On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 5:30 AM, Tim Starling tstarl...@wikimedia.org wrote:
On 21/01/11 12:46, Trevor Parscal wrote:
Joke or not, it's in there, and it's a violation of the GPL.
Did you try emailing the author and asking for a dual license?
I believe that people from Redhat have already
Roan Kattouw wrote:
2011/1/21 Platonides platoni...@gmail.com:
Conceptually, revision table shouldn't link to file_props. file_props
should be linked with image instead.
Maybe, but the current image/oldimage schema resembling cur/old is
horrible. For instance, there is no way to uniquely
The interest of wikisource project for a formal and standardyzed set of book
metadata (I presume from Dublin Core) into a database table is obviuos.
Some preliminary tests into it.source suggest that templates and Labeled
Section Transclusion extension could have a role as existing wikitext
On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 8:30 PM, Tim Starling tstarl...@wikimedia.org wrote:
Sure, but Trevor is claiming that he wrote it because of the license
issue. Since he has publically ranted three times:
http://article.gmane.org/gmane.science.linguistics.wikipedia.technical/50082
On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 4:15 PM, Anthony wikim...@inbox.org wrote:
No, the question is why the relevant code is totally unrelated.
Well, you might ask why we don't just (selectively) dump the page,
revision, and text tables instead of doing XML dumps -- it seems like
it would be much simpler --
On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 11:56 PM, Carl (CBM) cbm.wikipe...@gmail.com wrote:
The ideal solution for Wikipedia would be to move to a system in which
users with relatively modern browsers don't see images at all. There
is already a candidate for that system: MathJax. This has extensive
browser
On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 10:49 AM, Andrew Garrett agarr...@wikimedia.org wrote:
This is really unnecessary and unhelpful on a public mailing list. I
think we'd all be better off if snark like this were kept to private
channels.
Agreed. Or better yet, not said at all. Since we evidently no
So a few minutes ago we've had a conversation about this. Panos will set up a
public collaboration space within GRNET. A few developers will be (part-time)
working on this from February for a (so far) unspecified amount of time. The
consensus was that it would be good to start off with some
On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 7:21 AM, Aryeh Gregor
simetrical+wikil...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 10:49 AM, Andrew Garrett agarr...@wikimedia.org
wrote:
This is really unnecessary and unhelpful on a public mailing list. I
think we'd all be better off if snark like this were kept to
On 21/01/11 23:21, Aryeh Gregor wrote:
On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 10:49 AM, Andrew Garrett agarr...@wikimedia.org
wrote:
This is really unnecessary and unhelpful on a public mailing list. I
think we'd all be better off if snark like this were kept to private
channels.
Agreed. Or better yet,
On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 6:48 AM, Aryeh Gregor
simetrical+wikil...@gmail.com wrote:
Not to mention, the text table is immutable,
so creating and publishing text table dumps incrementally should be
trivial.
The problem there is deletion and oversight. The best solution if you
didn't have to
On 01/21/2011 08:21 AM, Chad wrote:
While I happen to think the licensing issue is rather bogus and
doesn't really affect us, I'm glad to see it resolved. It outperforms
our current solution and keeps the same behavior. Plus as a bonus,
the vertical line smushing is configurable so if we want
On 22/01/11 02:49, Aaron Schulz wrote:
This sounds like thinking out loud (not to say whether it's true or false).
It seems like there just has to be some better, more private, means to
discuss things like this...
Fair enough. Apologies to the list.
-- Tim Starling
On 01/21/2011 02:45 AM, Alex Brollo wrote:
The interest of wikisource project for a formal and standardyzed set of book
metadata (I presume from Dublin Core) into a database table is obviuos.
Some preliminary tests into it.source suggest that templates and Labeled
Section Transclusion
Hi everyone,
Earlier this week, I added Apekshit Sharma (appy) as a committer in
extensions-only for work on Article Highlight:
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Article_Highlight
Welcome appy!
Rob
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Hello,
As you may have noticed, Roan, Krinkle and me have started to more
tightly integrate image licensing within MediaWiki. Our aim is to
create a system where it should be easy to obtain the basic copyright
information of an image in a machine readable format, as well as
querying images
2011/1/21 Platonides platoni...@gmail.com:
If we wanted to map it to a page/revision format, it seems quite
straightforward. I'm missing something, right?
You're missing that migrating a live site (esp. Commons, with 8
million image rows and ~750k oldimage rows) from the old to the new
schema
On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 10:43 AM, Roan Kattouw roan.katt...@gmail.comwrote:
2011/1/21 Platonides platoni...@gmail.com:
If we wanted to map it to a page/revision format, it seems quite
straightforward. I'm missing something, right?
You're missing that migrating a live site (esp. Commons,
On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 6:07 AM, Jan Paul Posma jp.po...@gmail.com wrote:
So a few minutes ago we've had a conversation about this. Panos will set up
a public collaboration space within GRNET. A few developers will be
(part-time) working on this from February for a (so far) unspecified amount
Roan Kattouw wrote:
2011/1/21 Platonides platoni...@gmail.com:
If we wanted to map it to a page/revision format, it seems quite
straightforward. I'm missing something, right?
You're missing that migrating a live site (esp. Commons, with 8
million image rows and ~750k oldimage rows) from the
Hello,
The squid statistics report show us that some site are leaking our
bandwidth. How to tell? They have a huge number of images referral and
barely none for pages.
One example:
In December, channelsurfing.net has been seen as a referrer for:
- 1000 pages roughly
- 1 740 000 images
2011/1/21 Platonides platoni...@gmail.com:
Do we agree in the target db schema?
That's the important point.
We haven't thought about it in detail. But it would be a fairly large
change and require changes throughout the software, as well as
possibly elsewhere in the schema.
Migrating a large
On 21 January 2011 22:49, Ashar Voultoiz hashar+...@free.fr wrote:
Given the cost in bandwidth, hard drives, CPU, architecture ... I do
think we should find a solution to block thoses sites as much as
possible. Would it be possible at the squid level?
Given we actively endorse hotlinking
Ashar Voultoiz wrote:
The squid statistics report show us that some site are leaking our
bandwidth. How to tell? They have a huge number of images referral and
barely none for pages.
One example:
In December, channelsurfing.net has been seen as a referrer for:
- 1000 pages roughly
On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 5:02 PM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote:
You're talking about hotlinking, right? Looking at the page source of
channelsurfing.net, they're clearly hotlinking quite a bit. But as David
notes, we generally encourage our content to be spread and used.
I particularly
On 21 January 2011 23:31, George Herbert george.herb...@gmail.com wrote:
If they're linking to images we legitimately host and which meet our
image guidelines, are used in WP or other WMF projects, etc, then ...
Shrug. I didn't realize we were ok with hotlinking like that, but if
that's the
On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 6:32 PM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:
On 21 January 2011 23:31, George Herbert george.herb...@gmail.com wrote:
If they're linking to images we legitimately host and which meet our
image guidelines, are used in WP or other WMF projects, etc, then ...
Shrug. I
For the past month or so I've been working on an extension to manage
OpenStack (Nova), for use on the Wikimedia Foundation's upcoming
virtualization cluster:
http://ryandlane.com/blog/2011/01/02/building-a-test-and-development-infrastructure-using-openstack/
I've gotten to a point where I
Roan Kattouw wrote:
2011/1/21 Platonides platoni...@gmail.com:
Do we agree in the target db schema?
That's the important point.
We haven't thought about it in detail. But it would be a fairly large
change and require changes throughout the software, as well as
possibly elsewhere in the
I just wanted to add my $0.02 here... Ryan demo'ed this at the West
Coast Wiki Conference under the heading The site infrastructure that
*you* can edit.
He presented it as a way to bring volunteers back into ops, by giving
them the power to create and test complex configurations without
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