Re: [Wikitech-l] Upgrading mailman (the software behind mailing lists)

Glad to hear this is moving forward! Keeping archive links working, for both public and private lists, should be a requirement. There's a lot of institutional knowledge stored in the mailing list archives, and it's very important to keep that around. ACN On Sun, Aug 9, 2020 at 1:05 PM Zoran

Re: [Wikitech-l] Upgrading mailman (the software behind mailing lists)

yes - those links are thrown around as if they're archival. How will the change affect links to past messages? Will someone need to construct a redirect farm? - d. On Sun, 9 Aug 2020 at 19:54, AntiCompositeNumber wrote: > > Glad to hear this is moving forward! > > Keeping archive links

Re: [Wikitech-l] Upgrading mailman (the software behind mailing lists)

According to the upgrade guide ( https://docs.mailman3.org/en/latest/migration.html#other-considerations): "If you need your URLs for Mailman 2 archives to work, you can keep the HTML files generated for the archives around and your web server configuration for the archives intact (possibly with a

Re: [Wikitech-l] Upgrading mailman (the software behind mailing lists)

I would agree that it would be a good solution, except for the next bullet in the same document: "The above mechanism won’t work for private archives since the archives are gated with password and without a Mailman 2 list, there is no password. You can however import them to Mailman 3." Since

Re: [Wikitech-l] Upgrading mailman (the software behind mailing lists)

hmm, Links of archived discussions in private mailing lists are not as important as the ones in public lists, we definitely should migrate public mailing lists first and after that we can migrate any private mailing list that is okay with their links being broken (and then we remove those old

Re: [Wikitech-l] Upgrading mailman (the software behind mailing lists)

In fairness, pipermail archives were always a bit shaky - on the occasions when an email's had to be removed from the archive previously, it's messed up the URLs of all the other emails in that month's archive. But let's say it would be *nice* not to mess up the public archive URLs if feasible

Re: [Wikitech-l] Upgrading mailman (the software behind mailing lists)

Great! It's really good and useful. On Sun, Aug 9, 2020, 7:41 AM Denny Vrandečić wrote: > Thank you so much! > > On Sat, Aug 8, 2020, 13:56 Amir Sarabadani wrote: > > > Hey, > > Mailman, the software that powers our mailing lists, is extremely old, by > > looking at

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Upgrading mailman (the software behind mailing lists)

Hello, this looks great. Especially because of "mobile friendly" function. Best regards, Zoran Dori Volunteer on Wikimedia Foundation's projects E: zorandori4...@gmail.com W: kizule.tk I: iamkizule ___ Wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Ethical question regarding some code

On Sat, Aug 8, 2020 at 7:43 PM Amir Sarabadani wrote: > * By closed source, I don't mean it will be only accessible to me, It's > already accessible by another CU and one WMF staff, and I would gladly > share the code with anyone who has signed NDA and they are of course more > than welcome to

Re: [Wikitech-l] Ethical question regarding some code

FWIW, the movement strategy included a recommendation* for having a technology ethics review process [1]; maybe this is a good opportunity to experiment with creating a precursory, unofficial version of that - make a wiki page for the sock puppet detection tool, and a proposal process for such

Re: [Wikitech-l] Upgrading mailman (the software behind mailing lists)

Hi, On 9 ஆகஸ்ட், 2020 2:25:30 AM IST, Amir Sarabadani wrote: >Hey, >Mailman, the software that powers our mailing lists, is extremely old, >by >looking at https://lists.wikimedia.org/ you can guess how old it is. > >I would really like to upgrade it to mailman 3 which has these >benefits: >*

Re: [Wikitech-l] Ethical question regarding some code

On Sun, Aug 9, 2020 at 2:18 AM Nathan wrote: > I don't see how any part of it constitutes creating biometric identifiers, > nor is it obvious to me how it must remove anonymity of users. > The GDPR for example defines biometric data as "personal data resulting from specific technical processing

Re: [Wikitech-l] Ethical question regarding some code

On Fri, Aug 7, 2020 at 6:39 PM Ryan Kaldari wrote: > Whatever danger is embodied in Amir's code, it's only a matter of time > before this danger is ubiquitous. And for the worst-case > scenario—governments using the technology to hunt down dissidents—I imagine > this is already happening. So

[Wikitech-l] Deployments for (short) week of 2020-08-10

Hi All tl;dr: Don't deploy on Thursday except for emergencies; the deployment calendar on Wikitech is up-to-date. Friday of next week (2020-08-14) is a wmf holiday. As such, Thursday should be treated as Friday for the purposes