Re: [Wikitech-l] Google Code-in: are you in?

2013-10-26 Thread Jiabao Wu
Hi, I am very keen to help the Code-ins. I have posted a quite general task on https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Google_Code-In#Code. Shall I split the task to smaller ones (similar to the size as annoying_little_bugs) and define them before 28 October? I was GSoC 2013 participant and work on [bug

Re: [Wikitech-l] Bugzilla Weekly Report

2013-10-26 Thread MZMcBride
Quim Gil wrote: See Top closers and Top openers of all-time, last year and last month at http://korma.wmflabs.org/browser/top.html PS: yes, this information should appear at http://korma.wmflabs.org/browser/its.html - I will file a report. Thanks for these links. I clicked around a bit. Please

[Wikitech-l] Should MediaWiki CSS prefer non-free fonts?

2013-10-26 Thread Brad Jorsch (Anomie)
I came across Gerrit change 79948[1] today, which makes VectorBeta use a pile of non-free fonts (with one free font thrown in at the end as a sop). Is this really the direction we want to go, considering that in many other areas we prefer to use free software whenever we can? Looking around a

Re: [Wikitech-l] Should MediaWiki CSS prefer non-free fonts?

2013-10-26 Thread MZMcBride
Brad Jorsch (Anomie) wrote: I came across Gerrit change 79948 today, which makes VectorBeta use a pile of non-free fonts (with one free font thrown in at the end as a sop). Is this really the direction we want to go, considering that in many other areas we prefer to use free software whenever we

Re: [Wikitech-l] Should MediaWiki CSS prefer non-free fonts?

2013-10-26 Thread Brad Jorsch (Anomie)
On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 12:52 PM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: While this is a technical mailing list, this is a topic dealing with legal issues. This doesn't have any legal issues as far as I know, since we're not distributing any fonts in this context. It's just a matter of whether we

Re: [Wikitech-l] Should MediaWiki CSS prefer non-free fonts?

2013-10-26 Thread Siebrand Mazeland (WMF)
Thanks for making us aware of this, Brad. I've immediately removed an unneeded use in Translate and removed that entry from the list. One instance remains in the header monospace hack, could probably be changed to monospace, monospace. Can you please elaborate? Cheers! On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at

Re: [Wikitech-l] Should MediaWiki CSS prefer non-free fonts?

2013-10-26 Thread Antoine Musso
Le 26/10/13 20:00, Siebrand Mazeland (WMF) a écrit : One instance remains in the header monospace hack, could probably be changed to monospace, monospace. Can you please elaborate? Have a look at docs/uidesign/monospace.html which exposes the monospace issue. If you add another font after

Re: [Wikitech-l] Should MediaWiki CSS prefer non-free fonts?

2013-10-26 Thread Brion Vibber
So I'll just make a few brief, general points: * It might be nice for the design folks to weigh in here with their thoughts on font selection. * We traditionally didn't specify a lot of fonts at all, meaning you got whatever default fonts were configured on your system: thus, non-free fonts like

Re: [Wikitech-l] Should MediaWiki CSS prefer non-free fonts?

2013-10-26 Thread Brad Jorsch (Anomie)
On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 7:57 PM, Erwin Dokter er...@darcoury.nl wrote: This is completly a non-issue. CSS Font stacks merely *refer* to a font already installed (and paid for) on a reader's computer. There are no legal issues arising form this whatsoever. You missed the point. The issue is

Re: [Wikitech-l] Should MediaWiki CSS prefer non-free fonts?

2013-10-26 Thread Brandon Harris
On Oct 26, 2013, at 2:31 PM, Ryan Kaldari rkald...@wikimedia.org wrote: That said, my personal preference would be for us to keep our font neutrality and not declare anything other than 'serif' and 'sans-serif', but I'm open to listening to other people's arguments. rgree++

[Wikitech-l] Possible topics for the next RFC review

2013-10-26 Thread Rob Lanphier
Hi folks, Here's the RFCs that have the most interest expressed on the Architecture Summit invite page[1]: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/TitleValue https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/Configuration_database

Re: [Wikitech-l] Should MediaWiki CSS prefer non-free fonts?

2013-10-26 Thread John Vandenberg
On Oct 27, 2013 4:19 AM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: Brad Jorsch (Anomie) wrote: On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 12:52 PM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: There's an open question in my mind as to what constitutes a non-free font, In this context, I mean non-free in the context of