[Wikitech-l] More Skin JS cleanup thinking...

2009-04-18 Thread Michael Dale
So I was thinking instead of just packaging in jQuery I should package in / move the entire mv_embed folder into the skins directory .. it does not make sense to maintain two branches reinventing what mv_embed.js provides in the process of refactoring other core mediaWiki javascript. We will

Re: [Wikitech-l] Skin JS cleanup and jQuery

2009-04-16 Thread Michael Dale
-- Sergey Chernyshev http://www.sergeychernyshev.com/ On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 5:29 PM, Michael Dale md...@wikimedia.org wrote: These changes will probably result in some minor adjustments to existing skins. (I will try not to completely break compatibility cuz I know there are many

Re: [Wikitech-l] Skin JS cleanup and jQuery

2009-04-16 Thread Michael Dale
, Sergey -- Sergey Chernyshev http://www.sergeychernyshev.com/ On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 5:29 PM, Michael Dale md...@wikimedia.org wrote: These changes will probably result in some minor adjustments to existing skins. (I will try not to completely break compatibility cuz I know

Re: [Wikitech-l] Skin JS cleanup and jQuery

2009-04-16 Thread Michael Dale
individually requested. If we really want all the style sheets grouped I can bump that on the priority list to right after the upload api stuff that I have to finish up ;) --michael Brion Vibber wrote: Just a heads-up -- Michael Dale is working on some cleanup of how the various JavaScript

Re: [Wikitech-l] Skin JS cleanup and jQuery

2009-04-15 Thread Michael Dale
/blog/2009/03/27/add-media-wizard-and-firefogg-on-test-wikimediaorg/ peace, michael Brion Vibber wrote: Just a heads-up -- Michael Dale is working on some cleanup of how the various JavaScript bits are loaded by the skins to centralize some of the currently horridly spread-out code

[Wikitech-l] Browser Percentages for Contributers

2009-04-13 Thread Michael Dale
I am wondering if anyone has some contributer browser-client information handy or can point me to a some dataset that I could query to get the following information: 1) What is wikipedia client browser usage percentage distribution ( I recall that being published recently but I have misplaced

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Commons-l] add media wizard in testing / update

2009-04-01 Thread Michael Dale
as some have pointed out its test.wikipedia.org ( not test.wikimedia.org ) Michael Dale wrote: The add media Wizard is in testing see blog post: http://metavid.org/blog/2009/03/27/add-media-wizard-and-firefogg-on-test-wikimediaorg/ If no one objects (or has any blocker bugs that I have

[Wikitech-l] add media wizard in testing / update

2009-03-31 Thread Michael Dale
The add media Wizard is in testing see blog post: http://metavid.org/blog/2009/03/27/add-media-wizard-and-firefogg-on-test-wikimediaorg/ If no one objects (or has any blocker bugs that I have missed) I will add the gadget option for firefogg / add media wizard to commons shortly. (for wider

Re: [Wikitech-l] Upload-by-URL for test.wikipedia.org

2009-03-23 Thread Michael Dale
. In addition to being able to handle large files without an ugly manual download+reupload, the upload-by-URL functionality is also needed for future-facing work Michael Dale is working on to allow an on-wiki media picker to fetch freely-licensed files from Flickr, Archive.org, and other places. We

Re: [Wikitech-l] Front-end performance optimization

2009-02-25 Thread Michael Dale
Sergey Chernyshev wrote: Yes, of course - I checked it out and that's why I quoted it in my original email. My brief overview made me feel that it wasn't enough. I just didn't want this to be only in context of localization as performance is more related to overall user experience then to

Re: [Wikitech-l] Javascript localization, minify, gzip cache forever

2009-02-24 Thread Michael Dale
nightlies its 5 scripts at a time. So you still end up doing a few round trips when you have a high script count. --michael Aryeh Gregor wrote: On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 2:35 PM, Michael Dale md...@wikimedia.org wrote: ... I was looking at commons upload form JavaScript load profile is like

Re: [Wikitech-l] Javascript localization, minify, gzip cache forever

2009-02-23 Thread Michael Dale
... I was looking at commons upload form JavaScript load profile is like a long waterfall or rather a steep river :( http://metavid.org/promo/round_trips.png Would be much nicer do 1 or 2 request instead of 27 ... true... a lot are gadgets and what not.. but even on a not logged in Main page

[Wikitech-l] Javascript localization, minify, gzip cache forever

2009-02-20 Thread Michael Dale
So I was running into the problem of localizing the messages for the add_media_wizard mv_embed associated libraries. So I have taken a first pass at witting the script server (that I had previously described) http://tinyurl.com/ae44vd Below is a description of how it works. the code is in

Re: [Wikitech-l] Interwiki recommendations

2009-02-03 Thread Michael Dale
with MediaWiki ... So the question is, why re-invent the wheel ? Thanks, GerardM 2009/2/3 Michael Dale md...@wikimedia.org We really need a wikidata type site. We ran into similar issues with structured data between government data wikis. Yaron hacked up a (relatively simple

[Wikitech-l] enable $wgAllowCopyUploads follow-up

2009-01-28 Thread Michael Dale
Revising the $wgAllowCopyUploads request ... The thread ended here: http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2009-January/040942.html Any updates on this; or ideas on how we could support client initiated importing of media assets over http? --michael

Re: [Wikitech-l] Transcoding Video Contributions in Mediawiki

2009-01-26 Thread Michael Dale
good points I don't think it would be a _bad_ idea to support server side transcoding it ofcourse gives more flexibility to have the original file and then let us target different output formats in the future. Would let us support camera video uploads etc. But there are logistical issues.

[Wikitech-l] Transcoding Video Contributions in Mediawiki

2009-01-19 Thread Michael Dale
Mike Baynton asked about some server side transcoding code he has worked on this seems appropriate for wikitech-l so I have cc'ed it here. The current direction is to encourage in-browser client side transcoding. This offloads the costs of server side transcoding and maximizes quality letting

Re: [Wikitech-l] Transcoding Video Contributions in Mediawiki

2009-01-19 Thread Michael Dale
Gregory Maxwell wrote: This does client side transcoding, but as far as the user can tell it's all done by the server except no long transmission time for his 14gbyte DV movie. (although, perhaps a long transcoding time. :) ) At some talks here a FOMS (foundations of open source media)

Re: [Wikitech-l] Client side transcoding with firefogg (early testing)...

2009-01-19 Thread Michael Dale
opps bad url for add_media_wizard try: importScriptURI('http://mvbox2.cse.ucsc.edu/w/extensions/MetavidWiki/skins/add_media_wizard.js'); --michael Michael Dale wrote: While the upload API is under development / stabilization ... I hacked in basic firefogg upload support

[Wikitech-l] Client side transcoding with firefogg (early testing)...

2009-01-18 Thread Michael Dale
While the upload API is under development / stabilization ... I hacked in basic firefogg upload support to the add_media_wizard ... Since firefogg works over post you can use it with the existing upload interface (without good error handling) If you first download the browser extension

[Wikitech-l] enable $wgAllowCopyUploads on wikimedia projects?

2009-01-09 Thread Michael Dale
Can we look into enabling $wgAllowCopyUploads on Wikimedia projects? This will let Wikimedia work a lot better with external archives especial around large video files that are cumbersome for users to download and then upload over our POST upload interface on home Internet connections. In

Re: [Wikitech-l] api file uploading

2009-01-08 Thread Michael Dale
great :) this will greatly benefit both the add_media_wizard and the in-browser theora video transcoder / uploader :) --michael Bryan Tong Minh wrote: On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 3:19 PM, Roan Kattouw roan.katt...@home.nl wrote: Chad schreef: I think the thing in the way of this is a

[Wikitech-l] default quality for ogg content?

2009-01-08 Thread Michael Dale
Once we ship the firefogg extension support for the uploading videos; commons should request that users select the highest quality source video footage available ie the HD video their camera captured or DV original edited footage from their local computer and then commons will supply the

Re: [Wikitech-l] Future of Javascript and mediaWiki

2008-12-12 Thread Michael Dale
, 2008 at 6:37 PM, Michael Dale md...@wikimedia.org wrote: The debug switch would modify the HTML output to point at the individual files with a GET seed ie myscript.js??php= date()? or something of that nature bypassing the script loader altogether. The bulk of extra content is comments, code

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