== The problem ==
MediaWiki has a huge UI standardisation problem. We use different
libraries, different css styles and class names, some of which do the
same thing.
Recently the teams working on Flow and MobileFrontend noticed they
were doing various things in a similar fashion. We were both
Jon, I know you mean well, and that you are passionate about solving this
problem, but I do not believe this is the right approach. I've communicated
that in another thread with a smaller group, and you did not respond to me.
Now you are changing key details in the proposal, but the extension code
Trevor,
That email you quote was about totally different code and a proposal
to put it into Mantle and is off topic for this discussion.\T
Trevor, please grab me in real life, so we can quell this
misunderstanding asap, I feel for whatever reason I am not effectively
communicating to you and
This whole thread seems a bit silly to me. We put stuff that should be in
core into extensions all the time (for lots of different reasons). For
example: WikiEditor, VisualEditor, Echo, MobileFrontend, JsonConfig, etc.
So why is Mantle such a bad idea? There's no consensus on implementing
Indeed, this thread is a bit silly.
If someone wants to make an extension that provides a feature, and someone
else wants to use it, there's nothing wrong with that. But why would such a
thing need proposing?
If the point of Mantle is only to provide a way to bring templates to the
client, then
On 7/3/14, 11:23 AM, Ryan Kaldari wrote:
This whole thread seems a bit silly to me. We put stuff that should be in
core into extensions all the time (for lots of different reasons). For
example: WikiEditor, VisualEditor, Echo, MobileFrontend, JsonConfig, etc.
I'd say that most of those are
On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 9:09 AM, Jon Robson jrob...@wikimedia.org wrote:
== The future ==
Mantle is only a short term measure. The hope is that all the code
that goes here will eventually go into core. We hold the code here to
exactly the same high standards that we hold core to, we are just
What you're saying, Trevor, makes sense, and I agree that we shouldn't have
a code purgatory. I won't presume to speak for Jon, but I imagine his
somewhat provocative presentation of Mantle is due, at least in part, to
frustration. About a year ago, the mobile web team was gung-ho to start
moving
Sounds like there are some issues here that may need untangling. I'm
pinging Erik. He's probably aware of this but I would like to hear his POV.
Mobile is high on WMF's priority stack and it's high on my list of personal
interests.
Pine
On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 1:46 PM, Ryan Kaldari
Sorry Erik, I missed your post in the discussion above and just saw it as I
was working my way back through the stack of emails. Anyway, I hope this is
on your radar.
Pine
On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 9:55 PM, Pine W wiki.p...@gmail.com wrote:
Sounds like there are some issues here that may need
I spoke with Jon in person and I think we have reached some sort of
understanding.
The main point I think should be made public - something I communicated to
Jon in person - is that me stepping away from VisualEditor for a couple of
months to work on UI standardization and a new skinning system
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