Re: [Wikitech-l] Upgrading mailman (the software behind mailing lists)

2020-08-24 Thread Amir Sarabadani
I think it's because mailman3 doesn't need something like listadmin anymore. It provides a REST API that you can use to achieve the same functionality in a couple lines of code: https://docs.mailman3.org/projects/mailman/en/latest/src/mailman/rest/docs/rest.html HTH On Mon, Aug 24, 2020 at 1:30

Re: [Wikitech-l] Upgrading mailman (the software behind mailing lists)

2020-08-23 Thread Michael Schönitzer
A sad side effect of the upgrade will probably be that listadmin[1] will break. Does anyone know an alternative? [1] https://sourceforge.net/projects/listadmin/ Am So., 9. Aug. 2020 um 23:13 Uhr schrieb David Gerard : > In fairness, pipermail archives were always a bit shaky - on the >

Re: [Wikitech-l] Upgrading mailman (the software behind mailing lists)

2020-08-09 Thread David Gerard
In fairness, pipermail archives were always a bit shaky - on the occasions when an email's had to be removed from the archive previously, it's messed up the URLs of all the other emails in that month's archive. But let's say it would be *nice* not to mess up the public archive URLs if feasible

Re: [Wikitech-l] Upgrading mailman (the software behind mailing lists)

2020-08-09 Thread Amir Sarabadani
hmm, Links of archived discussions in private mailing lists are not as important as the ones in public lists, we definitely should migrate public mailing lists first and after that we can migrate any private mailing list that is okay with their links being broken (and then we remove those old

Re: [Wikitech-l] Upgrading mailman (the software behind mailing lists)

2020-08-09 Thread AntiCompositeNumber
I would agree that it would be a good solution, except for the next bullet in the same document: "The above mechanism won’t work for private archives since the archives are gated with password and without a Mailman 2 list, there is no password. You can however import them to Mailman 3." Since

Re: [Wikitech-l] Upgrading mailman (the software behind mailing lists)

2020-08-09 Thread Amir Sarabadani
According to the upgrade guide ( https://docs.mailman3.org/en/latest/migration.html#other-considerations): "If you need your URLs for Mailman 2 archives to work, you can keep the HTML files generated for the archives around and your web server configuration for the archives intact (possibly with a

Re: [Wikitech-l] Upgrading mailman (the software behind mailing lists)

2020-08-09 Thread David Gerard
yes - those links are thrown around as if they're archival. How will the change affect links to past messages? Will someone need to construct a redirect farm? - d. On Sun, 9 Aug 2020 at 19:54, AntiCompositeNumber wrote: > > Glad to hear this is moving forward! > > Keeping archive links

Re: [Wikitech-l] Upgrading mailman (the software behind mailing lists)

2020-08-09 Thread AntiCompositeNumber
Glad to hear this is moving forward! Keeping archive links working, for both public and private lists, should be a requirement. There's a lot of institutional knowledge stored in the mailing list archives, and it's very important to keep that around. ACN On Sun, Aug 9, 2020 at 1:05 PM Zoran

Re: [Wikitech-l] Upgrading mailman (the software behind mailing lists)

2020-08-09 Thread Zoran Dori
Hello, this looks great. Especially because of "mobile friendly" function. Best regards, Zoran Dori Volunteer on Wikimedia Foundation's projects E: zorandori4...@gmail.com W: kizule.tk I: iamkizule ___ Wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Upgrading mailman (the software behind mailing lists)

2020-08-09 Thread Kaartic Sivaraam
Hi, On 9 ஆகஸ்ட், 2020 2:25:30 AM IST, Amir Sarabadani wrote: >Hey, >Mailman, the software that powers our mailing lists, is extremely old, >by >looking at https://lists.wikimedia.org/ you can guess how old it is. > >I would really like to upgrade it to mailman 3 which has these >benefits: >*

Re: [Wikitech-l] Upgrading mailman (the software behind mailing lists)

2020-08-09 Thread ZI Jony
Great! It's really good and useful. On Sun, Aug 9, 2020, 7:41 AM Denny Vrandečić wrote: > Thank you so much! > > On Sat, Aug 8, 2020, 13:56 Amir Sarabadani wrote: > > > Hey, > > Mailman, the software that powers our mailing lists, is extremely old, by > > looking at

Re: [Wikitech-l] Upgrading mailman (the software behind mailing lists)

2020-08-08 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Thank you so much! On Sat, Aug 8, 2020, 13:56 Amir Sarabadani wrote: > Hey, > Mailman, the software that powers our mailing lists, is extremely old, by > looking at https://lists.wikimedia.org/ you can guess how old it is. > > I would really like to upgrade it to mailman 3 which has these