Re: [Wikitech-l] Dropping the 'LATER' resolution in Bugzilla

2011-11-29 Thread Diederik van Liere
But then the bug should be NEW, nobody is checking for a bug that is marked LATER. I mentioned WORKSFORME because i suspect that some of the LATER bugs have been resolved by now. Diederik On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 1:59 PM, Chad innocentkil...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 1:45 PM,

Re: [Wikitech-l] Dropping the 'LATER' resolution in Bugzilla

2011-11-29 Thread Sumana Harihareswara
If you suspect that a bug has been fixed or is now invalid, then ask that question in the bug. But I agree that later really ought not to be a resolution (because really a bug marked LATER has not been resolved), but rather a status or prioritization. When I do searches across all the open bugs,

Re: [Wikitech-l] Dropping the 'LATER' resolution in Bugzilla

2011-11-29 Thread Chad
On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 2:17 PM, Sumana Harihareswara suma...@wikimedia.org wrote: If you suspect that a bug has been fixed or is now invalid, then ask that question in the bug. But I agree that later really ought not to be a resolution (because really a bug marked LATER has not been

Re: [Wikitech-l] Dropping the 'LATER' resolution in Bugzilla

2011-11-29 Thread Daniel Friesen
On Tue, 29 Nov 2011 10:45:23 -0800, Diederik van Liere dvanli...@gmail.com wrote: Hi folks, Currently, we have a 'LATER' resolution in Bugzilla, it contains 339 bug reports over all the products, see:

Re: [Wikitech-l] Dropping the 'LATER' resolution in Bugzilla

2011-11-29 Thread Merlijn van Deen
On 29 November 2011 19:45, Diederik van Liere dvanli...@gmail.com wrote: The question is, when is LATER? Technically, these bugs are not open and so nobody will ever see them again and that's how they will be forgotten. I would interpret 'LATER' as 'this bug should be re-evaluated after a

Re: [Wikitech-l] Dropping the 'LATER' resolution in Bugzilla

2011-11-29 Thread Thomas Dalton
On 29 November 2011 19:43, Daniel Friesen li...@nadir-seen-fire.com wrote: This - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18082 Is not really WONTFIX, nor FIXED, nor WORKSFORME... and do you really want it marked as an open bug when it won't be implemented at all for ages until browsers

Re: [Wikitech-l] Dropping the 'LATER' resolution in Bugzilla

2011-11-29 Thread Chad
On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 2:53 PM, Merlijn van Deen valhall...@arctus.nl wrote: On 29 November 2011 19:45, Diederik van Liere dvanli...@gmail.com wrote: The question is, when is LATER? Technically, these bugs are not open and so nobody will ever see them again and that's how they will be

Re: [Wikitech-l] Dropping the 'LATER' resolution in Bugzilla

2011-11-29 Thread Diederik van Liere
I agree, currently the LATER acts as a blackhole and there is no structured process to re-evaluate these kind of bugs. I have done a lot of reading of these bugs and many were filed 3 to 5 years ago, I think it's better to say WONTFIX then to suggest that this is something that is going to be

Re: [Wikitech-l] Dropping the 'LATER' resolution in Bugzilla

2011-11-29 Thread Daniel Friesen
On Tue, 29 Nov 2011 11:56:53 -0800, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote: On 29 November 2011 19:43, Daniel Friesen li...@nadir-seen-fire.com wrote: This - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18082 Is not really WONTFIX, nor FIXED, nor WORKSFORME... and do you really

Re: [Wikitech-l] Dropping the 'LATER' resolution in Bugzilla

2011-11-29 Thread Jay Ashworth
- Original Message - From: Diederik van Liere dvanli...@gmail.com The question is, when is LATER? Technically, these bugs are not open and so nobody will ever see them again and that's how they will be forgotten. I would assume that LATER is, in a release after this one... and that

Re: [Wikitech-l] Dropping the 'LATER' resolution in Bugzilla

2011-11-29 Thread Dan Collins
I'm noticing that a lot of the RESO LATE bugs are requests for extensions or site requests which either: 1) We aren't currently installing that extension (Ok for these to be RESO LATE) 2) The original requester needs to provide further information Do we want that second category to be resolved

Re: [Wikitech-l] Dropping the 'LATER' resolution in Bugzilla

2011-11-29 Thread Jay Ashworth
- Original Message - From: Dan Collins en.wp.s...@gmail.com Do we want that second category to be resolved later? If so, we're going to be waiting a long time for people to come back with more details. Should bugs that are resolved later because the original requester or someone else

Re: [Wikitech-l] Dropping the 'LATER' resolution in Bugzilla

2011-11-29 Thread Brion Vibber
On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 4:33 PM, Jay Ashworth j...@baylink.com wrote: - Original Message - From: Dan Collins en.wp.s...@gmail.com Do we want that second category to be resolved later? If so, we're going to be waiting a long time for people to come back with more details. Should

Re: [Wikitech-l] Dropping the 'LATER' resolution in Bugzilla

2011-11-29 Thread Mark A. Hershberger
Sumana Harihareswara suma...@wikimedia.org writes: Mark H., what do you think? Since I'm usually thinking about priority of bugs, I'm not sure why I would resolve a bug LATER rather setting its priority to LOWEST. But since I tend not to look at RESOLVED bugs or anything below NORMAL priority,

Re: [Wikitech-l] Dropping the 'LATER' resolution in Bugzilla

2011-11-29 Thread Mark A. Hershberger
Jay Ashworth j...@baylink.com writes: Do we have a Target release in our BZ? We've begun using Milestones in Bugzilla for this. One of the milestones is Mysterious Future. I think you should feel free to use that instead of LATER. Mark. ___

Re: [Wikitech-l] Dropping the 'LATER' resolution in Bugzilla

2011-11-29 Thread Jay Ashworth
- Original Message - From: Mark A. Hershberger mhershber...@wikimedia.org Jay Ashworth j...@baylink.com writes: Do we have a Target release in our BZ? We've begun using Milestones in Bugzilla for this. One of the milestones is Mysterious Future. I think you should feel free to use

Re: [Wikitech-l] Dropping the 'LATER' resolution in Bugzilla

2011-11-29 Thread Diederik van Liere
So today I have read about a 100 LATER marked bug reports and I do think we need the LATER resolution, but I would suggest to limit it's use case to only those bugs were an external constituent, either the Wikipedia community or a third-party software developer, needs to take an action and