Re: [Wikitech-l] Linux distros or Solaris for MediaWiki

2014-07-29 Thread Delirium
On 7/22/14, 3:09 PM, Mark A. Hershberger wrote: Max Semenik maxsem.w...@gmail.com writes: However all packages I know of (Debian flavors and not) split MW directory and put its parts into different places, trying to follow the Filesystem Hierarchy Standard. The result is [...] outright

Re: [Wikitech-l] Linux distros or Solaris for MediaWiki

2014-07-29 Thread Dmitriy Sintsov
At previous job, I've installed and maintained a wiki farm with multiple sites, interwiki setup and caching while another emploee installed MediaWiki from repository via single command and told to former boss that my work is very simple. I hate anything web-related in packages because of that.

Re: [Wikitech-l] Linux distros or Solaris for MediaWiki

2014-07-22 Thread Mark A. Hershberger
Max Semenik maxsem.w...@gmail.com writes: The main issue with packages is not even the version. It is kinda expected that distros don't have bleeding-edge packages, and 1.19 will be supported for almost a year from now. This was done with Debian specifically in mind. However all packages I

Re: [Wikitech-l] Linux distros or Solaris for MediaWiki

2014-07-21 Thread Pine W
Thanks. Unfortunately I will not be attending Wikimania or the hackathon. I wish I was. I would like to go. Pine On Sun, Jul 20, 2014 at 2:24 PM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: Where does it say it's unsupported? Some older page, talking about the distro version? I routinely use MW

Re: [Wikitech-l] Linux distros or Solaris for MediaWiki

2014-07-21 Thread Pine W
David: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Running_MediaWiki_on_Ubuntu That warning could be clearer about what it's referring to. On Sun, Jul 20, 2014 at 2:24 PM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: Where does it say it's unsupported? Some older page, talking about the distro version? I

Re: [Wikitech-l] Linux distros or Solaris for MediaWiki

2014-07-21 Thread Dmitriy Sintsov
Yes, please do not install MediaWiki via apt-get or aptitude. It will be old version with suboptimal settings. It is much better to install it manually. Speaking of Ubuntu, I think WMF is running a lot of Ubuntu / Debian systems. So, Ubuntu should be the best way of running MediaWiki. Dmitriy

Re: [Wikitech-l] Linux distros or Solaris for MediaWiki

2014-07-21 Thread Max Semenik
The main issue with packages is not even the version. It is kinda expected that distros don't have bleeding-edge packages, and 1.19 will be supported for almost a year from now. However all packages I know of (Debian flavors and not) split MW directory and put its parts into different places,

[Wikitech-l] Linux distros or Solaris for MediaWiki

2014-07-20 Thread Pine W
I have experience with Ubuntu but MediaWiki says that Ubuntu is unsupported. Which Linux distro would people recommend, and which distro of Linux does WMF use for MediaWiki? I am thinking about installing Debian but am open to any suggestions that have a friendly UX. Solaris is an option also.

Re: [Wikitech-l] Linux distros or Solaris for MediaWiki

2014-07-20 Thread Michał Łazowik
Hey, Wiadomość napisana przez Pine W wiki.p...@gmail.com w dniu 20 lip 2014, o godz. 21:55: I have experience with Ubuntu but MediaWiki says that Ubuntu is unsupported. Where, when, why what? I mean, from where do you have that info? Which Linux distro would people recommend, and which

Re: [Wikitech-l] Linux distros or Solaris for MediaWiki

2014-07-20 Thread Pine W
From https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Running_MediaWiki_on_Ubuntu *Warning:* MediaWiki can also be installed using aptitude. The Ubuntu MediaWiki package is unsupported and usually outdated. We do not recommend you use it. I suppose that could refer only to aptitude and not Ubuntu support

Re: [Wikitech-l] Linux distros or Solaris for MediaWiki

2014-07-20 Thread Christopher Wilson
I think that's referring to the package distributed by Ubuntu/Canonical, not support for running the app if you install it via some other method. -Chris On Sun, Jul 20, 2014 at 1:10 PM, Pine W wiki.p...@gmail.com wrote: From https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Running_MediaWiki_on_Ubuntu

Re: [Wikitech-l] Linux distros or Solaris for MediaWiki

2014-07-20 Thread John
Actually the WMF servers run Ubuntu, and it refers to the apt-get install mediawiki method as being unsupported On Sun, Jul 20, 2014 at 4:16 PM, Christopher Wilson gwsuper...@gmail.com wrote: I think that's referring to the package distributed by Ubuntu/Canonical, not support for running the

Re: [Wikitech-l] Linux distros or Solaris for MediaWiki

2014-07-20 Thread Michał Łazowik
Wiadomość napisana przez Pine W wiki.p...@gmail.com w dniu 20 lip 2014, o godz. 22:10: I suppose that could refer only to aptitude and not Ubuntu support as a whole. Yep. That means that the package available on Ubuntu is not supported. If I'm not mistaken you're preparing for some MediaWiki

Re: [Wikitech-l] Linux distros or Solaris for MediaWiki

2014-07-20 Thread Michał Łazowik
Wiadomość napisana przez Michał Łazowik mlazo...@me.com w dniu 20 lip 2014, o godz. 22:22: MediaWiki-Vagrant is a configuration for Vagrant that gives you MediaWiki development focused environment with debug info and other handy things enabled by default. Forgot the link, sorry:

Re: [Wikitech-l] Linux distros or Solaris for MediaWiki

2014-07-20 Thread Bartosz Dziewoński
On Sun, 20 Jul 2014 22:10:09 +0200, Pine W wiki.p...@gmail.com wrote: From https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Running_MediaWiki_on_Ubuntu *Warning:* MediaWiki can also be installed using aptitude. The Ubuntu MediaWiki package is unsupported and usually outdated. We do not recommend you

Re: [Wikitech-l] Linux distros or Solaris for MediaWiki

2014-07-20 Thread Brian Wolff
Yes that's correct. The Ubuntu package isn't officially supported. This is more a historical thing than anything else, as a couple years back one of the packages (I think it was redhat's) decided that moving the skins directory (This was back before RL, so that included all the css and JS) to a

Re: [Wikitech-l] Linux distros or Solaris for MediaWiki

2014-07-20 Thread Max Semenik
Yep. It says that the broken .deb package made by Debian guys is not supported by us developeers, not that MW doesn't support Ubuntu or vice versa. Just stick with tarballs or Git checkouts and you'll be fine. On Sun, Jul 20, 2014 at 1:10 PM, Pine W wiki.p...@gmail.com wrote: From

Re: [Wikitech-l] Linux distros or Solaris for MediaWiki

2014-07-20 Thread David Gerard
Where does it say it's unsupported? Some older page, talking about the distro version? I routinely use MW from tarball on Ubuntu and it's fine. https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Debian/Ubuntu I'd personally recommend you install the prerequisites then use the MediaWiki tarball, but the distro 1.19