Re: [Wikitech-l] Recommending Firefox to users using legacy browsers?

2017-08-31 Thread Comet styles
The recent update of Firefox has made it worse, it basically kills most of the extensions, deletes your browser bookmark cache and make nearly all legacy addons useless, so yeah no, unless Firefox stop making things worse, they should not be the alternative, most would rather stick with Google

Re: [Wikitech-l] Recommending Firefox to users using legacy browsers?

2017-08-31 Thread Legoktm
Hi, On 08/31/2017 02:20 PM, Fæ wrote: > +1 on appearing to be a slippery slope and benefiting from wider, > political, discussion. Just to clarify, I fully plan on turning this into a wider discussion on Meta or alternative venue if/when pursuing this further. I was just trying to use wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Recommending Firefox to users using legacy browsers?

2017-08-31 Thread Gergo Tisza
On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 1:37 PM, bawolff wrote: > I'm concerned this would be seen as an inapropriate bias. > We could send them to something like https://whatbrowser.org/ or https://browsehappy.com/ Motivating users to update their outdated browsers would definitely be a

Re: [Wikitech-l] Recommending Firefox to users using legacy browsers?

2017-08-31 Thread Legoktm
Hi, On 08/31/2017 01:51 PM, Max Semenik wrote: > +1 to that. Additionally, the proposed method wouldn't even work because we > blacklist crappy browsers from receiving JS. This isn't strictly true, we give legacy browsers some JS to make new HTML5 elements work using html5shiv[1]. And I think

[Wikitech-l] Phabricator monthly statistics - 2017-08

2017-08-31 Thread communitymetrics
Hi Community Metrics team, This is your automatic monthly Phabricator statistics mail. Accounts created in (2017-08): 300 Active Maniphest users (any activity) in (2017-08): 928 Task authors in (2017-08): 519 Users who have closed tasks in (2017-08): 293 Projects which had at least one task

[Wikitech-l] Readers monthly update for August 2017

2017-08-31 Thread Chris Koerner
Good day, I'm here again with the monthly update from the Readers department. As always, feedback and questions are welcome. == Discussions == * Discussion around the mobile app Reading List feature will be starting soon (Draft). [0] === Apps === * The Android app rolled out an update with

Re: [Wikitech-l] Recommending Firefox to users using legacy browsers?

2017-08-31 Thread David Gerard
There's a pile of minor open source browsers too ... maybe redirect to a page with a list. - d. On 31 August 2017 at 22:48, Neil Patel Quinn wrote: > Personally (because I have no expertise in thing kind of thing in my WMF > capacity), I'd very much support this. It

Re: [Wikitech-l] Recommending Firefox to users using legacy browsers?

2017-08-31 Thread Neil Patel Quinn
Personally (because I have no expertise in thing kind of thing in my WMF capacity), I'd very much support this. It *would *be showing a bias towards Mozilla and Firefox, but I think it's entirely reasonable for us to be biased towards non-profit, open technology. A web with Firefox as a strong

Re: [Wikitech-l] Recommending Firefox to users using legacy browsers?

2017-08-31 Thread Fæ
On 31 August 2017 at 21:37, bawolff wrote: > On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 8:14 PM, Legoktm wrote: >> Hello, >> >> This was something that came up during "The Big Open" at Wikimania, when >> Katherine Maher talked with Ryan Merkley (CEO of Creative

Re: [Wikitech-l] Recommending Firefox to users using legacy browsers?

2017-08-31 Thread Jon Robson
The best way we can invest in Firefox is via open web technology such as push notifications imo. On Thu, 31 Aug 2017 at 16:51 Max Semenik wrote: > +1 to that. Additionally, the proposed method wouldn't even work because we > blacklist crappy browsers from receiving JS. >

Re: [Wikitech-l] Recommending Firefox to users using legacy browsers?

2017-08-31 Thread Max Semenik
+1 to that. Additionally, the proposed method wouldn't even work because we blacklist crappy browsers from receiving JS. On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 1:37 PM, bawolff wrote: > On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 8:14 PM, Legoktm > wrote: > > Hello, > > > >

Re: [Wikitech-l] Recommending Firefox to users using legacy browsers?

2017-08-31 Thread bawolff
On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 8:14 PM, Legoktm wrote: > Hello, > > This was something that came up during "The Big Open" at Wikimania, when > Katherine Maher talked with Ryan Merkley (CEO of Creative Commons) and > Mark Surman (ED of Mozilla Foundation). One of the themes

[Wikitech-l] Recommending Firefox to users using legacy browsers?

2017-08-31 Thread Legoktm
Hello, This was something that came up during "The Big Open" at Wikimania, when Katherine Maher talked with Ryan Merkley (CEO of Creative Commons) and Mark Surman (ED of Mozilla Foundation). One of the themes mentioned was that our projects need to work together and support each other. In that

[Wikitech-l] Wikilabels incident: Reversed diffs

2017-08-31 Thread Amir Tafreshi
Hello, Today, we discovered a major regression in Wikilabels. We've patched the issue and made an emergency deployment. We also deleted some labels that were saved while the system was compromised. Here is the details of of what happened:

[Wikitech-l] Ganglia deprecation / Authentication will be enabled next Monday

2017-08-31 Thread Moritz Mühlenhoff
Hi, for a long time https://ganglia.wikimedia.org has been carrying a note that Ganglia is deprecated in favour of Grafana (https://grafana.wikimedia.org). On next Monday (4th of September) we'll take that deprecation one step further and move Ganglia behind authentication (the remaining use