Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimedia UK are looking for a Fundraising Assistant

2014-07-28 Thread Michael Peel
Hey Katherine,

Thanks for sharing this background. I'm really glad to hear your good news - a 
solid fundraising strategy for WMUK is long overdue, and it's great to hear 
that you'll be working on this and will have the time to focus on it. :-)

On the volunteers point: I've always advocated this along the lines of staff 
should only do things that volunteers either cannot do or do not want to do, 
which is somewhat different from whether or not they should be able to help 
with administrative work or not, and also whether it's fun or not. I'm glad to 
hear that you'll be giving consideration to this is your public survey, which I 
look forward to seeing. I would encourage you to think more about what 
fundraising work could be packaged and offered to volunteers to do, even if 
it's not fun work - I'm sure there are volunteers out there (such as retired or 
part-time workers) who would be capable and interested in helping with some of 
the 'boring' stuff too. I remember Jon giving an example from the last charity 
he worked at along those very lines. Yes, they can't offer guaranteed outcomes 
the way that staff mostly can, but they can still sign legal agreements to not 
disclose information where necessary, it's much more scaleable to involve 
volunteers wherever possible than it is to have staff doing anything, and 
supervising people to make sure they do a good enough job generally takes less 
time than doing the work yourself. (Let's not go into the university point 
here, which from my perspective has always required both more and less staff 
support than it has...)

Thanks again for sharing the background here - if WMUK can share the same level 
of explanation along with future adverts, that would be great. :-)

Thanks,
Mike
P.S. I'm refraining from replying to Jon's email, as that would definitely come 
out rather bitey. :-/

On 22 Jul 2014, at 14:24, Katherine Bavage katherine.bav...@wikimedia.org.uk 
wrote:

 Hey Mike and everyone,
 
 I think Jon and others have replied in my stead (sorry, I was on holiday this 
 weekend and yesterday) on most points but I'd like to speak particularly to 
 the points about longer term planning and volunteers having opportunities in 
 this area. 
 So, this post will essentially deputize for me while I do a large piece of 
 work requested by the board of trustees and it will essentially focus on 
 three key areas; donor stewardship, donor data and records management, and 
 reporting and finance - especially gift aid claims.  The idea has been to 
 take off my hands really vital work that would otherwise get delayed and 
 ensure that on a day to day basis the charity retains a commitment to donor 
 services. 
 I don't know if you agree with me, but I think these tasks are a poor fit for 
 volunteers for several reasons. The first is, frankly, they aren't fun (well, 
 honestly donor correspondence can be REALLY fun but generally its just change 
 of address or cancellation queries and the like). The next is they are very 
 detail oriented and need to be done on a day to day basis - this is poor fit 
 for a lot of volunteers who want less time sensitive projects they can dip in 
 an out of. The final part is, despite what Andy says, to some extent data 
 protection and legal considerations because the gift aid claims especially 
 contain financial info and it is also extremely important they are done to a 
 very very high standard. I cannot ask the same minimum considerations of a 
 volunteer as a member of staff because legally, I cannot place demands like 
 that on people we do not pay, and also because that is life - volunteers 
 sometimes need to prioritise their personal lives and we need to be able to 
 guarantee outcomes with work like that. I believe we did ask for a volunteer 
 to help me with this work in September or October 2013 and no offer was 
 forthcoming and I had to spend three weeks of working to 10pm to get it done.
 Now, the good news. The reason I need to be taken off admin tasks is because 
 the Trustees have asked me to scope out a formal, measurable, inscrutable ( 
 ;) ) fundraising strategy and then develop a plan to support it. The research 
 report will be public and in front of the board (and therefore the 
 community!) in September. There will also be a public survey for volunteers 
 to complete next month. It will give consideration to ways in which 
 volunteers can input into fundraising activities. Some examples over the last 
 months of this have been; helping deliver surveys, ideas for grant 
 application opportunities, my supporting volunteers to make grant 
 applications and working with volunteers to deliver a donor event. So this 
 stuff is happening. The tricky part is always trying to segment work so 
 volunteers do fun stuff that is useful to the charity (otherwise we can't 
 really justify the use of my paid time) but that we guarantee hard outcomes 
 around our Fundraising promise are delivered to a professional, timely 
 

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimedia UK are looking for a Fundraising Assistant

2014-07-23 Thread Gordon Joly
On 22/07/14 16:25, Katherine Bavage wrote:
 Volunteers can do things to a very high standard. 


Notably the Trustees.

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimedia UK are looking for a Fundraising Assistant

2014-07-22 Thread Katherine Bavage
Hey Mike and everyone,

I think Jon and others have replied in my stead (sorry, I was on holiday
this weekend and yesterday) on most points but I'd like to speak
particularly to the points about longer term planning and volunteers having
opportunities in this area.

So, this post will essentially deputize for me while I do a large piece of
work requested by the board of trustees and it will essentially focus on
three key areas; donor stewardship, donor data and records management, and
reporting and finance - especially gift aid claims.  The idea has been to
take off my hands really vital work that would otherwise get delayed and
ensure that on a day to day basis the charity retains a commitment to donor
services.

I don't know if you agree with me, but I think these tasks are a poor fit
for volunteers for several reasons. The first is, frankly, they aren't fun
(well, honestly donor correspondence can be REALLY fun but generally its
just change of address or cancellation queries and the like). The next is
they are very detail oriented and need to be done on a day to day basis -
this is poor fit for a lot of volunteers who want less time sensitive
projects they can dip in an out of. The final part is, despite what Andy
says, to some extent data protection and legal considerations because the
gift aid claims especially contain financial info and it is also extremely
important they are done to a very very high standard. I cannot ask the same
minimum considerations of a volunteer as a member of staff because legally,
I cannot place demands like that on people we do not pay, and also because
that is life - volunteers sometimes need to prioritise their personal lives
and we need to be able to guarantee outcomes with work like that. I believe
we did ask for a volunteer to help me with this work in September or
October 2013 and no offer was forthcoming and I had to spend three weeks of
working to 10pm to get it done.

Now, the good news. The reason I need to be taken off admin tasks is
because the Trustees have asked me to scope out a formal, measurable,
inscrutable ( ;) ) fundraising strategy and then develop a plan to support
it. The research report will be public and in front of the board (and
therefore the community!) in September. There will also be a public survey
for volunteers to complete next month. It will give consideration to ways
in which volunteers can input into fundraising activities. Some examples
over the last months of this have been; helping deliver surveys, ideas for
grant application opportunities, my supporting volunteers to make grant
applications and working with volunteers to deliver a donor event. So this
stuff is happening. The tricky part is always trying to segment work so
volunteers do fun stuff that is useful to the charity (otherwise we can't
really justify the use of my paid time) but that we guarantee hard outcomes
around our Fundraising promise are delivered to a professional, timely
standard.

I can't pre-empt Trustee discussion and decision making about staffing
capacity, budgetary resources and volunteer led fundraising (I privately
have concerns that the latter though the most in line with our mission and
indeed, what I'm used to in the university sector, requires more staff
support than we currently have - but that is a point we could debate) but
it would certainly inform their thinking and mine if people gave their
thoughts on ways volunteers can lead fundraising either here or in the
August survey.

Final thought - I apologise that the staffing advert went out without a
better explanation like this first - I think I was a bit wrapped up in the
report process and I see now it's important to explain things too. Happy to
keep discussing here or on wiki as required.

*Katherine Bavage *
*Fundraising Manager *
*Wikimedia UK*
+44 20 7065 0752

Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and
Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered
Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT.
United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia
movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who
operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects).

*Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control
over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents.*


On 21 July 2014 10:25, Jon Davies jon.dav...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote:

 Good morning Mike, (and Charles and Harry),

 Answers in-line.


 On 20 July 2014 00:07, Michael Peel em...@mikepeel.net wrote:

 Hi Richard/WMUK staff,

 I'm rather puzzled by this. Given that:

 1) WMUK cannot raise funds through the Wikimedia annual fundraising
 campaign any more, which means that the number of donors through that
 method will not be increasing, and that the apparent alignment of this
 position with the fundraising period (the position wraps up at the end of
 Jan 2015) is rather misleading (unless WMUK is planning to 

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimedia UK are looking for a Fundraising Assistant

2014-07-22 Thread Katherine Bavage
Probably easier to make less bitey if you check that was what I intended to
insinuate :)

Volunteers can do things to a very high standard. We definitely have
volunteers who have been or are fundraisers and administrators. However,
the consequences of mistakes in gift aid claims or stewarding gifts are
serious. What I mean about a high standard is that it requires a high level
time commitment and focus. So its about availability, not ability per se. I
hope that clears up any insinuations.

In my experience the nature of admin tasks (day to day, time limited,
serious consequences for error) are poorly suited to what our volunteers
have traditionally wanted to do. Can I reiterate: in the past no one wanted
to do this. I did ask.

As for how entirely volunteer led and run orgs do it...In my experience
working for orgs the involvement of volunteers in back office admin can
create issues, requires support (which totally defeats the point of
unburdening me and freeing up time), and may not be a like for like
comparison in terms of the nature or volume of the work. Still, assuming
that you may have examples of excellence do let me know because me and Katy
could usefully look at or talk to them.

Anyway - I'm surprised to hear anyone from the community say volunteers
should be doing administrative support work. Historically this is more or
less the exact opposite of what I've been given to understand. If anyone
wants to speak to that point I'd be grateful.


*Katherine Bavage *
*Fundraising Manager *
*Wikimedia UK*
+44 20 7065 0752

Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and
Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered
Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT.
United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia
movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who
operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects).

*Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control
over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents.*


On 22 July 2014 15:17, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote:

 On 22 July 2014 14:24, Katherine Bavage
 katherine.bav...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote:

  The final part is, despite what Andy says, to some
  extent data protection and legal considerations

 My comment was Data protection is not a reason for volunteers not to
 undertake a task.

  because the gift aid claims especially contain
  financial info and it is also extremely important they
  are done to a very very high standard.

 I'm surprised by the apparent insinuation that volunteers can't work
 to a very very high standard.

 One wonders how all the charities who do use volunteers for such tasks
 - including those without any paid staff - cope.

 [I've tried to find a way to make this email less bitey, but really,
 I can't. Sorry.]

 --
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 @pigsonthewing
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimedia UK are looking for a Fundraising Assistant

2014-07-22 Thread Charles Matthews
On 22 July 2014 16:25, Katherine Bavage katherine.bav...@wikimedia.org.uk
wrote:


 Anyway - I'm surprised to hear anyone from the community say volunteers
 should be doing administrative support work. Historically this is more or
 less the exact opposite of what I've been given to understand. If anyone
 wants to speak to that point I'd be grateful.

 Having done a cross-section of fundraiser work while I was on the chapter
of WMUK, I find what Kat says rings true.

A small proportion of it is hearing donors tell us what great work we do:
which is no hardship at all. Much more is typical financial administration.
I have considerable experience of clubs that struggle to get treasurers,
and/or accounts. Makes sense to me to have staff roles.

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimedia UK are looking for a Fundraising Assistant

2014-07-21 Thread Jon Davies
Good morning Mike, (and Charles and Harry),

Answers in-line.


On 20 July 2014 00:07, Michael Peel em...@mikepeel.net wrote:

 Hi Richard/WMUK staff,

 I'm rather puzzled by this. Given that:

 1) WMUK cannot raise funds through the Wikimedia annual fundraising
 campaign any more, which means that the number of donors through that
 method will not be increasing, and that the apparent alignment of this
 position with the fundraising period (the position wraps up at the end of
 Jan 2015) is rather misleading (unless WMUK is planning to compete against
 the annual fundraiser);


You are completely correct, WMUK cannot raise funds through the Wikimedia
annual fundraising campaign any more, which means that the number of donors
through that method will not be increasing. But we still have a large
number of monthly and occasional donors. These need stewarding and their
payment monitored and processed, their queries answered and their gift aid
'paperwork' dealt with. This is a lot of work -at the backend' and needs to
be done professionally if we are to keep these donors, encourage them to
increase their donations and make  sure that all the processing is dealt
with properly.


 2) WMUK already has a staff member who is focused on fundraising, and many
 other staff members who can help with the administration work;



Katherine's main role will be looking for major fundraising opportunities
to enable the chapter to develop further. The FDC funding is fairly static
and we need to be able to gain financial support from big trusts and
institutions for the ambitious protect, eg. around software development,
that we would like to undertake. It is my judgement, and that of the
board's that we should offer her temporary support to allow her to use her
professional fundraising skills to more effect.

As to the 'many' other staff members.

Discounting the temporary 4 Wikimania staff I wonder where these 'many
other staff members' with the capacity to help are?
Take Stevie off comms and external work?
Take Jonathan off his GLAM work?
Take Toni off his Education work?
Take Katie off volunteer support?
Take Robin of his work in Wales?
Take Richard S off his finance work - which has increased dramatically
since we were able to manage with a volunteer treasurer?
Take Daria away from running our programmes?
That leaves Richard N who is up to his eyes, especially with FDC reporting
and managing our civicrm work etc etc..

So we might appear 'many' but in reality we are few and only human and work
long hours.


 3) This position wasn't included in WMUK's FDC application last year, with
 the implication that funding for this position is not guaranteed in the
 long run, despite the comment that the position may be renewable based on
 evaluation of its effect;


You are quite right. The funding is not guaranteed, hence the temporary
contract. If we find it helps pay for itself, we are currently undertaking
a review of our fundraising ambitions.  The FDC provides roughly two thirds
of our funding which means as an independent  charity and chapter we have
the flexibility to make local decisions.

4) Volunteers are being excluded from assisting with this work;


If a volunteer comes forward who is willing to commit themselves to this
work we would certainly welcome that as an option. In reality, and we know
this through our work over Wikimania, we have a limited pool of active
volunteers to draw on, many have jobs or other commitments in their lives,
and most want to volunteer in areas that relate to editing not back room
administration.


 5) WMUK has so far done nothing to seek funding outside of individual
 donors to the Wikimedia movement via the Wikimedia websites, and has not
 shared any plans to do anything along these lines any time soon,

 how is this staff position being justified? Wouldn't it be better to
 invest in volunteer support work instead, given the current funding
 situation?


We have been seeking funding from outside projects. We are doing a complete
review of fundraising, see the last board meeting, which will report to the
Board in October with a final paper in December.

If we are to make the impact we want we will need the funding to extend our
dev projects, Wikimedians in Residence, the VLE  etc.  This does not
preclude volunteer development which must go hand in hand. Specifically in
terms of fundraising I know Katherine is considering how to harness the
energy of our community.

I know your strong and properly held views but the chapter has changed a
great deal from the days when a volunteer board could try and manage
everything. We are in  a highly regulated sector with financial,
administrative and governance duties that mean we need support staff to be
well run.

Jon


 Thanks,
 Mike

 On 18 Jul 2014, at 14:26, Richard Nevell richard.nev...@wikimedia.org.uk
 wrote:

  Hello,
 
  Wikimedia UK are now accepting applications for a Fundraising Assistant
 to support the delivery of the charity's fundraising 

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimedia UK are looking for a Fundraising Assistant

2014-07-20 Thread Charles Matthews
On 20 July 2014 00:07, Michael Peel em...@mikepeel.net wrote:

 Hi Richard/WMUK staff,

 I'm rather puzzled by this. Given that:

 1) WMUK cannot raise funds through the Wikimedia annual fundraising
 campaign any more, which means that the number of donors through that
 method will not be increasing, and that the apparent alignment of this
 position with the fundraising period (the position wraps up at the end of
 Jan 2015) is rather misleading (unless WMUK is planning to compete against
 the annual fundraiser);

 Isn't that itself a rather misleading statement of the position?

WMUK will not be doing payment processing for the WMF fundraiser, as we
know, which takes place over the holiday season now in some
English-speaking countries, but at other periods in other parts of the
world. Talking about the fundraising period for the WMF is not quite what
it seems.

WMUK has its own donor base, and raising funds from them over the same
holiday period is legitimate. It is when many people turn their minds to
charity.

It is certainly an operational matter. Planning to compete against the
annual fundraiser seems to me a slanted way to view approaching donors who
have given to WMUK in the past, on the grounds that they may also see a
fundraising banner on the site.

Charles
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimedia UK are looking for a Fundraising Assistant

2014-07-19 Thread Michael Peel
Hi Richard/WMUK staff,

I'm rather puzzled by this. Given that:

1) WMUK cannot raise funds through the Wikimedia annual fundraising campaign 
any more, which means that the number of donors through that method will not be 
increasing, and that the apparent alignment of this position with the 
fundraising period (the position wraps up at the end of Jan 2015) is rather 
misleading (unless WMUK is planning to compete against the annual fundraiser);
2) WMUK already has a staff member who is focused on fundraising, and many 
other staff members who can help with the administration work;
3) This position wasn't included in WMUK's FDC application last year, with the 
implication that funding for this position is not guaranteed in the long run, 
despite the comment that the position may be renewable based on evaluation of 
its effect;
4) Volunteers are being excluded from assisting with this work;
5) WMUK has so far done nothing to seek funding outside of individual donors to 
the Wikimedia movement via the Wikimedia websites, and has not shared any plans 
to do anything along these lines any time soon,

how is this staff position being justified? Wouldn't it be better to invest in 
volunteer support work instead, given the current funding situation?

Thanks,
Mike

On 18 Jul 2014, at 14:26, Richard Nevell richard.nev...@wikimedia.org.uk 
wrote:

 Hello,
 
 Wikimedia UK are now accepting applications for a Fundraising Assistant to 
 support the delivery of the charity's fundraising programme, in particular 
 working with our donors and undertaking the essential administrative tasks 
 involved with donor stewardship.
 
 If you are interested in applying, more details can be found here. The 
 deadline for applications is 5pm BST on Friday 1st August 2014. 
 
 Regards,
 Richard Nevell
 
 -- 
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 Assistant Office Manager
 Wikimedia UK
 +44 (0) 20 7065 0753
 Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and 
 Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered 
 Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. 
 United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia 
 movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who 
 operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects).
 Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control over 
 Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents.
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimedia UK are looking for a Fundraising Assistant

2014-07-19 Thread HJ Mitchell
Mike, on your point 4, I don't think you'll realistically find volunteers who 
want to do this sort of back-end work (and there are probably good reasons - eg 
data protection - for it to be done by staff). 

I don't feel strongly enough to comment on nay of your other points, especially 
not at this time of night, but I'm certainly not going to oppose more volunteer 
support!
 
Harry Mitchellhttp://enwp.org/User:HJ

Phone: +44 (0) 7507 536971
Skype: harry_j_mitchell



 From: Michael Peel em...@mikepeel.net
To: UK Wikimedia mailing list wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org 
Sent: Sunday, 20 July 2014, 0:07
Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimedia UK are looking for a Fundraising 
Assistant
 

Hi Richard/WMUK staff,

I'm rather puzzled by this. Given that:

1) WMUK cannot raise funds through the Wikimedia annual fundraising campaign 
any more, which means that the number of donors through that method will not be 
increasing, and that the apparent alignment of this position with the 
fundraising period (the position wraps up at the end of Jan 2015) is rather 
misleading (unless WMUK is planning to compete against the annual fundraiser);
2) WMUK already has a staff member who is focused on fundraising, and many 
other staff members who can help with the administration work;
3) This position wasn't included in WMUK's FDC application last year, with the 
implication that funding for this position is not guaranteed in the long run, 
despite the comment that the position may be renewable based on evaluation of 
its effect;
4) Volunteers are being excluded from assisting with this work;
5) WMUK has so far done nothing to seek funding outside of individual donors to 
the Wikimedia movement via the Wikimedia websites, and has not shared any plans 
to do anything along these lines any time soon,

how is this staff position being justified? Wouldn't it be better to invest in 
volunteer support work instead, given the current funding situation?

Thanks,
Mike

On 18 Jul 2014, at 14:26, Richard Nevell richard.nev...@wikimedia.org.uk 
wrote:

 Hello,
 
 Wikimedia UK are now accepting applications for a Fundraising Assistant to 
 support the delivery of the charity's fundraising programme, in particular 
 working with our donors and undertaking the essential administrative tasks 
 involved with donor stewardship.
 
 If you are interested in applying, more details can be found here. The 
 deadline for applications is 5pm BST on Friday 1st August 2014. 
 
 Regards,
 Richard Nevell
 
 -- 
 Richard Nevell
 Assistant Office Manager
 Wikimedia UK
 +44 (0) 20 7065 0753
 Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and 
 Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered 
 Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. 
 United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia 
 movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who 
 operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects).
 Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control over 
 Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents.
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimedia UK are looking for a Fundraising Assistant

2014-07-19 Thread Michael Peel
Hi Harry,

That may sadly be true now that we have a lot of staff members, but 
historically that wasn't the case - I know that I volunteered a lot of my time 
to work on this sort of work, I know that Seddon also did so. I personally 
found the work I did very much more rewarding than I would have found going out 
on the high street with a coin collection box, given the cost:benefit ratio, 
and I'd hope that others would feel the same.

Thanks,
Mike

On 20 Jul 2014, at 00:33, HJ Mitchell hjmitch...@ymail.com wrote:

 Mike, on your point 4, I don't think you'll realistically find volunteers who 
 want to do this sort of back-end work (and there are probably good reasons - 
 eg data protection - for it to be done by staff). 
 
 I don't feel strongly enough to comment on nay of your other points, 
 especially not at this time of night, but I'm certainly not going to oppose 
 more volunteer support!
  
 Harry Mitchell
 http://enwp.org/User:HJ
 Phone: +44 (0) 7507 536971
 Skype: harry_j_mitchell
 From: Michael Peel em...@mikepeel.net
 To: UK Wikimedia mailing list wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org 
 Sent: Sunday, 20 July 2014, 0:07
 Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimedia UK are looking for a Fundraising   
 Assistant
 
 Hi Richard/WMUK staff,
 
 I'm rather puzzled by this. Given that:
 
 1) WMUK cannot raise funds through the Wikimedia annual fundraising campaign 
 any more, which means that the number of donors through that method will not 
 be increasing, and that the apparent alignment of this position with the 
 fundraising period (the position wraps up at the end of Jan 2015) is rather 
 misleading (unless WMUK is planning to compete against the annual fundraiser);
 2) WMUK already has a staff member who is focused on fundraising, and many 
 other staff members who can help with the administration work;
 3) This position wasn't included in WMUK's FDC application last year, with 
 the implication that funding for this position is not guaranteed in the long 
 run, despite the comment that the position may be renewable based on 
 evaluation of its effect;
 4) Volunteers are being excluded from assisting with this work;
 5) WMUK has so far done nothing to seek funding outside of individual donors 
 to the Wikimedia movement via the Wikimedia websites, and has not shared any 
 plans to do anything along these lines any time soon,
 
 how is this staff position being justified? Wouldn't it be better to invest 
 in volunteer support work instead, given the current funding situation?
 
 Thanks,
 Mike
 
 On 18 Jul 2014, at 14:26, Richard Nevell richard.nev...@wikimedia.org.uk 
 wrote:
 
  Hello,
  
  Wikimedia UK are now accepting applications for a Fundraising Assistant to 
  support the delivery of the charity's fundraising programme, in particular 
  working with our donors and undertaking the essential administrative tasks 
  involved with donor stewardship.
  
  If you are interested in applying, more details can be found here. The 
  deadline for applications is 5pm BST on Friday 1st August 2014. 
  
  Regards,
  Richard Nevell
  
  -- 
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  Assistant Office Manager
  Wikimedia UK
  +44 (0) 20 7065 0753
  Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and 
  Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered 
  Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. 
  United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia 
  movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who 
  operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects).
  Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control 
  over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents.
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimedia UK are looking for a Fundraising Assistant

2014-07-19 Thread Andy Mabbett
Data protection is not a reason for volunteers not to undertake a task.
On Jul 20, 2014 12:33 AM, HJ Mitchell hjmitch...@ymail.com wrote:

 Mike, on your point 4, I don't think you'll realistically find volunteers
 who want to do this sort of back-end work (and there are probably good
 reasons - eg data protection - for it to be done by staff).

 I don't feel strongly enough to comment on nay of your other points,
 especially not at this time of night, but I'm certainly not going to oppose
 more volunteer support!

 Harry Mitchell
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 Phone: +44 (0) 7507 536971
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  *From:* Michael Peel em...@mikepeel.net
 *To:* UK Wikimedia mailing list wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org
 *Sent:* Sunday, 20 July 2014, 0:07
 *Subject:* Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimedia UK are looking for a Fundraising
 Assistant

 Hi Richard/WMUK staff,

 I'm rather puzzled by this. Given that:

 1) WMUK cannot raise funds through the Wikimedia annual fundraising
 campaign any more, which means that the number of donors through that
 method will not be increasing, and that the apparent alignment of this
 position with the fundraising period (the position wraps up at the end of
 Jan 2015) is rather misleading (unless WMUK is planning to compete against
 the annual fundraiser);
 2) WMUK already has a staff member who is focused on fundraising, and many
 other staff members who can help with the administration work;
 3) This position wasn't included in WMUK's FDC application last year, with
 the implication that funding for this position is not guaranteed in the
 long run, despite the comment that the position may be renewable based on
 evaluation of its effect;
 4) Volunteers are being excluded from assisting with this work;
 5) WMUK has so far done nothing to seek funding outside of individual
 donors to the Wikimedia movement via the Wikimedia websites, and has not
 shared any plans to do anything along these lines any time soon,

 how is this staff position being justified? Wouldn't it be better to
 invest in volunteer support work instead, given the current funding
 situation?

 Thanks,
 Mike

 On 18 Jul 2014, at 14:26, Richard Nevell richard.nev...@wikimedia.org.uk
 wrote:

  Hello,
 
  Wikimedia UK are now accepting applications for a Fundraising Assistant
 to support the delivery of the charity's fundraising programme, in
 particular working with our donors and undertaking the essential
 administrative tasks involved with donor stewardship.
 
  If you are interested in applying, more details can be found here. The
 deadline for applications is 5pm BST on Friday 1st August 2014.
 
  Regards,
  Richard Nevell
 
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 Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered
 Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT.
 United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia
 movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who
 operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects).
  Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control
 over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents.
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[Wikimediauk-l] Wikimedia UK are looking for a Fundraising Assistant

2014-07-18 Thread Richard Nevell
Hello,

Wikimedia UK are now accepting applications for a Fundraising Assistant
https://wikimedia.org.uk/wiki/Fundraising_Assistant to support the
delivery of the charity's fundraising programme, in particular working with
our donors and undertaking the essential administrative tasks involved with
donor stewardship.

If you are interested in applying, more details can be found here
https://wikimedia.org.uk/wiki/Fundraising_Assistant. The deadline for
applications is 5pm BST on Friday 1st August 2014.

Regards,
Richard Nevell

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Assistant Office Manager
Wikimedia UK
+44 (0) 20 7065 0753

Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and
Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered
Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT.
United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia
movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who
operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects).

*Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control
over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents.*
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