Re: [Wikitech-l] Question to WMF: Backlog on bugs

2019-03-09 Thread Victoria Stavridou-Coleman
Re reading this now on the ground in Austin, reminds me not to send emails in a hurry from an airplane! So trying again - hopefully more grammatically sound this time! The Tech Engagement team (which includes Wikimedia Cloud Services) in the Tech department is investing in a developer advocacy

Re: [Wikitech-l] Question to WMF: Backlog on bugs

2019-03-09 Thread Victoria Coleman
Also, the Tech team at the Foundation is investing in Technical Engagement team who I hope will be (amongst other things) become advocates for the tech debt that affects our communities. Best regards, Victoria Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 9, 2019, at 6:28 PM, bawolff wrote: > > Regarding:

Re: [Wikitech-l] Question to WMF: Backlog on bugs

2019-03-09 Thread bawolff
Regarding: >My proposal is to begin the discussion here: how can we better relay issues >that are more important to communities than new features? How can we have a >"community whishlist for bugs"? Well fundamentally it starts with making a list. This is basically a lobbying discussion right.

Re: [Wikitech-l] Question to WMF: Backlog on bugs

2019-03-09 Thread Dan Garry (Deskana)
Strainu, I, too, am glad for the discussion! On Sat, 9 Mar 2019 at 22:31, Strainu wrote: > Let me start with a simple question, to put the references to wmf into > context. You keep talking below about volunteer developers and how they can > take over any project. I'm confused by this. I

[Wikitech-l] Question to WMF: Backlog on bugs

2019-03-09 Thread Strainu
Dan, Thank you for your response. I appreciate far more someone disagreeing with me than someone ignoring me :) Let me start with a simple question, to put the references to wmf into context. You keep talking below about volunteer developers and how they can take over any project. While that's

Re: [Wikitech-l] Community-Engineering gaps as defined in configuration

2019-03-09 Thread bawolff
In regards to wgUseRCPatrol - I suspect (but don't know) that originally that was disabled on enwiki as a performance thing. If it was a performance concern, that's probably irrelevant at this point. I generally agree that its good to try an unify config complexity where it makes sense. But I

Re: [Wikitech-l] Community-Engineering gaps as defined in configuration

2019-03-09 Thread Risker
I suspect that a major factor in whether or not to deploy many of these extensions to every wiki is that, frankly...not every wiki has enough active editors for these extensions to make sense or to be helpful. In some ways, the extension may well be unhelpful or could act to distract the few

Re: [Wikitech-l] Question to WMF: Backlog on bugs

2019-03-09 Thread Pine W
This discussion touches on a number of my frustrations. If someone is in a bad mood then they might want to postpone reading my comments below. As far as I know, WMF wants to advertise itself as being a provider of infrastructure for fundraising purposes, and wants to exercise absolute power over

[Wikitech-l] Community-Engineering gaps as defined in configuration

2019-03-09 Thread Eran Rosenthal
Hi, Wiki communities can ask to override their default configurations (following consensus). The reasons to override may vary: 1. *customization* for community to align to community specific policy (example: special namespaces / upload policy/user groups rights defined per project and

Re: [Wikitech-l] Question to WMF: Backlog on bugs

2019-03-09 Thread Dan Garry (Deskana)
On Sat, 9 Mar 2019 at 11:26, Strainu wrote: > How many successful commercial projects leave customer issues unresolved > for years because they're working on something else now? > Almost all of them, they just keep it secret. Companies pay millions of dollars each year for support packages,

Re: [Wikitech-l] Question to WMF: Backlog on bugs

2019-03-09 Thread Strainu
Pe vineri, 8 martie 2019, bawolff a scris: > "tracked" does not mean someone is planning to work on it. This could be > for a lot of reasons, maybe the bug is unclear, maybe its not obvious what > a good way to fix is, maybe nobody cares (This sounds harsh, but the simple > truth is, different