Re: [Wikitech-l] Corporate needs are different (RE: How can we help Corporations use MW?)

2013-02-15 Thread Maria Miteva
Hi, There are so many extensions useful to the enterprise but probably also so many which are not useful at all or not maintained and if I wanted to start a corporate wiki right now I would probably be very lost what to look at and how people do things, so it seemed like a good idea to list the

Re: [Wikitech-l] Corporate needs are different (RE: How can we help Corporations use MW?)

2013-02-15 Thread vitalif
There are so many extensions useful to the enterprise but probably also so many which are not useful at all or not maintained and if I wanted to start a corporate wiki right now I would probably be very lost what to look at and how people do things, so it seemed like a good idea to list the

Re: [Wikitech-l] Corporate needs are different (RE: How can we help Corporations use MW?)

2013-02-14 Thread Maria Miteva
Hi everyone, I guess this would not directly solve any of the problems listed, but would it be helpful to bring back to life https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Enterprise_hub ? It was started by somebody an year or two ago but seems to have been abandoned at a draft stage. I am thinking if everybody

Re: [Wikitech-l] Corporate needs are different (RE: How can we help Corporations use MW?)

2013-02-14 Thread vitalif
I guess this would not directly solve any of the problems listed, but would it be helpful to bring back to life https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Enterprise_hub ? It was started by somebody an year or two ago but seems to have been abandoned at a draft stage. I am thinking if everybody adds some

Re: [Wikitech-l] Corporate needs are different (RE: How can we help Corporations use MW?)

2013-02-14 Thread Dmitriy Sintsov
On 14.02.2013 21:14, vita...@yourcmc.ru wrote: I guess this would not directly solve any of the problems listed, but would it be helpful to bring back to life https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Enterprise_hub ? It was started by somebody an year or two ago but seems to have been abandoned at a

Re: [Wikitech-l] Corporate needs are different (RE: How can we help Corporations use MW?)

2013-02-13 Thread Marco Fleckinger
On 02/12/2013 05:30 PM, Mark A. Hershberger wrote: On 02/11/2013 11:25 AM, Daniel Barrett wrote: Imagine if Wikipedia had a separate wiki for every city in the world. The same problem would result. I find it is easier to imagine what would happen if each language had a separate Wikipedia.

Re: [Wikitech-l] Corporate needs are different (RE: How can we help Corporations use MW?)

2013-02-13 Thread Brian Wolff
On 2013-02-13 11:27 AM, Marco Fleckinger marco.fleckin...@wikipedia.at wrote: On 02/12/2013 05:30 PM, Mark A. Hershberger wrote: On 02/11/2013 11:25 AM, Daniel Barrett wrote: Imagine if Wikipedia had a separate wiki for every city in the world. The same problem would result. I find it

Re: [Wikitech-l] Corporate needs are different (RE: How can we help Corporations use MW?)

2013-02-12 Thread Platonides
On 12/02/13 06:26, Brian Wolff wrote: For subpages to really fill this use case I think the page title would have to show only (or primarily emphasize) the subpage name instead of the full page name. I think it has been brought up in the past, there may be an extension doing that. Also it

Re: [Wikitech-l] Corporate needs are different (RE: How can we help Corporations use MW?)

2013-02-12 Thread Daniel Barrett
I wished for: 1. A desire for a department to have their own space on the wiki. S Page asked: I assume you looked at enabling subpages in the main namespace?[1] That way Human Resources/Payroll/Show_me_the_money gets a nice breadcrumb up to Payroll and Human Resources landing pages.

Re: [Wikitech-l] Corporate needs are different (RE: How can we help Corporations use MW?)

2013-02-12 Thread Mark A. Hershberger
On 02/11/2013 11:25 AM, Daniel Barrett wrote: Imagine if Wikipedia had a separate wiki for every city in the world. The same problem would result. I find it is easier to imagine what would happen if each language had a separate Wikipedia. We would end up with slightly different facts

Re: [Wikitech-l] Corporate needs are different (RE: How can we help Corporations use MW?)

2013-02-11 Thread S Page
On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 1:31 PM, Daniel Barrett d...@vistaprint.com wrote: ... 1. A desire for a department to have their own space on the wiki. I assume you looked at enabling subpages in the main namespace?[1] That way Human Resources/Payroll/Show_me_the_money gets a nice breadcrumb up to

Re: [Wikitech-l] Corporate needs are different (RE: How can we help Corporations use MW?)

2013-02-11 Thread Brian Wolff
On 2013-02-12 12:55 AM, S Page sp...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 1:31 PM, Daniel Barrett d...@vistaprint.com wrote: ... 1. A desire for a department to have their own space on the wiki. I assume you looked at enabling subpages in the main namespace?[1] That way Human

Re: [Wikitech-l] Corporate needs are different (RE: How can we help Corporations use MW?)

2013-02-09 Thread Antoine Musso
Le 08/02/13 21:51, Lee Worden a écrit : As an aside, you could almost certainly do this cheaper with WorkingWiki. If you can write a make rule to retrieve the Excel file from the network drive and make it into html and image files (and maybe a little wikitext to format the page), you're

Re: [Wikitech-l] Corporate needs are different (RE: How can we help Corporations use MW?)

2013-02-09 Thread Platonides
On 08/02/13 21:51, Lee Worden wrote: As an aside, you could almost certainly do this cheaper with WorkingWiki. If you can write a make rule to retrieve the Excel file from the network drive and make it into html and image files (and maybe a little wikitext to format the page), you're done.

Re: [Wikitech-l] Corporate needs are different (RE: How can we help Corporations use MW?)

2013-02-09 Thread David Gerard
On 9 February 2013 23:00, Platonides platoni...@gmail.com wrote: You could do it with openoffice.org/libreoffice, although I agree that getting all the dependencies right for running in the server is a bit tedious. You can also use Excel itself for that (eg. COM automation), as suggested by

Re: [Wikitech-l] Corporate needs are different (RE: How can we help Corporations use MW?)

2013-02-09 Thread Lee Worden
On 02/09/2013 03:00 PM, Platonides wrote: On 08/02/13 21:51, Lee Worden wrote: As an aside, you could almost certainly do this cheaper with WorkingWiki. If you can write a make rule to retrieve the Excel file from the network drive and make it into html and image files (and maybe a little

Re: [Wikitech-l] Corporate needs are different (RE: How can we help Corporations use MW?)

2013-02-08 Thread planetenxin
Hi Dan, thanks a lot for the insights to the vistaprint MediaWiki ecosystem. Did you give Semantic MediaWiki a try? /Alexander Am 07.02.2013 22:31, schrieb Daniel Barrett: Vistaprint (www.vistaprint.com) has a hugely successful MediaWiki system internally. 150,000+ topics, 1000+ active

Re: [Wikitech-l] Corporate needs are different (RE: How can we help Corporations use MW?)

2013-02-08 Thread vitalif
1. A desire for a department to have their own space on the wiki. In our organisation (CUSTIS, Russia) we easily solve it by creating one primary wiki + separate ones for different departments. It's just a normal wiki family with shared code. Very simple solution without any extensions. The

Re: [Wikitech-l] Corporate needs are different (RE: How can we help Corporations use MW?)

2013-02-08 Thread Daniel Barrett
vita...@yourcmc.ru writes: In our organisation (CUSTIS, Russia) we easily solve it by creating one primary wiki + separate ones for different departments. In practice, we have found this doesn't work well for us (with thousands of employees). Each department winds up writing its own wiki page

Re: [Wikitech-l] Corporate needs are different (RE: How can we help Corporations use MW?)

2013-02-08 Thread Sumana Harihareswara
On 02/08/2013 01:23 PM, Daniel Barrett wrote: also we have SemanticMediaWiki. We started looking into Semantic MediaWiki - it has impressive features. But we got scared off by stories that it slows down the wiki too much. Maybe we should give it another look. DanB A recent improvement in

Re: [Wikitech-l] Corporate needs are different (RE: How can we help Corporations use MW?)

2013-02-08 Thread bawolff
On 2013-02-08 2:28 PM, Sumana Harihareswara suma...@wikimedia.org wrote: On 02/08/2013 01:23 PM, Daniel Barrett wrote: also we have SemanticMediaWiki. We started looking into Semantic MediaWiki - it has impressive features. But we got scared off by stories that it slows down the wiki

Re: [Wikitech-l] Corporate needs are different (RE: How can we help Corporations use MW?)

2013-02-08 Thread Jeroen De Dauw
Hey, We started looking into Semantic MediaWiki - it has impressive features. But we got scared off by stories that it slows down the wiki too much. Maybe we should give it another look. You _can_ abuse SMW in a way that it will kill performance on your wiki. If you use it in a sane fashion,

Re: [Wikitech-l] Corporate needs are different (RE: How can we help Corporations use MW?)

2013-02-08 Thread Lee Worden
On 02/08/2013 10:23 AM, Daniel Barrett wrote: O_O $1 excel-to-html? O_OOO Why not just copy-paste into for example wikEd (google://wikEd)? :-))) Not that beautiful, but it works. Now, I will demonstrate what I mean by Corporate needs are different. :-) With our extension, the

Re: [Wikitech-l] Corporate needs are different (RE: How can we help Corporations use MW?)

2013-02-08 Thread vitalif
In practice, we have found this doesn't work well for us (with thousands of employees). Yeah, our company doesn't have thousands of employees :-) Each department winds up writing its own wiki page about the same topic (say, Topic X), and they're all different. So it means most of your

[Wikitech-l] Corporate needs are different (RE: How can we help Corporations use MW?)

2013-02-07 Thread Daniel Barrett
Vistaprint (www.vistaprint.com) has a hugely successful MediaWiki system internally. 150,000+ topics, 1000+ active users across several continents, five years of history, and a fully supported team of developers to create extensions. (We are looking into open-sourcing some of them.) The main

Re: [Wikitech-l] Corporate needs are different (RE: How can we help Corporations use MW?)

2013-02-07 Thread Tyler Romeo
I don't mind these discussions, but can we please stop changing the subject, because it's changed three times and it makes it difficult to keep track of. *--* *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2015 Major in Computer Science www.whizkidztech.com | tylerro...@gmail.com

Re: [Wikitech-l] Corporate needs are different (RE: How can we help Corporations use MW?)

2013-02-07 Thread Jay Ashworth
- Original Message - From: Daniel Barrett d...@vistaprint.com 1. A desire for a department to have their own space on the wiki. I'm not talking about access control, but (1) customized look feel, and (2) ability to narrow searches to find articles only within that space. The closest