Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Get Online Week

2015-10-13 Thread WereSpielChequers
Dear Mike, I think the target group is significant here. My suspicion is that editing Wikipedia is not an entry level computer task. I have twice trained non computer users at editathons I was helping at, on one occasion I spent an inordinate amount of time teaching someone how to use a mouse. My

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Get Online Week

2015-10-13 Thread Nick Poole
Hi all, I am following this thread with interest. A lot of libraries are doing interesting things around Get Online week, and I think it’s worth thinking less in terms of people editing Wikipedia and more in terms of using it. Obviously, edits is a metric, but I note in Martha Lane Fox’s

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Get Online Week

2015-10-13 Thread Lucy Crompton-Reid
Definitely! It's a shame we missed it this year but thanks for flagging it up Mike, would be good to be involved in future. Cheers, Lucy On 12 October 2015 at 18:39, Michael Peel wrote: > Hi all, > > I've just discovered that this week is 'Get Online Week', see: >

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Get Online Week

2015-10-13 Thread Thomas Morton
Getting people to understand how to interact with Wikipedia *properly* as a reader has always struck me as the most important thing. Because people sometimes don't apply the sort of critical thinking needed. An encyclopaedia is nothing if it's content is not *useful*. For this reason (and I feel

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Get Online Week

2015-10-13 Thread Deryck Chan
I consider a 5% editor retention rate from editathons as a consistent huge success. Deryck On 13 October 2015 at 15:12, leu...@fabiant.eu wrote: > Hi all, > > I think there is what we do and what we imagine we do. Although the > propaganda is that editathons are there to

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Get Online Week

2015-10-13 Thread leu...@fabiant.eu
Hi all, I think there is what we do and what we imagine we do. Although the propaganda is that editathons are there to develop new editors, in fact they are very poor at this with somewhere around a 5% success level. This is something Wikimedia UK has known for several years, yet we have

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Get Online Week

2015-10-13 Thread
On 13 October 2015 at 15:12, leu...@fabiant.eu wrote: ... > I think there is what we do and what we imagine we do. Although the > propaganda is that editathons are there to develop new editors, in fact they > are very poor at this with somewhere around a 5% success level.

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Get Online Week

2015-10-13 Thread Gordon Joly
On 13/10/15 13:48, WereSpielChequers wrote: > > I think the target group is significant here. My suspicion is that > editing Wikipedia is not an entry level computer task. Indeed. I have sat in on sessions in community centres, teaching and helping to teach. Image manipulation (using The Gimp)

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Get Online Week

2015-10-13 Thread Michael Peel
Hi all, It's worth remembering that editathons weren't originally intended to recruit new editors - they were aimed at bringing together experienced editors with knowledgable people (e.g. museum creators) to improve Wikipedia articles using the knowledge of both groups. The change to focus on

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Get Online Week

2015-10-13 Thread leu...@fabiant.eu
This sounds like a great idea, let's do it. I am not sure that a WIkiproject work for this. Is there a better way to approach things? all the best Fabian aka Leutha > Rather than running our own events for new internet users, how about providing >