Re: [Wikitech-l] Yandex?

2015-11-14 Thread Marcin Cieslak
On 2015-11-13, Runa Bhattacharjee wrote: > Specifics about this can be seen at: > > https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Content_translation/Machine_Translation/Yandex#Summary_of_terms_of_Yandex_agreement > Thanks! This is very helpful. The link was already in the FAQ (although a bit buried in the te

Re: [Wikitech-l] Yandex?

2015-11-13 Thread Zhou Zhou
> > Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2015 09:21:15 +0530 > From: Runa Bhattacharjee > To: Wikimedia developers > Subject: Re: [Wikitech-l] Yandex? > Message-ID: > < > cae7qtsq2l0ntmofdjuwbpmtnhj+r8etm6wqa+p+ft2+5w0o...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charse

Re: [Wikitech-l] Yandex?

2015-11-12 Thread Runa Bhattacharjee
On Fri, Nov 13, 2015 at 12:58 AM, Marcin Cieslak wrote: > > > (How) are we going to meet this requirement? > > Hello, Specifics about this can be seen at: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Content_translation/Machine_Translation/Yandex#Summary_of_terms_of_Yandex_agreement Thanks Runa -- Language

Re: [Wikitech-l] Yandex?

2015-11-12 Thread Marcin Cieslak
On 2015-11-11, Luis Villa wrote: > I haven't been directly involved in a while, but we were certainly not > paying Yandex last time I looked at the arrangement. Appropriate legal > steps were also taken to protect the licensing of the content, and > appropriate technical steps to protect PII of ed

Re: [Wikitech-l] Yandex?

2015-11-11 Thread Luis Villa
Sorry, fell back into lawyer mode - specifically, PII is "personally identifiable information" - in our case, usually IP addresses. A badly designed system could send that to the translation system, but we didn't do that - Yandex does not have access to it, so they know nothing about the editors

Re: [Wikitech-l] Yandex?

2015-11-10 Thread Luis Villa
I haven't been directly involved in a while, but we were certainly not paying Yandex last time I looked at the arrangement. Appropriate legal steps were also taken to protect the licensing of the content, and appropriate technical steps to protect PII of editors, among other things. FWIW- Luis On

Re: [Wikitech-l] Yandex?

2015-11-10 Thread C. Scott Ananian
According to my listening of that Metrics meeting, it does seem like WMF is going to have to pay Yandex for using its service. But as you say, that doesn't infect the actual translation text, which goes into wikipedia and extends the free content available for everyone. --scott On Tue, Nov 10, 2

Re: [Wikitech-l] Yandex?

2015-11-10 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 5:47 AM, Legoktm wrote: > On 07/02/2015 12:55 PM, Legoktm wrote: >> On 07/01/2015 06:50 PM, Ricordisamoa wrote: >>> Il 02/07/2015 03:28, Legoktm ha scritto: I noticed: "Yandex coming up soon!" under ContentTranslation. Are there more details about what this means?

Re: [Wikitech-l] Yandex?

2015-11-10 Thread C. Scott Ananian
Transcribing from the last Metrics Meeting ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePV-7nhO-z0 around minute 54, and then more specifically in response to a question at 55:35): "We have apertium running... we are going to add the yandex service... we found out that different languages have different tran

Re: [Wikitech-l] Yandex?

2015-11-10 Thread Legoktm
On 07/02/2015 12:55 PM, Legoktm wrote: > On 07/01/2015 06:50 PM, Ricordisamoa wrote: >> Il 02/07/2015 03:28, Legoktm ha scritto: >>> I noticed: "Yandex coming up soon!" under ContentTranslation. Are there >>> more details about what this means? >> >> https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T89844 I think

Re: [Wikitech-l] Yandex?

2015-07-02 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
FYI https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_projects has a list; it means the wikis themselves (MediaWiki), not stuff around them. Nemo ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-

Re: [Wikitech-l] Yandex?

2015-07-02 Thread Ricordisamoa
Il 02/07/2015 21:55, Legoktm ha scritto: I am also interested in the answer to Nemo's question about whether this "is the first piece of proprietary software ever entering use in the Wikimedia projects land?" Also Qualtrics

Re: [Wikitech-l] Yandex?

2015-07-02 Thread Gergő Tisza
On Thu, Jul 2, 2015 at 12:55 PM, Legoktm wrote: > I am also interested in the answer to Nemo's question about whether this > "is the first piece of proprietary software ever entering use in the > Wikimedia projects land?" > Translatewiki has been using Yandex for a while (and used Google while i

Re: [Wikitech-l] Yandex?

2015-07-02 Thread Dan Garry
On 2 July 2015 at 12:55, Legoktm wrote: > I am also interested in the answer to Nemo's question about whether this > "is the first piece of proprietary software ever entering use in the > Wikimedia projects land?" > The iOS app uses system libraries provided by the iOS SDK for a variety of essen

Re: [Wikitech-l] Yandex?

2015-07-02 Thread David Gerard
On 2 July 2015 at 20:55, Legoktm wrote: > I am also interested in the answer to Nemo's question about whether this > "is the first piece of proprietary software ever entering use in the > Wikimedia projects land?" [not actually relevant, but since you ask ...] First would have been Java, back

Re: [Wikitech-l] Yandex?

2015-07-02 Thread Jackmcbarn
On Thu, Jul 2, 2015 at 3:55 PM, Legoktm wrote: > So it appears that ContentTranslation will be contacting a third-party, > closed source service? Are users going to be informed that this is the > case? What data is being sent? > > I am also interested in the answer to Nemo's question about whethe

Re: [Wikitech-l] Yandex?

2015-07-02 Thread Legoktm
On 07/01/2015 06:50 PM, Ricordisamoa wrote: > Il 02/07/2015 03:28, Legoktm ha scritto: >> I noticed: "Yandex coming up soon!" under ContentTranslation. Are there >> more details about what this means? > > https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T89844 I think Thanks for the pointer. After some more dig

Re: [Wikitech-l] Yandex?

2015-07-01 Thread Ricordisamoa
Il 02/07/2015 03:28, Legoktm ha scritto: On 07/01/2015 11:29 AM, Grace Gellerman wrote: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Scrum_of_scrums/2015-07-01 I noticed: "Yandex coming up soon!" under ContentTranslation. Are there more details about what this means? -- Legoktm https://phabricator.wikimed

[Wikitech-l] Yandex? (was: 2015-07-01 Scrum of Scrums notes)

2015-07-01 Thread Legoktm
On 07/01/2015 11:29 AM, Grace Gellerman wrote: > https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Scrum_of_scrums/2015-07-01 I noticed: "Yandex coming up soon!" under ContentTranslation. Are there more details about what this means? -- Legoktm ___ Wikitech-l mailing lis