Re: [Wikitech-l] Contributing as Wikimedia employees

2012-11-03 Thread Petr Bena
I meant it's not a problem if someone doesn't use official mail :) not that it is problem if someone does... if I was wmf employee I likely wouldn't try to appear as someone else or someone "more" to rest of community. But everyone has own preference here. It would be shame if people working for wm

Re: [Wikitech-l] Contributing as Wikimedia employees

2012-11-03 Thread Petr Bena
I think there is no need to make any walls between community and wmf. Main difference between volunteers and wmf employees is that they are paid for they work. I see no reason why someone should highlight that fact by using wmf e-mail or (WMF) in SUL (it appears as "showing off" to me more than any

Re: [Wikitech-l] What do you want to learn?

2012-10-29 Thread Petr Bena
I want to learn with puppet, but there is no testing repository to use. Every change needs to be approved by ops and that usually takes several weeks :/ or it used to. On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 2:16 AM, Sumana Harihareswara wrote: > TL;DR summary: reply to tell me what you want to learn so I can ge

Re: [Wikitech-l] Welcome, Brad Jorsch!

2012-10-29 Thread Petr Bena
Congrats Anomie, I just want to mention that as a founder of beta cluster I can also offer some help, though I didn't do so much as Antoinne there :) Petr P.S. we talked about labs on hackaton, if you remember On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 7:17 PM, Rob Lanphier wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I'm delighte

Re: [Wikitech-l] customizable IRC feed for bugzilla

2012-10-15 Thread Petr Bena
Ok I added both, but given that both aren't very active you probably won't see much activity from it :) On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 9:28 AM, Tomasz Finc wrote: > On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 11:30 PM, Petr Bena wrote: >> I can put it to #wikimedia-mobile, or you can do that :) I supp

Re: [Wikitech-l] customizable IRC feed for bugzilla

2012-10-14 Thread Petr Bena
wikimedia.org/wiki/Wm-bot), but there have been no >> commits there since June - is the code being maintained somewhere else now? >> >> Thanks! >> Arthur >> >> On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 7:04 PM, MZMcBride wrote: >> >>> Petr Bena wrote: >>>

Re: [Wikitech-l] customizable IRC feed for bugzilla

2012-10-11 Thread Petr Bena
and I forgot to mention that gerrit is using RSS as well, so you can actually create even a feed for your git repository, using this feature (in case software project you work on has own channel) On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 2:12 PM, Petr Bena wrote: > Hi folks, > > I implemented a new feat

[Wikitech-l] customizable IRC feed for bugzilla

2012-10-11 Thread Petr Bena
Hi folks, I implemented a new feature to wm-bot which is still being tested. It allows to parse and report RSS feeds into channel with custom format. There is going to be special RSS parser optimized for wikimedia bugzilla so that you should be able to insert any special "RSS items" such as a user

Re: [Wikitech-l] New experimental feature on IRC

2012-09-11 Thread Petr Bena
record channel joins and quiets in the logs for a user privacy > point of view (from what I could find and read), this seems to be > hitting on that area. (And yes, I know a user could run a anaylais of > their own on the log lines to find something quasi similar) > > On Tue, Se

[Wikitech-l] New experimental feature on IRC

2012-09-11 Thread Petr Bena
Hi, I just wanted to announce that based on request from one community member I created a new feature in wm-bot, which may appear to be unneeded on first sight, but when I was thinking of that, it's not really so stupid. It collects various informations about user activity in channel (in xml) and

Re: [Wikitech-l] Proposed new core feature: page with limited or no history

2012-08-28 Thread Petr Bena
It's not really that simple, the page should be accessible via API just as any other page, should be useable as any other page, etc. (include able using {{NoHistory:PageName}}). If we used the conception of Special page, it wouldn't work like this On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 3:59 PM, Jeroen De Dauw w

Re: [Wikitech-l] Proposed new core feature: page with limited or no history

2012-08-28 Thread Petr Bena
I don't mean to break the current design, rather to implement a new feature, these pages could live in a special namespace like [[NoHistory:PageName]] and it would be forbidden to move pages from / to this space so that existing articles with history could not be damaged in any way. Since it would

[Wikitech-l] Proposed new core feature: page with limited or no history

2012-08-28 Thread Petr Bena
Hi, There is a number of services running on our wikis, such as english wikipedia which are for example generating some information and frequently update certain page with these data, (statistics etc). That makes tons of revisions that will be never needed in future and which will be in database w

Re: [Wikitech-l] Some labs beta cluster milestones

2012-08-02 Thread Petr Bena
Good work, especially many thanks to Antoine (hashar), he did a lot of hard work On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 9:33 PM, Mark A. Hershberger wrote: > On 08/01/2012 03:05 PM, Chris McMahon wrote: >> The labs beta cluster is becoming an important part our software >> development environment. > > It makes m

Re: [Wikitech-l] Is the current system too difficult for volunteer developers?

2012-07-29 Thread Petr Bena
Yes, it is difficult It's hard to request new repository and have it created within short period of time. It's hard to navigate in gerrit It's hard to checkout mediawiki repository, because it's huge It's hard to find out how to commit / push (there is no guide how to setup git so that it works

[Wikitech-l] Documentation NS @ labsconsole wiki

2012-07-19 Thread Petr Bena
Hi, Given that we are going to use labsconsole wiki (which is later going to be renamed to wikitech) as a documentation base for various software and server documentation, we should propose a way how this new documentation base is going to be organized. I would prefer to create new namespace Docu

Re: [Wikitech-l] Gerrit downtime this Friday

2012-07-18 Thread Petr Bena
* LIKE * :) On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 6:38 PM, Chad wrote: > On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 12:34 PM, Andrew Garrett > wrote: >> On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 8:26 PM, Asher Feldman wrote: >> >>> Hi All, >>> >>> Ryan Lane and I are migrating gerrit's db to a server in eqiad (where the >>> gerrit app server is

Re: [Wikitech-l] Serious alternatives to Gerrit

2012-07-18 Thread Petr Bena
What about changing gerrit to our needs? It's open source, I suppose. On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 6:44 PM, Derric Atzrott wrote: >>I don't think you can decide to change away from gerrit >>without having an idea of what we want to use instead. >>As I understand it, we're on gerrit because it's the le

Re: [Wikitech-l] Hard tabs in vim: suffering and smiling

2012-07-16 Thread Petr Bena
VIM is already so smart that if someone made it even smarter, there is a danger that it could eventually become so intelligent that it would establish a droid army and attacked the whole planet. On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 8:18 PM, Daniel Friesen wrote: > Has no one bothered to try and program vim to

Re: [Wikitech-l] New branch "testing" in operations/mediawiki-config

2012-06-30 Thread Petr Bena
the configuration change there, before putting it to production. In case it is ok, then we could give it green on gerrit and merge it on production. On Sat, Jun 30, 2012 at 1:51 AM, Antoine Musso wrote: > Le 29/06/12 18:36, Petr Bena wrote: >> But that's a lot of hand work, if we

Re: [Wikitech-l] New branch "testing" in operations/mediawiki-config

2012-06-29 Thread Petr Bena
But that's a lot of hand work, if we really do this, we won't use gerrit at all, we just copy paste code from diffs by hand and insert it to some extra files. I would rather volunteer to sync branches rather than this creep work. On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 4:22 PM, Antoine Musso wrote: &

Re: [Wikitech-l] New branch "testing" in operations/mediawiki-config

2012-06-29 Thread Petr Bena
change of Korean wikisource, he submit a patch, we merge it to test and he can test it on labs. Both tests are running together. Once any of tests are over, we can merge them to master. This isn't possible with gerrit-review, or I don't know how On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 2:28 PM, Petr B

Re: [Wikitech-l] New branch "testing" in operations/mediawiki-config

2012-06-29 Thread Petr Bena
> On Jun 29, 2012, at 2:11 PM, Petr Bena wrote: > >> Current idea: >> >> someone submit a config change >> this change is merged to testing branch >> we git pull on labs >> people test if change works ok and submit review to gerrit >> we merge to maste

Re: [Wikitech-l] New branch "testing" in operations/mediawiki-config

2012-06-29 Thread Petr Bena
Current idea: someone submit a config change this change is merged to testing branch we git pull on labs people test if change works ok and submit review to gerrit we merge to master branch or reject it On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 2:07 PM, Petr Bena wrote: > Yes but that would proba

Re: [Wikitech-l] New branch "testing" in operations/mediawiki-config

2012-06-29 Thread Petr Bena
Yes but that would probably overwrite any previous tests On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 1:23 PM, Krinkle wrote: > On Jun 29, 2012, at 1:04 PM, Chad wrote: > >> On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 6:58 AM, Petr Bena wrote: >>> Can we create a new branch which would be speedily merged when cha

[Wikitech-l] New branch "testing" in operations/mediawiki-config

2012-06-29 Thread Petr Bena
Can we create a new branch which would be speedily merged when changes were done to it, so that we could check out on labs and apply the change there in order to test if patches submitted by devs works ok? Thanks to Antoine we use the same repository on beta project, but right now it's really hard

Re: [Wikitech-l] bot activity in #mediawiki on freenode

2012-06-27 Thread Petr Bena
d wrote: >> On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 10:19 AM, Petr Bena wrote: >>> This isn't discussion about git, but feeds we have in #mediawiki, feed >>> from git is definitely not the only one >>> >> >> Then please feel free to move it to a better name.

Re: [Wikitech-l] bot activity in #mediawiki on freenode

2012-06-25 Thread Petr Bena
Page name is fine, the first sentence isn't :P Done On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 4:43 PM, Chad wrote: > On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 10:19 AM, Petr Bena wrote: >> This isn't discussion about git, but feeds we have in #mediawiki, feed >> from git is definitely not the only on

Re: [Wikitech-l] bot activity in #mediawiki on freenode

2012-06-25 Thread Petr Bena
This isn't discussion about git, but feeds we have in #mediawiki, feed from git is definitely not the only one On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 3:36 PM, Chad wrote: > On Sat, Jun 23, 2012 at 4:48 PM, Platonides wrote: >> On 23/06/12 20:34, Petr Bena wrote: >>> Yes, the bots are

Re: [Wikitech-l] bot activity in #mediawiki on freenode

2012-06-23 Thread Petr Bena
Yes, the bots are useful for devs, that's the reason why we made them and there is a little point to argue about that. But they aren't useful for other users of #mediawiki especially users who seek help. IMHO #mediawiki should be used for development (bots are probably ok), #wikimedia-dev for wikim

Re: [Wikitech-l] Relations with freenode and wikimedia

2012-06-22 Thread Petr Bena
08 AM, Sébastien Santoro wrote: > On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 8:59 AM, Petr Bena wrote: >> In worst case our server can be delinked for that time. I believe that >> wikipedia is attacked way more often than IRC networks and we are able >> to resist that. (There are experts in staff

Re: [Wikitech-l] Relations with freenode and wikimedia

2012-06-22 Thread Petr Bena
Also, giving up and leave the hackers win (despite they didn't even start attacking us) is not really brave solution :-) On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 8:59 AM, Petr Bena wrote: > In worst case our server can be delinked for that time. I believe that > wikipedia is attacked way more oft

Re: [Wikitech-l] Relations with freenode and wikimedia

2012-06-21 Thread Petr Bena
In worst case our server can be delinked for that time. I believe that wikipedia is attacked way more often than IRC networks and we are able to resist that. (There are experts in staff, be sure) On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 8:35 AM, Sébastien Santoro wrote: > On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 3:33 AM, P

Re: [Wikitech-l] bot activity in #mediawiki on freenode

2012-06-21 Thread Petr Bena
I have never seen any such a channel for user support and developers which is getting flooded like this one. It's nearly unusable for people who are seeking help with mediawiki. If you really want to keep the bots in channel, we should create #mediawiki-help for people who are seeking that and don'

Re: [Wikitech-l] Relations with freenode and wikimedia

2012-06-21 Thread Petr Bena
Actually when I talked to freenode staff, there were quite interested in this. They don't have so many servers and wikimedia is well known project with established technical infrastructure. Even if they needed root, they could use puppet to set up the system to their needs and there are many folks

Re: [Wikitech-l] bot activity in #mediawiki on freenode

2012-06-21 Thread Petr Bena
I didn't say so, but still it's second most active bot On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 10:56 PM, K. Peachey wrote: > Wikibugs is more active than gerrit? I've been sitting in the irc > channel less than 30min (not the best user case) but that experience > tends to suggest otherwise. > > _

Re: [Wikitech-l] bot activity in #mediawiki on freenode

2012-06-21 Thread Petr Bena
wikibugs is one of most active bots there, if we are supposed to keep it, we should filter only bugs related to mediawiki at least On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 10:42 PM, K. Peachey wrote: > I would prefer to see wikibugs stay in #mw to be honest, There is > sometimes support stuff in there, as well as

Re: [Wikitech-l] bot activity in #mediawiki on freenode

2012-06-21 Thread Petr Bena
Or we could keep both codereview as it is and new -feed for all lightweight feed bots we had in #mediawiki because if we move the bot from -codereview the new feed will have way too many review reports On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 6:40 PM, Petr Bena wrote: > + -feed is shorter than -codereview,

Re: [Wikitech-l] bot activity in #mediawiki on freenode

2012-06-21 Thread Petr Bena
+ -feed is shorter than -codereview, we could just rename channel (move access list and settings) On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 6:39 PM, Petr Bena wrote: > That's my point as well > > On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 6:25 PM, Krenair wrote: >> If you're moving all bots, including wik

Re: [Wikitech-l] bot activity in #mediawiki on freenode

2012-06-21 Thread Petr Bena
4, Antoine Musso wrote: > >> Le 21/06/12 17:13, Petr Bena a écrit : >>> >>> That's what I said this week, we should make #mediawiki-feed where all >>> bots would live and leave #mediawiki for humans >> >> Please note we also have #mediawiki-codereview

Re: [Wikitech-l] bot activity in #mediawiki on freenode

2012-06-21 Thread Petr Bena
No worries new channel is already.logged so they could grab the feed from log. Anyway waiting is a good idea On Jun 21, 2012 6:11 PM, "Antoine Musso" wrote: > btb wrote: > > i'm hopeful this is the appropriate venue for this topic - i recently > > had occasion to visit #mediawiki on freenode, loo

Re: [Wikitech-l] bot activity in #mediawiki on freenode

2012-06-21 Thread Petr Bena
Ok, I was bold and created #mediawiki-feed let's configure it as we proposed. It will be +m and all bots will have voice. All devs who want +f in that channel so that they can configure flags and rules for bots, just ping me in #mediawiki If there was some problem we can always put it back, I move

Re: [Wikitech-l] bot activity in #mediawiki on freenode

2012-06-21 Thread Petr Bena
That's what I said this week, we should make #mediawiki-feed where all bots would live and leave #mediawiki for humans On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 5:01 PM, btb wrote: > hi- > > i'm hopeful this is the appropriate venue for this topic - i recently had > occasion to visit #mediawiki on freenode, lookin

Re: [Wikitech-l] Relations with freenode and wikimedia

2012-06-21 Thread Petr Bena
discussing option to donate server to freenode here :-) On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 2:24 PM, K. Peachey wrote: > On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 10:08 PM, Petr Bena wrote: >> But I am not talking about creating a new network, but providing some >> of our resources to freenode. They would lik

Re: [Wikitech-l] Relations with freenode and wikimedia

2012-06-21 Thread Petr Bena
I wasn't talking about wikimedia channels but wiki projects (non wikimedia) in relation with recent complaint from someone else (mediawiki dev who wanted to open a channel for his wiki on freenode) On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 2:55 PM, MZMcBride wrote: > Petr Bena wrote: >> On Thu, Jun

Re: [Wikitech-l] Relations with freenode and wikimedia

2012-06-21 Thread Petr Bena
21, 2012 at 09:35:56AM +0200, Petr Bena wrote: >> One developer recently complained about some freenode policies, >> specifically that wiki projects (wikipedia etc has some kind of >> exception) are no longer allowed to be hosted on freenode network, >> which is supposed

Re: [Wikitech-l] Relations with freenode and wikimedia

2012-06-21 Thread Petr Bena
But I am not talking about creating a new network, but providing some of our resources to freenode. They would likely operate and manage it without assistance from wmf ops. On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 2:04 PM, Faidon Liambotis wrote: > On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 09:35:56AM +0200, Petr Bena wr

Re: [Wikitech-l] Relations with freenode and wikimedia

2012-06-21 Thread Petr Bena
Hi, thanks for your response! First of all, I am not the guy who complained regarding the fact wikis are not accepted, I am just proposing another idea, but here are answers: On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 10:03 AM, Sébastien Santoro wrote: > Good morning, > > On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 9:35

[Wikitech-l] Relations with freenode and wikimedia

2012-06-21 Thread Petr Bena
Hi, One developer recently complained about some freenode policies, specifically that wiki projects (wikipedia etc has some kind of exception) are no longer allowed to be hosted on freenode network, which is supposed to host only opensource projects. It's fact that as the wikimedia project is beco

Re: [Wikitech-l] EtherEditor extension testing

2012-06-20 Thread Petr Bena
so bad it requires to connect to some port. My network is firewalled and I can't access any other port than 80 and 443 and some other (22 etc). I guess I am not the only one on firewalled network. Can you make the service be bound to apache so that it's on port 80 as well? On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at

Re: [Wikitech-l] Update on IPv6

2012-06-08 Thread Petr Bena
I don't think that Risker is wrong, it is true, that ipv6 was enabled on production almost with no warning and since it wasn't available on any test site before, neither on wmflabs it was almost impossible for developers to fix all issues in tools related to this. For example one of tools that brok

Re: [Wikitech-l] Merge of wikitech and labsconsole

2012-06-08 Thread Petr Bena
Indeed, why we need to separate it? We should separate docs for applications, for server configuration and such, categories are fine to do that. But there is no need to separate wmf projects and community projects. On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 3:05 AM, Ryan Lane wrote: >> Namespaces are usually a pain

Re: [Wikitech-l] Merge of wikitech and labsconsole

2012-06-07 Thread Petr Bena
I wanted to say "volunteer projects" which are affiliated with various wikimedia projects On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 5:20 PM, Petr Bena wrote: > There is a difference between wikimedia projects which are somehow > related to wikimedia projects, and foundation projects which

Re: [Wikitech-l] Merge of wikitech and labsconsole

2012-06-07 Thread Petr Bena
There is a difference between wikimedia projects which are somehow related to wikimedia projects, and foundation projects which are funded by foundation. But this difference is only about people and money, so why should we have a different wiki for that On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 5:19 PM, Petr Bena

Re: [Wikitech-l] Merge of wikitech and labsconsole

2012-06-07 Thread Petr Bena
I don't understand why? Wikitech is a perfect place for bots documentation as well, especially when it comes to large bots operated by many people, these needs to have documentation so that they can be overtaken by someone else in case the original person who launched bot, doesn't have a time to ma

Re: [Wikitech-l] Update on IPv6

2012-06-06 Thread Petr Bena
I am in central europe and there is almost no ipv6 connectivity, more far on east it's ever worse, so I doubt On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 at 5:07 PM, Maarten Dammers wrote: > Yes, good job guys! Now someone just needs to get Wikipedia.org (etc) added > to http://www.worldipv6launch.org/participants/?q=1

Re: [Wikitech-l] Merge of wikitech and labsconsole

2012-06-04 Thread Petr Bena
, Ryan Lane wrote: > On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 2:06 PM, Petr Bena wrote: >> I'd be happy to help, however wikitech is restricted wiki, so I guess >> I can't really help there, anyway I think it would be best if current >> wikitech was kept for historical purposes, a

Re: [Wikitech-l] Merge of wikitech and labsconsole

2012-06-04 Thread Petr Bena
I'd be happy to help, however wikitech is restricted wiki, so I guess I can't really help there, anyway I think it would be best if current wikitech was kept for historical purposes, and in case we forgot to move something you could find it in, wikitech-historical.wikimedia.org or similar url On M

[Wikitech-l] Merge of wikitech and labsconsole

2012-06-04 Thread Petr Bena
Hi, I heard that there was a plan to merge these wikis to one central wiki for technical documentation for various projects on wikimedia, what is the current status of that? Are we going to merge it to labsconsole, or to wikitech? There are some services atm running on labs and documentation is al

Re: [Wikitech-l] Update on IPv6

2012-06-02 Thread Petr Bena
Nevermind, I didn't check that the ipv6 was recently enabled there as well On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 10:08 AM, Petr Bena wrote: > Hi, > > It would be so easier to update the tools if we had ipv6 enabled on > wikimedia labs. Right now the development is complicated since there >

Re: [Wikitech-l] Update on IPv6

2012-06-02 Thread Petr Bena
Hi, It would be so easier to update the tools if we had ipv6 enabled on wikimedia labs. Right now the development is complicated since there is no test site. But I am happy to see that we are getting some progress in this. On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 11:12 PM, Erik Moeller wrote: > Hi all, > > June 6

Re: [Wikitech-l] Desktop upload tool

2012-05-28 Thread Petr Bena
I would name it Snuggle, so that it's in harmony with Huggle :) On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 5:55 PM, John wrote: > One thing I have done quite a bit of was Image modification. Everything > from watermark removal to coping to rotating. When Im on a spur of > watermark removal, it would be awesome if I

Re: [Wikitech-l] update bugzilla IRC notifications

2012-05-23 Thread Petr Bena
Make it report to #wikimedia-labs pls and #huggle On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 3:39 PM, Antoine Musso wrote: > Hello, > > Under 20%, I have decided to give the wikibugs IRC bot some love. > > That bot is a script processing bugzilla emails notification sent > publicly to the wikibugs-l mailing list. I

Re: [Wikitech-l] some people complained already about my recent security alerts for PHP, OpenOffice, LibreOffice...

2012-05-23 Thread Petr Bena
AFAIK most of production servers run ubuntu. Maybe there are some running Slakware, no idea. On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 2:35 PM, Chad wrote: > On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 7:51 AM, Petr Bena wrote: >> At some point I did appreciate some of your notifications, maybe you >> could continu

Re: [Wikitech-l] some people complained already about my recent security alerts for PHP, OpenOffice, LibreOffice...

2012-05-22 Thread Petr Bena
At some point I did appreciate some of your notifications, maybe you could continue sending these affecting php and linux in general (kernel + ubuntu and debian distro) On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 12:27 PM, John Du Hart wrote: > How dare they complain about you posting off topic material! > On May 21

Re: [Wikitech-l] OAuth

2012-04-30 Thread Petr Bena
I don't have much experiences in this area, but I really want to see this happen, so if there is anything I can help with (for example set up a test site on wikimedia labs where we could work on this), let me know. As soon as there is any public code I can take a look in that and try to participate

Re: [Wikitech-l] OAuth

2012-04-27 Thread Petr Bena
Some updates on this? Is WMF or someone going to work on this or it's waiting for someone to start? On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 3:19 PM, Petr Bena wrote: > Sorry, few typos: > > So, right now a question is if it's supposed to be implemented as > extension or in core, or both (i

Re: [Wikitech-l] New Engineering Community Group, headed by Sumana Harihareswara

2012-04-25 Thread Petr Bena
Hi all, Could we get some kind of information of what is this Engineering Community Group? So far I know it's headed by Sumana, which is nice but still I would like to know more :) On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 3:16 PM, Oren Bochman wrote: > Great news. > > Congratulations Sumana !! > > I think that t

Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikimedia Spam

2012-04-23 Thread Petr Bena
Yes it is not sent by any of wm servers probably some phishing or that On Apr 24, 2012 5:15 AM, wrote: > Here you go dudes, > > | Return-Path: > | X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0-r1197259-1907 (2011-11-03) on > | ps11007.dreamhostps.com > | X-Spam-Flag: YES > | X-Spam-Level: ***

Re: [Wikitech-l] Request for Comments: Cross site data access for Wikidata

2012-04-23 Thread Petr Bena
I mean, in simple words: Your idea: when the data on wikidata is changed the new content is pushed to all local wikis / somewhere My idea: local wikis retrieve data from wikidata db directly, no need to push anything on change On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 4:07 PM, Petr Bena wrote: > I think

Re: [Wikitech-l] Request for Comments: Cross site data access for Wikidata

2012-04-23 Thread Petr Bena
I think it would be much better if the local wikis where it is supposed to access this would have some sort of client extension which would allow them to render the content using the db of wikidata. That would be much simpler and faster On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 2:45 PM, Daniel Kinzler wrote: > Hi

Re: [Wikitech-l] CIA IRC bot kicked out

2012-04-23 Thread Petr Bena
I don't even think it's possible to use them, since they only support svn On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 2:36 PM, Antoine Musso wrote: > K. Peachey wrote: >> The user was probably op'ed and saw the messages, since CIA-* is >> globally +q (quietened) in the channel. > > That is it, I was +o. > > Is there

Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikimedia Spam

2012-04-23 Thread Petr Bena
: > On 23 April 2012 13:23, Petr Bena wrote: > >> Indeed, unless there are some spam links inside, for example if it was >> html mail, the reset token could be in fact a spam link leading to >> another site. (like http://somespam.com>http://en.wikiped... >> reset

Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikimedia Spam

2012-04-23 Thread Petr Bena
Indeed, unless there are some spam links inside, for example if it was html mail, the reset token could be in fact a spam link leading to another site. (like http://somespam.com>http://en.wikiped... reset token) On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 2:21 PM, K. Peachey wrote: > That looks like the standard pas

Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikimedia Spam

2012-04-23 Thread Petr Bena
Can you include the header of email? That could be much more of use to check if it was sent from a wikimedia server. On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 2:12 PM, Thomas Morton wrote: > Hey all, > > There have recently been a high number of complaints to OTRS about emails > recieved, supposedly from Wikipedia

Re: [Wikitech-l] CIA IRC bot kicked out

2012-04-23 Thread Petr Bena
That's weird there is no recent log containing the messages from CIA, it probably happened during some network outage where log bots disconnected, the bot was probably confused because of that. On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Antoine Musso wrote: > Hello, > > This morning the CIA-89 IRC bot sta

Re: [Wikitech-l] Standards for names of tables and $preferences for extensions

2012-04-19 Thread Petr Bena
That seems to be a lot of work which isn't needed. If we just prefixed the tables we wouldn't need to make a list of names which are already taken, because they would never conflict On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 10:48 AM, Benjamin Lees wrote: > On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 4:27 AM, Petr Bena

Re: [Wikitech-l] Standards for names of tables and $preferences for extensions

2012-04-19 Thread Petr Bena
I mean this would make development much faster. Now you have to look through hundreds of extensions to check if your new table isn't going to collide with some other. On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 10:26 AM, Petr Bena wrote: > It's possible someone make extension which contains Code

Re: [Wikitech-l] Standards for names of tables and $preferences for extensions

2012-04-19 Thread Petr Bena
It's possible someone make extension which contains Code in name, so I think it would be best to use the full name of extension On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 5:55 PM, Chad wrote: > On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 9:41 AM, Petr Bena wrote: >> I think we should create a page describing standard

[Wikitech-l] Standards for names of tables and $preferences for extensions

2012-04-18 Thread Petr Bena
I think we should create a page describing standards for names of keys in preferences and database objects for extensions. I propose to make it standard to prefix all keys in $preferences array with the name of extensions at least or some other words maybe (e_ExtensionName_Value ?). The same shoul

Re: [Wikitech-l] Too many random test wikis

2012-04-16 Thread Petr Bena
I made [[mediawiki:Test_wikis]] feel free to improve it and link to that page from everywhere possible where people might be looking for this On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 1:51 AM, Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote: > Just in case someone thinks otherwise, none of my doubts has been addressed. > The point is

Re: [Wikitech-l] Unified login vs. unified settings

2012-04-15 Thread Petr Bena
It would be better if user could override it on local wiki, or kept using global one, per project On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 5:43 PM, Andrew Garrett wrote: > I wrote it once upon a time (in about 2009). It was never reviewed, and I > could never find a sensible way to set up an interface for it. Not

Re: [Wikitech-l] Unified login vs. unified settings

2012-04-15 Thread Petr Bena
I could be easily preference of users to pick if they want to use global settings or override it, should be very easy to implement On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 10:50 AM, Martijn Hoekstra wrote: > On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 10:42 AM, Ole Palnatoke Andersen > wrote: >> Hi! >> >> I would love to be able to

Re: [Wikitech-l] Lua: return versus print

2012-04-13 Thread Petr Bena
Tim, is there any code publicly available for the new extension you talk about? I would like to see it, if it exist (and isn't anything secret). On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 2:12 PM, Petr Bena wrote: > I have no knowledge of Lua, but I don't see what is problem with print > here, th

Re: [Wikitech-l] Lua: return versus print

2012-04-13 Thread Petr Bena
I have no knowledge of Lua, but I don't see what is problem with print here, the function print is supposed to print output to output device in most of programming languages, just as in this case, so I don't understand why we should want to use return (which is supposed to return some data / pointe

Re: [Wikitech-l] Inactive sysops + improving security

2012-04-13 Thread Petr Bena
ys might be ..." sounds dangerous from someone who has access to servers :-) On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 9:06 AM, Ariel T. Glenn wrote: > Στις 13-04-2012, ημέρα Παρ, και ώρα 12:49 +1000, ο/η Andrew Garrett > έγραψε: >> On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 6:25 PM, Petr Bena wrote: >&

Re: [Wikitech-l] Inactive sysops + improving security

2012-04-12 Thread Petr Bena
Yes, that is what I just tried to propose in second email :-) I see I am not the only one who believe we need it On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 8:33 AM, John Vandenberg wrote: > On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 3:56 PM, Petr Bena wrote: >> That was just an example, interesting are of course even

Re: [Wikitech-l] Inactive sysops + improving security

2012-04-12 Thread Petr Bena
12:42 AM, Petr Bena wrote: >> Let me clarify: >> we are talking about accounts which are interesting for hackers such >> as these of stewards. > > Really?  You're clearly designing a system targeting inactive sysops > who disappear, but it doesnt seem suitable for

Re: [Wikitech-l] A balanced approach to 20% time

2012-04-12 Thread Petr Bena
It's nice to see that you are working on fixing this problem! Thanks On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 10:56 PM, Rob Lanphier wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I'm forking off from the "Development process doesn't work" thread to > highlight a message that Sumana sent the other day. > > Last year, Erik asked me to

Re: [Wikitech-l] Save to userspace

2012-04-12 Thread Petr Bena
12:03 PM, Petr Bena wrote: >> On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 5:47 PM, Chad wrote: >>> On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 11:15 AM, Petr Bena wrote: >>> If this is done properly with classes and ids, this should all be >>> customizable by via site CSS/JS. But a sane default UI is &

Re: [Wikitech-l] Save to userspace

2012-04-11 Thread Petr Bena
On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 5:47 PM, Chad wrote: > On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 11:15 AM, Petr Bena wrote: >> Ok, I managed to fix it, anyway there are still some issues: >> >> The autosave works after 2 minutes of inactivity. It should work >> anyway, in case your pc crash

Re: [Wikitech-l] Save to userspace

2012-04-11 Thread Petr Bena
pr 11, 2012 at 4:53 PM, Petr Bena wrote: > Yes it looks like some problem with the het setup, I will try to talk > to werdna regarding this. > > On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 4:47 PM, Helder wrote: >> On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 11:38, Petr Bena wrote: >>> It really needs some mor

Re: [Wikitech-l] Save to userspace

2012-04-11 Thread Petr Bena
Yes it looks like some problem with the het setup, I will try to talk to werdna regarding this. On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 4:47 PM, Helder wrote: > On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 11:38, Petr Bena wrote: >> It really needs some more work, I didn't find how to use it, it likely >> does

Re: [Wikitech-l] Save to userspace

2012-04-11 Thread Petr Bena
make it easier to deploy + I can't think of any wiki, even non wmf which couldn't benefit from this feature. On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 4:30 PM, Petr Bena wrote: > I deployed it to english wikipedia on deployment site for test: > http://en.wikipedia.beta.wmflabs.org/wiki/Special:Draf

Re: [Wikitech-l] Save to userspace

2012-04-11 Thread Petr Bena
e) On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 4:19 PM, Petr Bena wrote: > So you say person who created it finished the extension to deployment > ready status and just forgot to update the extension page for it :-) > > I will try to review it a bit then > > On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 12:28 PM, Happy Me

Re: [Wikitech-l] Save to userspace

2012-04-11 Thread Petr Bena
Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 5:18 AM, Petr Bena wrote: >> > I have no idea the page of extension say that it isn't stable >> > > https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1 > > --HM > ___ > Wikitech-l mai

Re: [Wikitech-l] Save to userspace

2012-04-11 Thread Petr Bena
I have no idea the page of extension say that it isn't stable On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 10:59 AM, Marcin Cieslak wrote: >>> Petr Bena wrote: >> It isn't stable, maybe someone should take over the work on it... If >> it was finished it would be nice to have feature

Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki 1.20wmf1 deployed to test2 & mediawiki.org

2012-04-11 Thread Petr Bena
This version of mediawiki is also present for some time on the deployment test site, where you can test various tools and check how is everything going to work on the wiki you are using now, for example the english wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.beta.wmflabs.org/wiki In case any wiki is not there

Re: [Wikitech-l] Save to userspace

2012-04-10 Thread Petr Bena
It isn't stable, maybe someone should take over the work on it... If it was finished it would be nice to have feature, if it was ever deployed of course. On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 1:22 PM, Helder wrote: > On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 07:35, Petr Bena wrote: >> Is there any existing exten

Re: [Wikitech-l] Save to userspace

2012-04-10 Thread Petr Bena
This extension isn't really the same as what I proposed, however it was presented years ago but never deployed. Is there any existing extension which can do auto save? On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 12:10 PM, Helder wrote: > On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 06:46, Seb35 wrote: >> Hi, >> >> There is already suc

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