Re: [Wikitech-l] [Wikimedia-l] let's elect people to serve on the wikimedia engineering community team! (brainstorming)

2014-08-08 Thread Pine W
Quoting MZMcBride: ...the two issues (a rush to deploy features versus resource allocation for unwanted features), while sometimes intertwined, can certainly also be discrete. I agree with you in this point, and the Technical Committee is intended in part to improve both situations. Quoting

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Wikimedia-l] let's elect people to serve on the wikimedia engineering community team! (brainstorming)

2014-08-08 Thread Quim Gil
On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 8:34 AM, Pine W wiki.p...@gmail.com wrote: Quim, it seems to me that the methods used by Features have repeatedly produced troubled results over the years, so it's time for a different approach. Note that the approach of empowering Tech Ambassadors to explicitly

[Wikitech-l] Fine-tuning the Architecture RfC process

2014-08-08 Thread Quim Gil
Yesterday at the Wikimania Hackathon, Brion, Gabriel, Quim, Rachel, Robla, Tim, agreed on a series of little improvements to the Architecture RfC process in order to distribute the effort and move the driving force from the Engineering Community Team to the Architecture Committee. From now on,

Re: [Wikitech-l] Moving Vector and MonoBook to separate repositories and what it means for you

2014-08-08 Thread Antoine Musso
Le 07/08/2014 22:05, Erwin Dokter a écrit : I now have to submit two patches and hope they both get merged at the exact same time. If we had test coverage, we could ensure the skin change is merged after the required change in core. And for wmf/release branches, have the test enforce the

Re: [Wikitech-l] Fine-tuning the Architecture RfC process

2014-08-08 Thread Legoktm
On 8/8/14, 12:14 PM, Quim Gil wrote: From now on, Architecture RfC related tasks are handled in a Phabricator project: http://fab.wmflabs.org/project/board/72/ While the RfCs themselves will continue to be documented at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment , in Phabricator

Re: [Wikitech-l] Migrating test.wikipedia.org to HHVM

2014-08-08 Thread Ori Livneh
On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 6:53 PM, Ori Livneh o...@wikimedia.org wrote: On either Thursday or Friday of this week, Giuseppe Lavagetto (of the Wikimedia TechOps team) and I are planning to migrate https://test.wikipedia.org/ (testwiki) to HHVM. [snipped] {{done}} :)

Re: [Wikitech-l] Fine-tuning the Architecture RfC process

2014-08-08 Thread Bartosz Dziewoński
There is a Phabricator IRC bot, actually, but it was taken down because it was just repeating information from other bots. W dniu piątek, 8 sierpnia 2014 Legoktm legoktm.wikipe...@gmail.com napisał(a): On 8/8/14, 12:14 PM, Quim Gil wrote: From now on, Architecture RfC related tasks are

Re: [Wikitech-l] Fine-tuning the Architecture RfC process

2014-08-08 Thread Quim Gil
Collateral summary: a transition to Phabricator has started, and this project is just taking advantage of it. On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 1:14 PM, Legoktm legoktm.wikipe...@gmail.com wrote: Can we please not use Phabricator until it's an actual production service? We still don't have IRC

Re: [Wikitech-l] Moving Vector and MonoBook to separate repositories and what it means for you

2014-08-08 Thread Jon Robson
On 8 Aug 2014 04:23, Antoine Musso hashar+...@free.fr wrote: Le 07/08/2014 22:05, Erwin Dokter a écrit : I now have to submit two patches and hope they both get merged at the exact same time. The world we should be working towards is one where you'd only have to update the skin. Moving

Re: [Wikitech-l] Bikeshedding a good name for the api.php API

2014-08-08 Thread Jay Ashworth
- Original Message - From: Quim Gil q...@wikimedia.org On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 1:42 PM, Legoktm legoktm.wikipe...@gmail.com wrote: I like api.php too, given that we refer to the old one as query.php. You are in a keynote session at OSCON introducing... which API? Please

Re: [Wikitech-l] Fine-tuning the Architecture RfC process

2014-08-08 Thread Chad
It's unfortunate that it's being used for prod data. I never intended that when it was set up. So yeah +1 to waiting until we have a real prod service. -Chad On Aug 8, 2014 3:07 PM, Quim Gil q...@wikimedia.org wrote: Collateral summary: a transition to Phabricator has started, and this

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Engineering] Migrating test.wikipedia.org to HHVM

2014-08-08 Thread Ori Livneh
On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 4:15 PM, Giuseppe Lavagetto glavage...@wikimedia.org wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/08/14 14:36, Ori Livneh wrote: On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 6:53 PM, Ori Livneh o...@wikimedia.org mailto:o...@wikimedia.org wrote: On either Thursday or

Re: [Wikitech-l] Bikeshedding a good name for the api.php API

2014-08-08 Thread S Page
tl;dr: It already is the MediaWiki web API. A codename as well is fine. Searching mediawiki.org, web API is almost as popular as MediaWiki API, and some of the uses are correctly for extension APIs and Parsoid's API. So the MediaWiki web API is a descriptive name that requires minimal changes.

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Engineering] Migrating test.wikipedia.org to HHVM

2014-08-08 Thread Erik Moeller
This is fantastic progress, and really promising data. Huge kudos, guys :) Erik -- Erik Möller VP of Engineering and Product Development, Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [Wikitech-l] Fine-tuning the Architecture RfC process

2014-08-08 Thread svetlana
On Fri, 8 Aug 2014, at 22:14, Legoktm wrote: Just use Bugzilla, most RfCs are already using it to track issues anyways. -- Legoktm +1 I find some folks use Trello. I can't even darned add a comment there. Svetlana ___ Wikitech-l mailing list

Re: [Wikitech-l] Moving Vector and MonoBook to separate repositories and what it means for you

2014-08-08 Thread Bartosz Dziewoński
On Thu, 07 Aug 2014 20:28:59 +0200, Jon Robson jdlrob...@gmail.com wrote: Ideally the fallback skin should make it easier to download a default skin (https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Category:All_skins is a horrible page to land on). I'm currently trying to find the url for Vector E.g. A link to

Re: [Wikitech-l] Moving Vector and MonoBook to separate repositories and what it means for you

2014-08-08 Thread Bartosz Dziewoński
James HK has now submitted a patch to implement Composer support in the Vector skin [1] – somebody more familiar with Composer than me should probably review and merge it, and document how one can actually use this to install the skin. [1] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/152927/ --