Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] URGENT: Appointment of an Interim Audit Committee
hi, excuse that i write this email, while not beeing directly concerned, but maybe there are some similarities to other countries, like in this case switzerland. the bylaws state that the auditors have access to the financial books at any time. if the bylaws are violated, the board, the members personal or via general assembly and the tax authority can take action. examples: the board itself can immediately change the roles, i.e. put in place a new treasurer. the general assembly can change the board, the tax authority can revoke the tax exempt status, a member can sue the treasurer, wmch can sue the treasurer. while normally members and board members are not personally liable, this changes in case of a violation of the bylaws. there might be criminal liability, or material liability vs the local law. a little more to the role of the auditors: * "mandate" is defined simple in the bylaws: access at any time to the financial statements. members do not have that. * "access" is defined quite simple: there is an account and account statement, and for every money movement, there must be a receipt or document in support. and if the auditor shows up, the responsible person (treasurer in our case) must be able to show it. at the general assembly they propose to accept or reject the financial statements. auditors only suggest how they want to have the financial statements - but never measures for wmch in general (this is the general assemblies, and boards business). side note: wmch might not be directly comparable though, as wmch is organized like a football club, i.e. the general assembly of the members is the highest body giving the direction, giving the bylaws, and electing the board. there is a committee (i.e. board), which runs the business, the treasurer beeing one of the board. and there is the auditors, which was 2 members, not board, in former times (which could choose to ask a company for help), nowadays a company only. best regards, rupert. On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 10:23 AM, Limoke Oscar wrote: > Having an Audit Committee is a good idea, however my question is, What are > its mandates? I mean like yes I want us to have one, but what happens when > they make recommendations incases of malpractice in the board? I say this > because technically all the members have been some sort of auditors and have > been checking and asking for answers from the board especially as regards to > vary many decisions, financials included. So please let us lay out the > mandate of the committee and there is nothing worse like making > recommendations that never get implemented like most commissions and > committees in Kenya.my personal 2 cents > > That Said, I know Abbas, Grace (who stepped down from the Chapter) and > Kosgei are the other volunteers, so I guess we have an audit Committee ready > > > On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 10:52 AM, Branton Obwari > wrote: >> >> Hi , >> matters of integrity ,n accountability are bound to rise ,in this kind >> of organisation i personally thought the issue we just heard on the >> mailing list would have been avoided if there was an audit unit as >> suggested earlier . >> i am available to volunteer on that capacity together with others. >> My regrds >> >> Bruce. >> >> On 7/25/12, David Mugo wrote: >> > Guys, >> > >> > I hope you are good, I am writing this in great concern of what is >> > happening with the chapter and finances. We are a very young chapter and >> > we >> > need not be where we are at this point. When we elected the board, we >> > agreed to have an audit committee that will be there to keep check on >> > the >> > board's decisions in all matters including finances. >> > >> > The fact that WMKE is ran by the board means we need an external organ >> > to >> > ensure accountability and responsibility. >> > >> > I would hereby propose that we suggest/nominate 4 members who can handle >> > this until we have the next meeting to either confirm the members or >> > conduct a process to appoint these members. I would like to leave this >> > open >> > but also insist that it is really urgent as we decide on the current >> > situation, its solution and action to be taken by the chapter regarding >> > the >> > matter. Please suggest names or volunteer and we can all come up with a >> > final process to create membership of this committee. >> > >> > -- >> > - >> > David Mugo, >> > Adviser to Kenya's VP on Digital Media & Technology, >> > CEO & Board Chairman, Wikimedia Kenya >> > http://mugo.me >> > Twitter: @raidarmax >> > >> >> ___ >> WikimediaKE mailing list >> WikimediaKE@lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediake > > > > > -- > Regards, > > Limoke Oscar, > Dream.Believe.Becomea world of endless oportunities > > > ___ > WikimediaKE mailing list > WikimediaKE@li
Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] URGENT: Appointment of an Interim Audit Committee
Guys, I think we discussed the mandate during the board elections, it is mainly to ensure the integrity of the board is not compromised. Isaac, thanks for volunteering, lets wait for more volunteers and the people can select from the willing volunteers. Being an email list, let us allow enough time for everyone to have seen this thread. David. On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 11:54 AM, Kosgei Isaac wrote: > Hi, > Great idea David, > I will be available for this but first the mandate and timeline has to be > set. > Thanks > > Isaac K. Kosgei. > Bachelor of Agribusiness Management > Egerton University, > Njoro Kenya. > (+254727553981) > www.linkedin.com/in/kipsizoo > Skype/Twitter: Kipsizoo > "Those Cultures that allow their people to DREAM, INNOVATE, and PRODUCE > will be the winners in the race for economic independence" > Rocco Leonard Martino-Founder and President CyberFone Technologies > > > > > On 25 July 2012 11:23, Limoke Oscar wrote: > >> Having an Audit Committee is a good idea, however my question is, What >> are its mandates? I mean like yes I want us to have one, but what happens >> when they make recommendations incases of malpractice in the board? I say >> this because technically all the members have been some sort of auditors >> and have been checking and asking for answers from the board especially as >> regards to vary many decisions, financials included. So please let us lay >> out the mandate of the committee and there is nothing worse like >> making recommendations that never get implemented like >> most commissions and committees in Kenya.my personal 2 cents >> >> That Said, I know Abbas, Grace (who stepped down from the Chapter) and >> Kosgei are the other volunteers, so I guess we have an audit Committee ready >> >> >> On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 10:52 AM, Branton Obwari >> wrote: >> >>> Hi , >>> matters of integrity ,n accountability are bound to rise ,in this kind >>> of organisation i personally thought the issue we just heard on the >>> mailing list would have been avoided if there was an audit unit as >>> suggested earlier . >>> i am available to volunteer on that capacity together with others. >>> My regrds >>> >>> Bruce. >>> >>> On 7/25/12, David Mugo wrote: >>> > Guys, >>> > >>> > I hope you are good, I am writing this in great concern of what is >>> > happening with the chapter and finances. We are a very young chapter >>> and we >>> > need not be where we are at this point. When we elected the board, we >>> > agreed to have an audit committee that will be there to keep check on >>> the >>> > board's decisions in all matters including finances. >>> > >>> > The fact that WMKE is ran by the board means we need an external organ >>> to >>> > ensure accountability and responsibility. >>> > >>> > I would hereby propose that we suggest/nominate 4 members who can >>> handle >>> > this until we have the next meeting to either confirm the members or >>> > conduct a process to appoint these members. I would like to leave this >>> open >>> > but also insist that it is really urgent as we decide on the current >>> > situation, its solution and action to be taken by the chapter >>> regarding the >>> > matter. Please suggest names or volunteer and we can all come up with a >>> > final process to create membership of this committee. >>> > >>> > -- >>> > - >>> > David Mugo, >>> > Adviser to Kenya's VP on Digital Media & Technology, >>> > CEO & Board Chairman, Wikimedia Kenya >>> > http://mugo.me >>> > Twitter: @raidarmax >>> > >>> >>> ___ >>> WikimediaKE mailing list >>> WikimediaKE@lists.wikimedia.org >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediake >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Regards, >> >> Limoke Oscar, >> Dream.Believe.Becomea world of endless oportunities >> >> >> ___ >> WikimediaKE mailing list >> WikimediaKE@lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediake >> >> > > ___ > WikimediaKE mailing list > WikimediaKE@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediake > > -- - David Mugo, Adviser to Kenya's VP on Digital Media & Technology, CEO & Board Chairman, Wikimedia Kenya http://mugo.me Twitter: @raidarmax ___ WikimediaKE mailing list WikimediaKE@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediake
Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] URGENT: Appointment of an Interim Audit Committee
Hi, Great idea David, I will be available for this but first the mandate and timeline has to be set. Thanks Isaac K. Kosgei. Bachelor of Agribusiness Management Egerton University, Njoro Kenya. (+254727553981) www.linkedin.com/in/kipsizoo Skype/Twitter: Kipsizoo "Those Cultures that allow their people to DREAM, INNOVATE, and PRODUCE will be the winners in the race for economic independence" Rocco Leonard Martino-Founder and President CyberFone Technologies On 25 July 2012 11:23, Limoke Oscar wrote: > Having an Audit Committee is a good idea, however my question is, What are > its mandates? I mean like yes I want us to have one, but what happens when > they make recommendations incases of malpractice in the board? I say this > because technically all the members have been some sort of auditors and > have been checking and asking for answers from the board especially as > regards to vary many decisions, financials included. So please let us lay > out the mandate of the committee and there is nothing worse like > making recommendations that never get implemented like > most commissions and committees in Kenya.my personal 2 cents > > That Said, I know Abbas, Grace (who stepped down from the Chapter) and > Kosgei are the other volunteers, so I guess we have an audit Committee ready > > > On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 10:52 AM, Branton Obwari wrote: > >> Hi , >> matters of integrity ,n accountability are bound to rise ,in this kind >> of organisation i personally thought the issue we just heard on the >> mailing list would have been avoided if there was an audit unit as >> suggested earlier . >> i am available to volunteer on that capacity together with others. >> My regrds >> >> Bruce. >> >> On 7/25/12, David Mugo wrote: >> > Guys, >> > >> > I hope you are good, I am writing this in great concern of what is >> > happening with the chapter and finances. We are a very young chapter >> and we >> > need not be where we are at this point. When we elected the board, we >> > agreed to have an audit committee that will be there to keep check on >> the >> > board's decisions in all matters including finances. >> > >> > The fact that WMKE is ran by the board means we need an external organ >> to >> > ensure accountability and responsibility. >> > >> > I would hereby propose that we suggest/nominate 4 members who can handle >> > this until we have the next meeting to either confirm the members or >> > conduct a process to appoint these members. I would like to leave this >> open >> > but also insist that it is really urgent as we decide on the current >> > situation, its solution and action to be taken by the chapter regarding >> the >> > matter. Please suggest names or volunteer and we can all come up with a >> > final process to create membership of this committee. >> > >> > -- >> > - >> > David Mugo, >> > Adviser to Kenya's VP on Digital Media & Technology, >> > CEO & Board Chairman, Wikimedia Kenya >> > http://mugo.me >> > Twitter: @raidarmax >> > >> >> ___ >> WikimediaKE mailing list >> WikimediaKE@lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediake >> > > > > -- > Regards, > > Limoke Oscar, > Dream.Believe.Becomea world of endless oportunities > > > ___ > WikimediaKE mailing list > WikimediaKE@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediake > > ___ WikimediaKE mailing list WikimediaKE@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediake
Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] URGENT: Appointment of an Interim Audit Committee
Hi All, I'd suggest that we consider how we answer or respond to fellow chapter members. It's really scary how some of us get jerked off at anytime we try to respond (no one in particular) or give our thoughts and suggestion. And also I don't think it's wise to respond with a lot of personal feelings especially in such maters like the current financial hiccup. Let's not kill the spirit, we all need each other. (Also no one in particular). Warmly, //cliff On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 11:34 AM, Abbas Mahmood wrote: > +1 to what Oscar said. > > If the Board, which has the ultimate authority, has failed to get the > Treasurer to submit all the required financial documents, what makes you > think that the Audit Committee will? I am tired of having ineffective > discussions with people who don't want to cooperate. > > Abbas. > > PS -- For the record, I never volunteered to be part of the Audit > Committee. > > > -- > From: oslim...@gmail.com > Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 11:23:05 +0300 > To: wikimediake@lists.wikimedia.org > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] URGENT: Appointment of an Interim Audit > Committee > > > Having an Audit Committee is a good idea, however my question is, What are > its mandates? I mean like yes I want us to have one, but what happens when > they make recommendations incases of malpractice in the board? I say this > because technically all the members have been some sort of auditors and > have been checking and asking for answers from the board especially as > regards to vary many decisions, financials included. So please let us lay > out the mandate of the committee and there is nothing worse like > making recommendations that never get implemented like > most commissions and committees in Kenya.my personal 2 cents > > That Said, I know Abbas, Grace (who stepped down from the Chapter) and > Kosgei are the other volunteers, so I guess we have an audit Committee ready > > On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 10:52 AM, Branton Obwari wrote: > > Hi , > matters of integrity ,n accountability are bound to rise ,in this kind > of organisation i personally thought the issue we just heard on the > mailing list would have been avoided if there was an audit unit as > suggested earlier . > i am available to volunteer on that capacity together with others. > My regrds > > Bruce. > > On 7/25/12, David Mugo wrote: > > Guys, > > > > I hope you are good, I am writing this in great concern of what is > > happening with the chapter and finances. We are a very young chapter and > we > > need not be where we are at this point. When we elected the board, we > > agreed to have an audit committee that will be there to keep check on the > > board's decisions in all matters including finances. > > > > The fact that WMKE is ran by the board means we need an external organ to > > ensure accountability and responsibility. > > > > I would hereby propose that we suggest/nominate 4 members who can handle > > this until we have the next meeting to either confirm the members or > > conduct a process to appoint these members. I would like to leave this > open > > but also insist that it is really urgent as we decide on the current > > situation, its solution and action to be taken by the chapter regarding > the > > matter. Please suggest names or volunteer and we can all come up with a > > final process to create membership of this committee. > > > > -- > > - > > David Mugo, > > Adviser to Kenya's VP on Digital Media & Technology, > > CEO & Board Chairman, Wikimedia Kenya > > http://mugo.me > > Twitter: @raidarmax > > > > ___ > WikimediaKE mailing list > WikimediaKE@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediake > > > > > -- > Regards, > > Limoke Oscar, > Dream.Believe.Becomea world of endless oportunities > > > ___ WikimediaKE mailing list > WikimediaKE@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediake > > ___ > WikimediaKE mailing list > WikimediaKE@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediake > > ___ WikimediaKE mailing list WikimediaKE@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediake
Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] URGENT: Appointment of an Interim Audit Committee
Abbas, As you put it, the board cannot vet itself. That is why we need another official organ to vet and suggest disciplinary action on members of the board. At this point, we know the situation has elevated to a serious point and we need to have a formal process of doing things. That is simply what I am asking. Let no one turn this into a personal conversation, please let us propose/volunteer members. Preferably volunteered. David. On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 11:34 AM, Abbas Mahmood wrote: > +1 to what Oscar said. > > If the Board, which has the ultimate authority, has failed to get the > Treasurer to submit all the required financial documents, what makes you > think that the Audit Committee will? I am tired of having ineffective > discussions with people who don't want to cooperate. > > Abbas. > > PS -- For the record, I never volunteered to be part of the Audit > Committee. > > > -- > From: oslim...@gmail.com > Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 11:23:05 +0300 > To: wikimediake@lists.wikimedia.org > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] URGENT: Appointment of an Interim Audit > Committee > > > Having an Audit Committee is a good idea, however my question is, What are > its mandates? I mean like yes I want us to have one, but what happens when > they make recommendations incases of malpractice in the board? I say this > because technically all the members have been some sort of auditors and > have been checking and asking for answers from the board especially as > regards to vary many decisions, financials included. So please let us lay > out the mandate of the committee and there is nothing worse like > making recommendations that never get implemented like > most commissions and committees in Kenya.my personal 2 cents > > That Said, I know Abbas, Grace (who stepped down from the Chapter) and > Kosgei are the other volunteers, so I guess we have an audit Committee ready > > On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 10:52 AM, Branton Obwari wrote: > > Hi , > matters of integrity ,n accountability are bound to rise ,in this kind > of organisation i personally thought the issue we just heard on the > mailing list would have been avoided if there was an audit unit as > suggested earlier . > i am available to volunteer on that capacity together with others. > My regrds > > Bruce. > > On 7/25/12, David Mugo wrote: > > Guys, > > > > I hope you are good, I am writing this in great concern of what is > > happening with the chapter and finances. We are a very young chapter and > we > > need not be where we are at this point. When we elected the board, we > > agreed to have an audit committee that will be there to keep check on the > > board's decisions in all matters including finances. > > > > The fact that WMKE is ran by the board means we need an external organ to > > ensure accountability and responsibility. > > > > I would hereby propose that we suggest/nominate 4 members who can handle > > this until we have the next meeting to either confirm the members or > > conduct a process to appoint these members. I would like to leave this > open > > but also insist that it is really urgent as we decide on the current > > situation, its solution and action to be taken by the chapter regarding > the > > matter. Please suggest names or volunteer and we can all come up with a > > final process to create membership of this committee. > > > > -- > > - > > David Mugo, > > Adviser to Kenya's VP on Digital Media & Technology, > > CEO & Board Chairman, Wikimedia Kenya > > http://mugo.me > > Twitter: @raidarmax > > > > ___ > WikimediaKE mailing list > WikimediaKE@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediake > > > > > -- > Regards, > > Limoke Oscar, > Dream.Believe.Becomea world of endless oportunities > > > ___ WikimediaKE mailing list > WikimediaKE@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediake > > ___ > WikimediaKE mailing list > WikimediaKE@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediake > > -- - David Mugo, Adviser to Kenya's VP on Digital Media & Technology, CEO & Board Chairman, Wikimedia Kenya http://mugo.me Twitter: @raidarmax ___ WikimediaKE mailing list WikimediaKE@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediake
Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] URGENT: Appointment of an Interim Audit Committee
+1 to what Oscar said. If the Board, which has the ultimate authority, has failed to get the Treasurer to submit all the required financial documents, what makes you think that the Audit Committee will? I am tired of having ineffective discussions with people who don't want to cooperate. Abbas. PS -- For the record, I never volunteered to be part of the Audit Committee. From: oslim...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 11:23:05 +0300 To: wikimediake@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] URGENT: Appointment of an Interim Audit Committee Having an Audit Committee is a good idea, however my question is, What are its mandates? I mean like yes I want us to have one, but what happens when they make recommendations incases of malpractice in the board? I say this because technically all the members have been some sort of auditors and have been checking and asking for answers from the board especially as regards to vary many decisions, financials included. So please let us lay out the mandate of the committee and there is nothing worse like making recommendations that never get implemented like most commissions and committees in Kenya.my personal 2 cents That Said, I know Abbas, Grace (who stepped down from the Chapter) and Kosgei are the other volunteers, so I guess we have an audit Committee ready On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 10:52 AM, Branton Obwari wrote: Hi , matters of integrity ,n accountability are bound to rise ,in this kind of organisation i personally thought the issue we just heard on the mailing list would have been avoided if there was an audit unit as suggested earlier . i am available to volunteer on that capacity together with others. My regrds Bruce. On 7/25/12, David Mugo wrote: > Guys, > > I hope you are good, I am writing this in great concern of what is > happening with the chapter and finances. We are a very young chapter and we > need not be where we are at this point. When we elected the board, we > agreed to have an audit committee that will be there to keep check on the > board's decisions in all matters including finances. > > The fact that WMKE is ran by the board means we need an external organ to > ensure accountability and responsibility. > > I would hereby propose that we suggest/nominate 4 members who can handle > this until we have the next meeting to either confirm the members or > conduct a process to appoint these members. I would like to leave this open > but also insist that it is really urgent as we decide on the current > situation, its solution and action to be taken by the chapter regarding the > matter. Please suggest names or volunteer and we can all come up with a > final process to create membership of this committee. > > -- > - > David Mugo, > Adviser to Kenya's VP on Digital Media & Technology, > CEO & Board Chairman, Wikimedia Kenya > http://mugo.me > Twitter: @raidarmax > ___ WikimediaKE mailing list WikimediaKE@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediake -- Regards, Limoke Oscar,Dream.Believe.Becomea world of endless oportunities ___ WikimediaKE mailing list WikimediaKE@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediake ___ WikimediaKE mailing list WikimediaKE@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediake
Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] URGENT: Appointment of an Interim Audit Committee
Oscar, I think we defined the mandate of this committee when we were doing the elections of the board. It is important to have procedures to solving issues and one of the steps to handling this is getting the committee together. You however cannot form a committee based on one issue and I strongly suggest you do not even propose your name because you are a member of the board. This committee is supposed to make recommendations for action against members of the board found with inappropriate standings. Please note that this committee is not just being formed for this one situation but it will be generally responsible for keeping the board on check. David. On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 11:23 AM, Limoke Oscar wrote: > Having an Audit Committee is a good idea, however my question is, What are > its mandates? I mean like yes I want us to have one, but what happens when > they make recommendations incases of malpractice in the board? I say this > because technically all the members have been some sort of auditors and > have been checking and asking for answers from the board especially as > regards to vary many decisions, financials included. So please let us lay > out the mandate of the committee and there is nothing worse like > making recommendations that never get implemented like > most commissions and committees in Kenya.my personal 2 cents > > That Said, I know Abbas, Grace (who stepped down from the Chapter) and > Kosgei are the other volunteers, so I guess we have an audit Committee ready > > > On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 10:52 AM, Branton Obwari wrote: > >> Hi , >> matters of integrity ,n accountability are bound to rise ,in this kind >> of organisation i personally thought the issue we just heard on the >> mailing list would have been avoided if there was an audit unit as >> suggested earlier . >> i am available to volunteer on that capacity together with others. >> My regrds >> >> Bruce. >> >> On 7/25/12, David Mugo wrote: >> > Guys, >> > >> > I hope you are good, I am writing this in great concern of what is >> > happening with the chapter and finances. We are a very young chapter >> and we >> > need not be where we are at this point. When we elected the board, we >> > agreed to have an audit committee that will be there to keep check on >> the >> > board's decisions in all matters including finances. >> > >> > The fact that WMKE is ran by the board means we need an external organ >> to >> > ensure accountability and responsibility. >> > >> > I would hereby propose that we suggest/nominate 4 members who can handle >> > this until we have the next meeting to either confirm the members or >> > conduct a process to appoint these members. I would like to leave this >> open >> > but also insist that it is really urgent as we decide on the current >> > situation, its solution and action to be taken by the chapter regarding >> the >> > matter. Please suggest names or volunteer and we can all come up with a >> > final process to create membership of this committee. >> > >> > -- >> > - >> > David Mugo, >> > Adviser to Kenya's VP on Digital Media & Technology, >> > CEO & Board Chairman, Wikimedia Kenya >> > http://mugo.me >> > Twitter: @raidarmax >> > >> >> ___ >> WikimediaKE mailing list >> WikimediaKE@lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediake >> > > > > -- > Regards, > > Limoke Oscar, > Dream.Believe.Becomea world of endless oportunities > > > ___ > WikimediaKE mailing list > WikimediaKE@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediake > > -- - David Mugo, Adviser to Kenya's VP on Digital Media & Technology, CEO & Board Chairman, Wikimedia Kenya http://mugo.me Twitter: @raidarmax ___ WikimediaKE mailing list WikimediaKE@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediake
Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] URGENT: Appointment of an Interim Audit Committee
Having an Audit Committee is a good idea, however my question is, What are its mandates? I mean like yes I want us to have one, but what happens when they make recommendations incases of malpractice in the board? I say this because technically all the members have been some sort of auditors and have been checking and asking for answers from the board especially as regards to vary many decisions, financials included. So please let us lay out the mandate of the committee and there is nothing worse like making recommendations that never get implemented like most commissions and committees in Kenya.my personal 2 cents That Said, I know Abbas, Grace (who stepped down from the Chapter) and Kosgei are the other volunteers, so I guess we have an audit Committee ready On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 10:52 AM, Branton Obwari wrote: > Hi , > matters of integrity ,n accountability are bound to rise ,in this kind > of organisation i personally thought the issue we just heard on the > mailing list would have been avoided if there was an audit unit as > suggested earlier . > i am available to volunteer on that capacity together with others. > My regrds > > Bruce. > > On 7/25/12, David Mugo wrote: > > Guys, > > > > I hope you are good, I am writing this in great concern of what is > > happening with the chapter and finances. We are a very young chapter and > we > > need not be where we are at this point. When we elected the board, we > > agreed to have an audit committee that will be there to keep check on the > > board's decisions in all matters including finances. > > > > The fact that WMKE is ran by the board means we need an external organ to > > ensure accountability and responsibility. > > > > I would hereby propose that we suggest/nominate 4 members who can handle > > this until we have the next meeting to either confirm the members or > > conduct a process to appoint these members. I would like to leave this > open > > but also insist that it is really urgent as we decide on the current > > situation, its solution and action to be taken by the chapter regarding > the > > matter. Please suggest names or volunteer and we can all come up with a > > final process to create membership of this committee. > > > > -- > > - > > David Mugo, > > Adviser to Kenya's VP on Digital Media & Technology, > > CEO & Board Chairman, Wikimedia Kenya > > http://mugo.me > > Twitter: @raidarmax > > > > ___ > WikimediaKE mailing list > WikimediaKE@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediake > -- Regards, Limoke Oscar, Dream.Believe.Becomea world of endless oportunities ___ WikimediaKE mailing list WikimediaKE@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediake
Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] URGENT: Appointment of an Interim Audit Committee
Hi , matters of integrity ,n accountability are bound to rise ,in this kind of organisation i personally thought the issue we just heard on the mailing list would have been avoided if there was an audit unit as suggested earlier . i am available to volunteer on that capacity together with others. My regrds Bruce. On 7/25/12, David Mugo wrote: > Guys, > > I hope you are good, I am writing this in great concern of what is > happening with the chapter and finances. We are a very young chapter and we > need not be where we are at this point. When we elected the board, we > agreed to have an audit committee that will be there to keep check on the > board's decisions in all matters including finances. > > The fact that WMKE is ran by the board means we need an external organ to > ensure accountability and responsibility. > > I would hereby propose that we suggest/nominate 4 members who can handle > this until we have the next meeting to either confirm the members or > conduct a process to appoint these members. I would like to leave this open > but also insist that it is really urgent as we decide on the current > situation, its solution and action to be taken by the chapter regarding the > matter. Please suggest names or volunteer and we can all come up with a > final process to create membership of this committee. > > -- > - > David Mugo, > Adviser to Kenya's VP on Digital Media & Technology, > CEO & Board Chairman, Wikimedia Kenya > http://mugo.me > Twitter: @raidarmax > ___ WikimediaKE mailing list WikimediaKE@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediake
