Re: [Wikitech-l] Voting disabled in bugzilla for some products

2013-07-30 Thread Andre Klapper
On Mon, 2013-07-29 at 10:38 +0200, Lydia Pintscher wrote: I'd like to keep them at least for the Wikidata-related bugs. The votes there are taken into account. That is great to hear and good to know! So I assume that you go to https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/query.cgi?query_format=advanced ,

Re: [Wikitech-l] Voting disabled in bugzilla for some products

2013-07-30 Thread Lydia Pintscher
On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 4:17 PM, Andre Klapper aklap...@wikimedia.org wrote: So I assume that you go to https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/query.cgi?query_format=advanced , select the components that you maintain and only include tickets that are in open state, retrieve the search results (list of

Re: [Wikitech-l] Voting disabled in bugzilla for some products

2013-07-29 Thread Chad
On Sun, Jul 28, 2013 at 6:14 PM, Sumana Harihareswara suma...@wikimedia.org wrote: John, thanks for the email. I know Andre Klapper has put figure out whether and how we want to deal with votes in Bugzilla on the long-term list of things people ought to do. See

Re: [Wikitech-l] Voting disabled in bugzilla for some products

2013-07-29 Thread Andre Klapper
Hi, On Mon, 2013-07-29 at 11:06 +1000, John Vandenberg wrote: I may be mistaken, but I thought voting was enabled for the product VisualEditor, and now it is not. At least for the last nine months, it has not been enabled for VisualEditor. Don't know if it ever was enabled, but I assume not.

Re: [Wikitech-l] Voting disabled in bugzilla for some products

2013-07-29 Thread Lydia Pintscher
On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 10:29 AM, Andre Klapper aklap...@wikimedia.org wrote: The main reason for not enabling voting everywhere is that votes need to be considered a source of input in the planning process. If votes do not influence decisions, users just get fooled. Yes. Absolutely agreed.

Re: [Wikitech-l] Voting disabled in bugzilla for some products

2013-07-29 Thread David Gerard
On 29 July 2013 09:38, Lydia Pintscher lydia.pintsc...@wikimedia.de wrote: On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 10:29 AM, Andre Klapper aklap...@wikimedia.org wrote: My current feeling is that votes in bug reports do not influence any decisions, so I personally support switching them off entirely. I'd

Re: [Wikitech-l] Voting disabled in bugzilla for some products

2013-07-29 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
David, for a previous discussion on renames see https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=34490 John, for Visualeditor https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49728 Nemo ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [Wikitech-l] Voting disabled in bugzilla for some products

2013-07-29 Thread Marc A. Pelletier
On 07/29/2013 04:38 AM, Lydia Pintscher wrote: Let's not have it just as a feel-good thing that isn't really influencing anything. Right now, it's the Bugzilla equivalent of the close doors button on most elevators. :-) -- Marc ___ Wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Voting disabled in bugzilla for some products

2013-07-29 Thread Tyler Romeo
On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 10:58 AM, Marc A. Pelletier m...@uberbox.orgwrote: Right now, it's the Bugzilla equivalent of the close doors button on most elevators. :-) Kind of off topic, but the close doors button on elevators work. They are mandated by law to be operational. Crosswalk buttons

Re: [Wikitech-l] Voting disabled in bugzilla for some products

2013-07-29 Thread C. Scott Ananian
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Placebo_button would be a better reference. It also contains a correct description of the function (or lack thereof) of the 'door close' button. ;) --scott -- (http://cscott.net) ___ Wikitech-l mailing list

Re: [Wikitech-l] Voting disabled in bugzilla for some products

2013-07-29 Thread Tim Starling
On 29/07/13 16:09, Chad wrote: I've always been in favor of getting rid of voting entirely since developers don't use it for judging anything. Tried to once before, but people seem to like using it for bookmarking or somesuch and I didn't feel like fighting about it. I appreciate having votes

Re: [Wikitech-l] Voting disabled in bugzilla for some products

2013-07-29 Thread Chad
On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 4:14 PM, Tim Starling tstarl...@wikimedia.orgwrote: On 29/07/13 16:09, Chad wrote: I've always been in favor of getting rid of voting entirely since developers don't use it for judging anything. Tried to once before, but people seem to like using it for

[Wikitech-l] Voting disabled in bugzilla for some products

2013-07-28 Thread John Vandenberg
I may be mistaken, but I thought voting was enabled for the product VisualEditor, and now it is not. Could someone confirm this? It is currently disabled for: Commons App Huggle openZIM Parsoid (Spam) Tool Labs tools VisualEditor Wiki Loves Monuments WikiLoves Monuments Mobile Wikimedia Labs

Re: [Wikitech-l] Voting disabled in bugzilla for some products

2013-07-28 Thread Sumana Harihareswara
John, thanks for the email. I know Andre Klapper has put figure out whether and how we want to deal with votes in Bugzilla on the long-term list of things people ought to do. See https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Bug_management/Task_list#Tasks_that_require_special_permissions and look at the third