Re: [Wikitech-l] Email notification sender

2012-01-03 Thread Strainu
2012/1/2 K. Peachey p858sn...@gmail.com: On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 5:13 PM, M. Williamson node...@gmail.com wrote: Correction: Wikipedia is the largest part of the projects. Why do people always want to pretend otherwise, or lament that fact? Never said otherwise, Huib just said Wikipedia was one

Re: [Wikitech-l] Email notification sender

2012-01-03 Thread Nickanc Wikipedia
I totally agree with Strainu. 2012/1/3 Strainu strain...@gmail.com: 2012/1/2 K. Peachey p858sn...@gmail.com: On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 5:13 PM, M. Williamson node...@gmail.com wrote: Correction: Wikipedia is the largest part of the projects. Why do people always want to pretend otherwise, or

Re: [Wikitech-l] Email notification sender

2012-01-03 Thread Erik Moeller
On Sat, Dec 31, 2011 at 10:09 AM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote: Why do email notifications from Wikipedia have the sender as MediaWiki Mail? Most Wikipedia users probably don't know what MediaWiki is. I suggest it be changed to Wikipedia or Wikipedia notifications or something

Re: [Wikitech-l] Email notification sender

2012-01-03 Thread Thomas Gries
Am 03.01.2012 18:40, schrieb Erik Moeller: On Sat, Dec 31, 2011 at 10:09 AM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote: Why do email notifications from Wikipedia have the sender as MediaWiki Mail? Most Wikipedia users probably don't know what MediaWiki is. I suggest it be changed to

Re: [Wikitech-l] Email notification sender

2012-01-03 Thread Brion Vibber
On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 10:16 AM, Thomas Gries m...@tgries.de wrote: See also http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/phase3/includes/UserMailer.php?revision=104208view=markup and change line 195 $headers['X-Mailer']='MediaWiki mailer'; to something else I don't see any reason to

Re: [Wikitech-l] Email notification sender

2012-01-03 Thread Brandon Harris
Agree++; X-Mailer is not intended to be user-visible. It is most often used for readers to adjust for display quirks these days, but also to inform MTAs of behavior quirks. This should be the same across all instances. In fact, it probably shouldn't be user-configurable.

Re: [Wikitech-l] Email notification sender

2012-01-03 Thread Strainu
2012/1/3 Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org: On Sat, Dec 31, 2011 at 10:09 AM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote: Why do email notifications from Wikipedia have the sender as MediaWiki Mail? Most Wikipedia users probably don't know what MediaWiki is. I suggest it be changed to

Re: [Wikitech-l] Email notification sender

2012-01-03 Thread Thomas Dalton
On 3 January 2012 20:32, Strainu strain...@gmail.com wrote: I wouldn't be so fast in leaving only the sitename as sender name - a mail from Wikipedia would raise my (manual) spam alarms, just like emails from the Federal Bureau of Investigations or from [X] Bank. Why is Wikipedia more

Re: [Wikitech-l] Email notification sender

2012-01-03 Thread Strainu
2012/1/3 Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com: Why is Wikipedia more suspicious than Wikipedia mail? I really don't know, it's just how some people that I know (including myself) react. For instance, I recently fell for a spam email disguised as a Linkedin message. The sender was John Doe via

Re: [Wikitech-l] Email notification sender

2012-01-03 Thread Thomas Gries
Am 03.01.2012 19:56, schrieb Brion Vibber: http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/phase3/includes/UserMailer.php?revision=104208view=markup line 195 $headers['X-Mailer']='MediaWiki mailer'; I don't see any reason to change that; X-Mailer is a low-level header which says things like

Re: [Wikitech-l] Email notification sender

2012-01-03 Thread Brion Vibber
On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 1:43 PM, Thomas Gries m...@tgries.de wrote: Perhaps the original requester wanted a change of the sender addresses in LocalSettings.php: $wgEmergencyContact = sender e-mail; $wgPasswordSender = sender e-mail; Yes we've already established this; that's the only

Re: [Wikitech-l] Email notification sender

2012-01-03 Thread Erik Moeller
On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 12:32 PM, Strainu strain...@gmail.com wrote: I wouldn't be so fast in leaving only the sitename as sender name - a mail from Wikipedia would raise my (manual) spam alarms, just like emails from the Federal Bureau of Investigations or from [X] Bank. Facebook's email

Re: [Wikitech-l] Email notification sender

2012-01-03 Thread Thomas Morton
Ideally X-Mailer (by convention) should be something like: *MediaWiki/{version}* In fact better would be *MediaWiki/{version} **PHP/{version} * But it probably doesn't matter too much :) Tom ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [Wikitech-l] Email notification sender

2012-01-03 Thread Strainu
2012/1/3 Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org: On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 12:32 PM, Strainu strain...@gmail.com wrote: I wouldn't be so fast in leaving only the sitename as sender name - a mail from Wikipedia would raise my (manual) spam alarms, just like emails from the Federal Bureau of

Re: [Wikitech-l] Email notification sender

2012-01-03 Thread Erik Moeller
On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 2:15 PM, Strainu strain...@gmail.com wrote: Linkedin's email messages come from different senders - by far the best solution. LinkedIn's notifications, honestly, look very messy to me. There are at least three different senders: 1) Real Name via LinkedIn, 2) LinkedIn

Re: [Wikitech-l] Email notification sender

2012-01-03 Thread Platonides
I really like the idea of [being able to] include the user performing the action in the From: A generic from is a bit useless when you receive hundreds of email from MediaWiki Mail (was w...@wikimedia.org before 2011-2-14), although CR being the worst abuser, could also get its own

Re: [Wikitech-l] Email notification sender

2012-01-03 Thread Jay Ashworth
Original Message - From: Strainu strain...@gmail.com To: Wikimedia developers wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Tuesday, January 3, 2012 3:32:09 PM Subject: Re: [Wikitech-l] Email notification sender 2012/1/3 Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org: On Sat, Dec 31, 2011 at 10:09 AM

Re: [Wikitech-l] Email notification sender

2012-01-01 Thread Mark A. Hershberger
Brion Vibber br...@pobox.com writes: How about just setting it to the sitename? 'Wikipedia', 'Wikinews', etc. As, uh, suggested already above. :) Because that is too much thinking while I'm on vacation? ;) Maarten Dammers, who originally filed the bug, has updated it now with your suggestion.

Re: [Wikitech-l] Email notification sender

2012-01-01 Thread K. Peachey
On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 5:13 PM, M. Williamson node...@gmail.com wrote: Correction: Wikipedia is the largest part of the projects. Why do people always want to pretend otherwise, or lament that fact? Never said otherwise, Huib just said Wikipedia was one of many WikiMedia projects.

[Wikitech-l] Email notification sender

2011-12-31 Thread Thomas Dalton
Why do email notifications from Wikipedia have the sender as MediaWiki Mail? Most Wikipedia users probably don't know what MediaWiki is. I suggest it be changed to Wikipedia or Wikipedia notifications or something like that. ___ Wikitech-l mailing list

Re: [Wikitech-l] Email notification sender

2011-12-31 Thread Huib Laurens
That we need to change in Wikimedia. Wikipedia is just a small part of the projects. 2011/12/31, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com: Why do email notifications from Wikipedia have the sender as MediaWiki Mail? Most Wikipedia users probably don't know what MediaWiki is. I suggest it be

Re: [Wikitech-l] Email notification sender

2011-12-31 Thread Thomas Dalton
On 31 December 2011 18:24, Huib Laurens sterke...@gmail.com wrote: That we need to change in Wikimedia. Wikipedia is just a small part of the projects. Notifications from Wikipedia should say Wikipedia, notifications from Wikinews should say Wikinews, etc..

Re: [Wikitech-l] Email notification sender

2011-12-31 Thread Benjamin Lees
Does MediaWiki Mail even make sense as the default for $wgPasswordSenderName? Is there a reason not to have it default to something with $wgSitename? ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [Wikitech-l] Email notification sender

2011-12-31 Thread Mark A. Hershberger
Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com writes: Why do email notifications from Wikipedia have the sender as MediaWiki Mail? Most Wikipedia users probably don't know what MediaWiki is. I suggest it be changed to Wikipedia or Wikipedia notifications or something like that. Please see

Re: [Wikitech-l] Email notification sender

2011-12-31 Thread Brion Vibber
On Sat, Dec 31, 2011 at 3:32 PM, Mark A. Hershberger mhershber...@wikimedia.org wrote: Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com writes: Why do email notifications from Wikipedia have the sender as MediaWiki Mail? Most Wikipedia users probably don't know what MediaWiki is. I suggest it be