Re: [Wikitech-l] Parsoid's progress

2015-01-20 Thread Arcane 21
Given what I've seen so far, it might be best to aim for a gradual reimplementation of Parsoid features to make most of them work without a need for Parsoid, with the eventual goal of severing the need for Parsoid completely if possible. At any rate, the less the parser has to outsource, the

Re: [Wikitech-l] Parsoid's progress

2015-01-19 Thread Arcane 21
If I might weigh in, I concur with MZMcBride. If Parsoid is absolutely needed regardless, that's one thing, but if a VE editing interface can be set up that doesn't need Parsoid, that would reduce dependence on third party software, make installation easier for all parties concerned, and not be

Re: [Wikitech-l] Status of the Purge extension

2014-12-28 Thread Arcane 21
I agree. Purging should either be integrated into the MW core or the extension needs to be made so anyone can use it whenever needed without needing JS. Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2014 09:38:26 -0800 From: jdlrob...@gmail.com To: wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikitech-l] Status of the

Re: [Wikitech-l] [BREAKING CHANGE] Plans to move Cite configuration from wikitext messages to CSS styles

2014-12-17 Thread Arcane 21
configuration from wikitext messages to CSS styles On 16 December 2014 at 21:07, Arcane 21 arc...@live.com wrote: At the risk of sounding stupid, does this mean other wikis will need a Parsoid instance to use this extension, or is this simply being tested in a Parsoid environment and it's

Re: [Wikitech-l] [BREAKING CHANGE] Plans to move Cite configuration from wikitext messages to CSS styles

2014-12-16 Thread Arcane 21
At the risk of sounding stupid, does this mean other wikis will need a Parsoid instance to use this extension, or is this simply being tested in a Parsoid environment and it's just using CSS instead of wikitext for rendering? If the former, not a fan of the idea at all. If the latter, awesome,

Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki Security and Maintenance Releases: 1.22.10 and 1.23.3

2014-08-28 Thread Arcane 21
Mostly a few bugfixes. To: mediawiki-annou...@lists.wikimedia.org; mediawik...@lists.wikimedia.org; mediawiki-enterpr...@lists.wikimedia.org; wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org; gla...@hallowelt.biz Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2014 15:10:09 +0200 From: matma@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Wikitech-l]

Re: [Wikitech-l] Deploying a centralized questionnaire to all pages of a specific Category.

2014-08-02 Thread Arcane 21
You might wish to try this: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Quiz Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2014 18:12:51 -0400 From: valing...@gmail.com To: wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: [Wikitech-l] Deploying a centralized questionnaire to all pages of a specific Category. Hello, I'm

Re: [Wikitech-l] new terms of use/paid contributions - do they apply to mediawiki

2014-06-16 Thread Arcane 21
In terms of applying the rule to things like articles written by someone for pay on behalf of someone else, that policy makes sense. As for code, I agree, that policy is counterproductive. To: wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2014 22:42:05 +0200 From: matma@gmail.com

Re: [Wikitech-l] Preventing MW from adding a page to watchlist

2014-06-10 Thread Arcane 21
This seems to be a MW bug. Ever since we updated our wiki to MW 1.23, this has been happening to lots of our users, myself included. Apparently, the option to add pages edited to the watchlist is checked by default, which probably needs to be disabled by default. Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2014

Re: [Wikitech-l] Preventing MW from adding a page to watchlist

2014-06-10 Thread Arcane 21
Thanks for the reminder. However, I think that not all those settings are not necessarily good, and here's why: * (bug 45020) Make preferences Add pages I create and files I upload to my watchlist and pages and files I edit true by default. This seems to be the default on Wikia, which I have

Re: [Wikitech-l] LiquidThreads - how do we kill it?

2014-06-06 Thread Arcane 21
As someone who likes LQT (autosigning and visible threading are excellent features) and wishes Flow was basically that, but better, I personally would hope Flow would attempt to incorporate as many advantages of LQT and provide a way to convert LQT threads to Flow format as smoothly as possible

Re: [Wikitech-l] LiquidThreads - how do we kill it?

2014-06-06 Thread Arcane 21
Going to have concur on this. Flow and VE would be great for attracting new users, but leaving the foundation of the community in the dust in favor of innovation strikes me as a bad idea. I support the idea of having the ability for the old methods of editing and talk pages to work when and

Re: [Wikitech-l] Text-to-speech extension?

2014-04-28 Thread Arcane 21
I'm not disabled myself, but I do see the benefits in such a venture, and assuming there is text-to-speech program with a MediaWiki friendly API (or at least can hook into MediaWiki fairly well) that could be used as a backend, I would think this would not only be possible, but a great idea.

Re: [Wikitech-l] Preview of the proposal for MediaWiki Homepage

2014-02-24 Thread Arcane 21
The picture at the top and most of the other icons need shrunk a little, and the page needs to fit more items together (it looks rather spaced out), but I do like the icon choices. It would also benefit from some more frames to separate the page sections IMO. Otherwise, looks great. :) From:

Re: [Wikitech-l] Drop support for PHP 5.3

2014-02-21 Thread Arcane 21
I support this. Adequate testing of 5.4 before abandonment of 5.3 would be a sensible prelude to any major decision concerning this matter. Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2014 16:37:24 -1000 From: canan...@wikimedia.org To: wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikitech-l] Drop support for PHP 5.3

Re: [Wikitech-l] Drop support for PHP 5.3

2014-02-20 Thread Arcane 21
Being a firm believer in the LTS model, I support David's take on this issue. Besides, they tend to be tested and reliable and have a longer support window by default, so it makes sense to support them in turn. From: dger...@gmail.com Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2014 01:04:39 + To:

Re: [Wikitech-l] Revamping interwiki prefixes

2014-01-16 Thread Arcane 21
If I might weigh in here, I don't see the harm in including all the WMF wikis onto the interwiki map. MediaWiki is intensely related to the WMF, so those links make logical sense and it does no harm to include them in my opinion. Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2014 22:40:37 -0500 From:

Re: [Wikitech-l] I'm back from Hacker School

2014-01-03 Thread Arcane 21
Welcome back, Sumana! From: suma...@wikimedia.org Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2014 22:48:22 -0500 To: wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: [Wikitech-l] I'm back from Hacker School Hi! As of yesterday, I'm back after my three-month sabbatical at Hacker School. I'm in catchup mode so I haven't yet

Re: [Wikitech-l] PHP new version(s) 5.5.7 and other versions. (upgrade, if you can)

2013-12-16 Thread Arcane 21
I've tried PHP 5.5.0, had to go back to PHP 4.4.9 due to issues with deleting and moving pages in MediaWiki. From: p858sn...@gmail.com Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2013 19:08:24 +1000 To: wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikitech-l] PHP new version(s) 5.5.7 and other versions. (upgrade,

Re: [Wikitech-l] PHP new version(s) 5.5.7 and other versions. (upgrade, if you can)

2013-12-16 Thread Arcane 21
, Arcane 21 arc...@live.com wrote: I've tried PHP 5.5.0, had to go back to PHP 4.4.9 due to issues with deleting and moving pages in MediaWiki. Is there a bug filed for this. If not please do so. MediaWiki should be compatible with newer PHP versions. *-- * *Tyler Romeo* Stevens

Re: [Wikitech-l] PHP new version(s) 5.5.7 and other versions. (upgrade, if you can)

2013-12-16 Thread Arcane 21
, if you can) Am 16.12.2013 13:08, schrieb Arcane 21: I've tried PHP 5.5.0, had to go back to PHP 4.4.9 due to issues with deleting and moving pages in MediaWiki. We need more details. Which version of MediaWiki do you use ? I never encountered any problems with the latest PHP versions 5.5.0

Re: [Wikitech-l] Applying nofollow only to external links added in revisions that are still unpatrolled

2013-11-18 Thread Arcane 21
I agree. While spammers are so pathetic they will do anything for page views, I have to admire (and detest) their ability to adapt in order to spread their nonsense. Anything that slows them down, even in the slightest degree, is something I support and recommend. Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2013

Re: [Wikitech-l] Updating the RELEASE-NOTES format for 1.22 and 1.23

2013-11-07 Thread Arcane 21
Seems like a reasonable approach to me. The old release notes were a little hard to follow, but your suggestion should make them more straightforward from now on. Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2013 22:21:52 -0500 From: m...@nichework.com To: wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: [Wikitech-l] Updating

Re: [Wikitech-l] Officially supported MediaWiki hosting service?

2013-10-02 Thread Arcane 21
I have a wiki there, and Orain is actually pretty decent as wiki farms go, though they could probably use more regular staff members. It is non profit for the forseeable future, though ads have been discussed only as in opt in option for those that want them. Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2013 21:33:35

Re: [Wikitech-l] Can we help Tor users make legitimate edits?

2013-09-27 Thread Arcane 21
I like this idea. Not every Tor user is vandal or troll, and assuming that all of them are by default is not assuming good faith. Some people are just really paranoid about their internet anonymity or live in restrictive countries (both of which I sympathize with), so this idea would let them

Re: [Wikitech-l] Advance notice: I'm taking a sabbatical October-December

2013-09-27 Thread Arcane 21
Good luck and have fun, Sumana! :) Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2013 20:31:37 -0400 From: suma...@wikimedia.org To: wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikitech-l] Advance notice: I'm taking a sabbatical October-December Well, off I go. I'm about to unsubscribe from this list for the

Re: [Wikitech-l] Can we help Tor users make legitimate edits?

2013-09-27 Thread Arcane 21
Hmm, I can see your point. Flagged Revs would be as much of hindrances on regular users as it would be on Tor users. I still think it should be permissable for Tor editors to submit legitimate edits in some way, but your points about the AGF policy and the purpose of Flagged Revs are duly

Re: [Wikitech-l] Improving anti-vandalism tools (twinkle, huggle etc) - suspicious edits queue

2013-09-26 Thread Arcane 21
That idea sounds like something already that could be done by the Flagged Revs extension. Given that many of those suspicious edits could be extremely subtle, like minor changes to mathematical equations and statistics, articles with lots of potential for those types of subtle vandal edits

[Wikitech-l] A message for all everyone on the Wikitech mailing list

2013-09-26 Thread Arcane 21
Sumana Hariharesw​ara recently provided me assistance with some code I wanted to write and invited me to join the wikitech mailing list, and she also suggested I share my response to her with the rest of the list subscribers, which I have reproduced (with some mild alterations) below: Thanks