Thanks Mounir,
these are helpful suggestions.
For the programme, I'd love for it to be community-driven, maybe it's
important to clarify that in the
application. I really think that is the community that has to decide what
to do in those days, and we already have some ideas. So, please make other
If you wish to add the Big Validate Button in a specific Wikisource, it
is your choice. But the Polish language Wikisource will definitely refuse
to use such a tool. So it should never become a general tool.
We have VERY BAD experience with new users making the final validation
process. Noticing
Yes, I sort of agree with this, I must say!
I love the idea of one-click validate this and go to next page, but I
reckon it should be when one is viewing wikitext. Maybe it could just be
as simple as save this and go to next? Although, then one doesn't get
confirmation that one's edits are
Ideally, yes, the user should proofread the wikitext.
We use wikitext to shape and format the text, we put templates and italics
and headers.
But I agree with Vigneron that for many, many pages in our books this is
not worth it, or, to explain me better:
* many pages are really simple, and if
That's a very good idea.
NO! NO! NO!
It is suggesting new users to behave like bots! Just click and go on?
Why to read the small-lettering texts? Just click the GGB (Great Green
Button).
In Polish language Wikisource we have VERY BAD experience with directing
new users to the final validation
2015-08-11 13:23 GMT+02:00 Andrea Zanni zanni.andre...@gmail.com:
Ankry,
there's no need to shout :-)
+1, especially when we're actually saying the same thing but with different
words.
Cdlt, ~nicolas
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While suggesting how the Andrea's ideas coud be implemented (in the
meantime, I wrote some js rows to upload quietly localStorage.rawCode,
localStorage.pageUser, localStorage.pageLevel, an localStorage.validable
too when reading any page in view mode), I was perfecly aware of what a
similar tool
Ankry,
there's no need to shout :-)
We are just *talking*, nobody is coming to Polish Wikisource and make you
use a tool you don't want.
You do what the Polish community wants to do.
I'm sorry, maybe I misunderstood.
I thought you want to include it into ProofreadPage extension as the
Repeating something I tried to explain earlier,
we could try to distinguish markup=layout from text.
But it's very difficult, and I stand with Vigneron saying that we should
aim to a 99,9% accuracy instead of total perfection, becaus the *cost* of
finding that 0,01% is really, really high.
I'm not sure we're all talking about the same thing.
First, this tool is just a tool. If someone is misusing a tool, don't blame
the tool, blame (and block) the user of the tool !
Then it seems that the quality level has not the same meaning on every
wikisources. Typo such as « rn » intead of «
Ankry,
there's no need to shout :-)
We are just *talking*, nobody is coming to Polish Wikisource and make you
use a tool you don't want.
You do what the Polish community wants to do.
Still, it's 10 years I'm on Wikisource projects (it.ws) and worries me the
most
is that the community grows
2015-08-11 11:28 GMT+01:00 Nicolas VIGNERON vigneron.nicolas at gmail.com:
Then it seems that the quality level has not the same meaning on
every wikisources. Typo such as « rn » intead of « m » are usually
removed on the red or yellow step on fr.ws (and such obvious error
can be seen before
Interestingly while we have a number of Australians who are very active in
the enWS space, I doubt that we will all (any?) will be able to make the
trek to Vienna, as fantastic as that would be.
It would be good if there was some capacity for a limited internet session
for those who cannot
Another question for Tpt: how far is the implementation of the Visual
Editor inside the Proofread Extension?
Who's working on it? Just you, as always?
Aubrey
On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 1:18 PM, zdzislaw zdzislaw.w...@gmail.com wrote:
2015-08-11 11:28 GMT+01:00 Nicolas VIGNERON vigneron.nicolas
2015-08-11 12:34 GMT+01:00 Nicolas VIGNERON vigneron.nicolas at gmail.com:
2015-08-11 13:18 GMT+02:00 zdzislaw zdzislaw.w...@gmail.com:
I'll write it again ... that is not safe to validate a page without
reviewing its wikicode.
Are I'm puzzled: why?
Strange... Are you against VisualEditor
2015-08-11 13:18 GMT+02:00 zdzislaw zdzislaw.w...@gmail.com:
2015-08-11 11:28 GMT+01:00 Nicolas VIGNERON vigneron.nicolas at gmail.com
:
Then it seems that the quality level has not the same meaning on
every wikisources. Typo such as « rn » intead of « m » are usually
removed on the red
2015-08-11 15:21 GMT+02:00 zdzislaw zdzislaw.w...@gmail.com:
2015-08-11 13:59 GMT+01:00 Nicolas VIGNERON vigneron.nicolas at gmail.com
:
You're mixing a little bit « validation » and « perfection ». For
example, if a page contains « word » or « wоrd » instead of « word
», it's not
2015-08-11 13:59 GMT+01:00 Nicolas VIGNERON vigneron.nicolas at gmail.com:
You're mixing a little bit « validation » and « perfection ». For
example, if a page contains « word » or « wоrd » instead of « word
», it's not perfect but it's valid as it invisible for 90% of
readers and tools
On pl.wikisource each correction level means that another person did the
correction again. The green status means the page was corrected three times
by three another persons.
Corrected, not read.
In my opinion Big Green Button Correction is useless. New users can click
only for stats, not for
2015-08-11 20:39 GMT+02:00 Wiera Lee wiera...@gmail.com:
On pl.wikisource each correction level means that another person did the
correction again. The green status means the page was corrected three times
by three another persons.
The colours are just for marking the status page, it's not per
Rough but running code of BGB is ready, and Andrea can test it to find bugs
and/or drawbacks by now, if he likes.
To lower the risk of a nonsense-click, BGB should pop out after some
reasonable delay - something less than the time needed to carefully compare
the page text and its image. To make
Luiz Augusto: Rough but running code of BGB is ready.
This is not a discussion. They have decided.
We can't change nothing. Well... Why go to Vienna?
Wieralee
2015-08-12 1:26 GMT+02:00 Luiz Augusto lugu...@gmail.com:
(Didn't read the entire thread; too long warning)
I must agree
Luiz Augusto: Rough but runing code of BGB is ready.
This is not a discussion. They had decided.
We can change nothing. Well... Why go to Vienna?
Wieralee
2015-08-12 1:26 GMT+02:00 Luiz Augusto lugu...@gmail.com:
(Didn't read the entire thread; too long warning)
I must agree with PL
Please don't presume that such a controversial tool hase been implemented
anywhere . running only means that che code can run; presently only
*one* user (Aubrey) can click it, just to test it.
Alex
2015-08-12 2:24 GMT+02:00 Wiera Lee wiera...@gmail.com:
Luiz Augusto: Rough but runing code
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