, and discuss affairs in the Wikicommunity in India
> and abroad.*
> *
> *
> *Date 18th to 20th November, 2011*
> *Venue Convocation Hall, University of Mumbai (Fort Campus) & associated
> rooms*
> *Accommodation Sea Green Hotel and Chateau Windsor hotel (for those who
> receive scholarships)*
> *Hosts Mumbai and Pune Wikipedia communitites, Wikimedia India branch*
> *Sponsors Wikimedia Foundation, Eregnow.com*
> *Social Media Facebook and Linkedin event pages, and official Twitter
> account*
>

The "Twitter account" mentioned here actually links (in the original
article) only to a Twitter search:
http://twitter.com/#!/search/%23wci11(the search for the hashtag,
#wc11), not an actual Twitter account, per se.
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] social media to use

2011-09-10 Thread Nagarjuna G 
On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 2:14 PM, Pradeep Mohandas <
pradeep.mohan...@gmail.com> wrote:

> hi,
>
> Thanks for bringing this to our attention. Can you share where you have
> spotted this? We're not planning to have a twitter account, just a hashtag -
> #wci11. This is also being used on identi.ca by a few users and we
> encourage this.
>
> We'd like to correct the error.
>
>
this was posted by CherianTinu abrakham:

*Penn-Olson : "Its Wikipedia Season in India"*
http://www.penn-olson.com/2011/09/07/wikipedia-indi/

*Wikipedia is now all set for it’s first WikiConference in India which is
scheduled to be held in Mumbai on November 18th, 2011. Delegates from any
country can participate, but the conference will be quite India-centric,
according to the event page on Wikimedia.*
*
*
*Here’s a quick overview of the schedule for the WikiConference which will
act as a platform for Indian Wikimedians and Wikipedians to meet, discuss,
and share their opinions regarding Wikipedia India issues, Indian language
projects on Wikipedia, and discuss affairs in the Wikicommunity in
India andabroad.
*
*
*
*Date 18th to 20th November, 2011*
*Venue Convocation Hall, University of Mumbai (Fort Campus) & associated
rooms*
*Accommodation Sea Green Hotel and Chateau Windsor hotel (for those who
receive scholarships)*
*Hosts Mumbai and Pune Wikipedia communitites, Wikimedia India branch*
*Sponsors Wikimedia Foundation, Eregnow.com*
*Social Media Facebook and Linkedin event pages, and official Twitter
account*
*Email confere...@wikimedia.in*
*
*
*
*
*We recently spoke with the India program consultant to WikiMedia, Mr.
Hisham Mundol. We discussed the WikiConference, a new Wiki course in the
College of Engineering at Pune (CoEP), and how to be a Wikipedia
contributor.*
*
*
*What is the conference all about? Why is it being held and how do you think
it’s beneficial for Wikipedia?*
*
*
*This conference is going to be the first national conference held by the
Wikimedia community in India. It’ll be fantastic for the existing community
to meet up and share stories and knowledge and have a good time! We also
hope that it will attract newcomers to Wikipedia.*
*
*
*Also, Wikipedia’s activities in India have increased as it has recently
collaborated with College of Engineering, Pune launching a course in which
over 800 students will contribute to the Wikipedia’s page as a part of their
first semester.*
*
*
*Why did Wikipedia choose CoEP over top colleges like the Indian Institute
of Technology (IITs) and National Institute of Technology (NITs)?*
*
*
*The College of Engineering at Pune has a wonderful reputation, student
body, and faculty. We decided to do the pilot in Pune – and we’re honored
the CoEP has agreed to partner with us. Right now, the college has the
highest number of students enrolled in our program, anywhere in the world.*
*
*
*What benefits will this course add to Wikipedia as an organization?*
*
*
*The Wikipedia movement will gain tremendously because of the quality of
content that students are adding, and will be adding.*
*
*
*What is the future plan? Is the organisation planning to launch this course
in other colleges as well?*
*
*
*Our immediate plans are to continue with this pilot at Pune in the short
term. We are looking at a roll-out to other colleges and cities. We’d love
to hear from whoever is interested. For those who want to get involved
immediately, an option is to start a Wikipedia Students’ Club. There are
further details available on our outreach page.*
*
*
*How can one contribute towards the Wiki community?*
*
*
*Anyone and everyone can contribute. You can check the Welcome to Wikipedia
section and the Introduction Page.*
*
*
*The basic process would be to read those two links, create a user account,
go to the edit button on the top right of any article and start editing! You
can also contribute images and other media files to Wikimedia Commons which
is amongst the world’s largest storehouse of free-to-use media files.*
*
*
*Lastly, How many Wikipedia contributors hail from India at the moment?*
*
*
*Right now, there are about 1,500 active editors in India – but that number
keeps growing. We’d like it to become many, many times larger, and we invite
anyone and everyone to join in!*


Regards
Tinu Cherian
http://wiki.wikimedia.in/In_the_news#Sep_2011


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> warm regards,
> Pradeep Mohandas
>
> On 10 September 2011 08:18, Nagarjuna G  wrote:
>
>>
>> In the recent announcement about the wikimedia conference I saw this:
>> *
>> Social Media Facebook and Linkedin event pages, and official Twitter
>> account
>>
>> *Mediawiki as a media technology does not belong there. It is not the
>> outcome and end that this group should be interested in, but also means of
>> getting there.
>>
>> I personally think we should encourage and use the free so

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] social media to use

2011-09-10 Thread Anivar Aravind 
I think it is in the advertisement   of communication position with
foundation posted by Hisham sometimes back

On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 2:14 PM, Pradeep Mohandas
 wrote:
> hi,
> Thanks for bringing this to our attention. Can you share where you have
> spotted this? We're not planning to have a twitter account, just a hashtag -
> #wci11. This is also being used on identi.ca by a few users and we encourage
> this.
> We'd like to correct the error.
> warm regards,
> Pradeep Mohandas
>
> On 10 September 2011 08:18, Nagarjuna G  wrote:
>>
>> In the recent announcement about the wikimedia conference I saw this:
>>
>> Social Media Facebook and Linkedin event pages, and official Twitter
>> account
>>
>> Mediawiki as a media technology does not belong there. It is not the
>> outcome and end that this group should be interested in, but also means of
>> getting there.
>>
>> I personally think we should encourage and use the free software
>> alternatives like identi.ca, diaspora so that the event takes an opportunity
>> to promote these media which protects user's freedom.
>>
>> By linking your account to other facebook or twitter followers to
>> identi.ca account you will help tell the world that microblogging can be
>> done with free software as well and your event supports/sponsors identi.ca.
>>
>> I do hope the mediawiki conference supports free social media and uses
>> this occasion to spread this message among the wikimedians.
>>
>> --
>> GN
>>
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] social media to use

2011-09-10 Thread Pradeep Mohandas 
hi,

Thanks for bringing this to our attention. Can you share where you have
spotted this? We're not planning to have a twitter account, just a hashtag -
#wci11. This is also being used on identi.ca by a few users and we encourage
this.

We'd like to correct the error.

warm regards,
Pradeep Mohandas

On 10 September 2011 08:18, Nagarjuna G  wrote:

>
> In the recent announcement about the wikimedia conference I saw this:
> *
> Social Media Facebook and Linkedin event pages, and official Twitter
> account
>
> *Mediawiki as a media technology does not belong there. It is not the
> outcome and end that this group should be interested in, but also means of
> getting there.
>
> I personally think we should encourage and use the free software
> alternatives like identi.ca, diaspora so that the event takes an
> opportunity to promote these media which protects user's freedom.
>
> By linking your account to other facebook or twitter followers to
> identi.ca account you will help tell the world that microblogging can be
> done with free software as well and your event supports/sponsors identi.ca.
>
>
> I do hope the mediawiki conference supports free social media and uses this
> occasion to spread this message among the wikimedians.
>
> --
> GN
>
>
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