Re: [Wikitech-l] GRAPH extension is now live everywhere!

2015-05-06 Thread Eugene Zelenko
Hi, Yuri!

I think will be reasonable to allow transclusion of graphs (or their
parts, for example without text labels) from Commons. This will allow
to share graphs between projects.

Eugene.

On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 5:51 AM, Yuri Astrakhan yastrak...@wikimedia.org wrote:
 Jon, graph is designed to support template parameter expansions, and I
 found most convenient to place each graph into a separate template page.

 David, re VE - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T93585

 On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 2:27 PM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:

 Is there a facility to use this in VE?

 On 6 May 2015 at 12:25, Jon Robson jdlrob...@gmail.com wrote:
  I think this is great but I'm still super super concerned about the
 support
  for Embedded directly with graph. I'm concerned as if used this way
 we
  risk making wikitext even more like code and more difficult for others to
  edit. Also having it inside the page makes it really difficult to
  extract/encourage remixing of the data...
 
  On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 4:32 AM, Brian Wolff bawo...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  On 5/5/15, Yuri Astrakhan yastrak...@wikimedia.org wrote:
   Starting today, editors can use *graph* tag to include complex
 graphs
  and
   maps inside articles.
  
   *Demo:* https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Graph/Demo
   *Vega's demo:*
  http://trifacta.github.io/vega/editor/?spec=scatter_matrix
   *Extension info:* https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Graph
   *Vega's docs:* https://github.com/trifacta/vega/wiki
   *Bug reports:* https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/ - project tag
 #graph
  
   Graph tag support template parameter expansion. There is also a
 Graphoid
   service to convert graphs into images. Currently, Graphoid is used in
  case
   the browser does not support modern JavaScript, but I plan to use it
 for
   all anonymous users - downloading large JS code needed to render
 graphs
  is
   significantly slower than showing an image.
  
   Potential future growth (developers needed!):
   * Documentation and better tutorials
   * Visualize as you type - show changes in graph while editing its code
   * Visual Editor's plugin
   * Animation 
 https://github.com/trifacta/vega/wiki/Interaction-Scenarios
  
  
   Project history: Exactly one year ago, Dan Andreescu (milimetric) and
 Jon
   Robson demoed Vega visualization grammar 
  https://trifacta.github.io/vega/
   usage in MediaWiki. The project stayed dormant for almost half a year,
   until Zero team decided it was a good solution to do on-wiki graphs.
 The
   project was rewritten, and gained many new features, such as template
   parameters. Yet, doing graphs just for Zero portal seemed silly. Wider
   audience meant that we now had to support older browsers, thus
 Graphoid
   service was born.
  
   This project could not have happened without the help from Dan
 Andreescu,
   Brion Vibber, Timo Tijhof, Chris Steipp, Max Semenik,  Marko Obrovac,
   Alexandros Kosiaris, Jon Robson, Gabriel Wicke, and others who have
  helped
   me develop,  test, instrument, and deploy Graph extension and Graphoid
   service. I also would like to thank the Vega team for making this
 amazing
   library.
  
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  Hmm cool.
 
  One of the interesting things, is you can use the API as a data
  source. For example, here is a pie graph of how images on commons
  needing categories are divided up
 
 
 https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Commons:Sandboxoldid=159978060
  (One could even make that more general and have a template, which
  given a cat name, would give a pie graph of how the subcategories are
  divided in terms of number).
 
  --bawolff
 
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Re: [Wikitech-l] Sharing mathematical and music notations across wikis

2014-03-21 Thread Eugene Zelenko
Hi, Micru!

On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 6:13 AM, David Cuenca dacu...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Eugene,
 you already can upload scores to Commons and transcribe them on Wikisource
 as agreed on this RFC
 https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/Musical_score_transcription_project_proposal

My point is to share such transcribes between projects.

Eugene.

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Sharing mathematical and music notations across wikis

2014-03-21 Thread Eugene Zelenko
Hi, Gerard!

On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 5:48 AM, Gerard Meijssen
gerard.meijs...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hoi
 I do not understand what you expect of Wikidata...
 Thanks
GerardM

Wikidata allows to refer to media file. In this case: TeX of music score.

Eugene.

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[Wikitech-l] Sharing mathematical and music notations across wikis

2014-03-20 Thread Eugene Zelenko
Hi!

I think will be good idea to introduce support for files in TeX and
ABC/Lilypond (Score extension) formats, so such files could be hosted
on Commons.

This will simplify maintenance of formulas and music across projects
as well as allow to refer to mathematical and music notations from
Wikidata.

Eugene.

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[Wikitech-l] Unification of inter-project links with Extension:RelatedSites

2014-01-27 Thread Eugene Zelenko
Hi!

As of now Extension:RelatedSites is used on Wikivoyage only, but I
think will be good idea to use this extension for inter-project links
unification across other WMF projects.

Currently different templates present these links in different
fashion. This introduces interface inconsistency as well as require
maintaining and usage of set of templates on various projects.

Extension:RelatedSites need some care:

* it should allow project names localization;
* it should be able to extract links from Wikidata.

Tools | Data item should be displayed by this extension for
consistency with other projects.

Eugene,

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Re: [Wikitech-l] 3d Online Geometry Viewer

2014-01-13 Thread Eugene Zelenko
Hi!

On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 10:47 AM, Inderpreet Singh indrp...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Sat, Jan 11, 2014 at 5:28 AM, Brian Wolff bawo...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 Thanks for writing. Previous discussions aboit 3d have usually been about
 x3d and cml, but i think most people just want a 3d format supported, and
 dont care which one (to speak from a wikimedia as opposed to a mediawiki
 prespective).

 Currently we have a support for .g (BRL-CAD's binary file format)
 files, but BRL-CAD has a long list of supported formats so anything
 that BRL-CAD can import will be supported. BRL-CAD can export files as
 X3D but it cannot import them yet :( . The file formats that BRL-CAD
 can import are ASCII, AutoCad DXF, Elysium Neutral Facetted, EUCLID,
 FASTGEN, IGES, Jack, NASTRAN,  STL, TANKILL, Unigraphics and Viewpoint
 which can then be internally converted to .g file and exported to .obj
 for 3D online geometry viewer.

I think will be good idea to investigate, if there open 3D formats, i.
e. non-proprietary and not covered by patents.

Eugene.

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Re: [Wikitech-l] ARM servers

2014-01-13 Thread Eugene Zelenko
Hi!

I think will be good idea to try to get access to real hardware.

For example, Boston (http://www.boston.co.uk) produces Calxeda-based
servers and well as HP has experimental Calxeda and X-Gene based
cartridges for Moonshot servers (http://www.hp.com/moonshot).

Both provide remote access to own servers for trials.

Eugene.

On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 4:40 PM, Tim Starling tstarl...@wikimedia.org wrote:
 On 14/01/14 10:55, George Herbert wrote:
 On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 3:33 PM, Tim Starling tstarl...@wikimedia.orgwrote:

 In fact, it would slow down individual requests by a factor of 7,
 judging by the benchmarks of Calxeda and Xeon CPUs at

 http://www.eembc.org/coremark/index.php

 So instead of a 10s parse time, you would have 70s. Obviously that's
 not tolerable.


 Question - is that 10s linear CPU core time for a parse, or 10s of average
 response time given our workloads?

 Just an arbitrary number chosen to be within the range of CPU times
 for slower articles. On average, it is much faster than that.

 For actual data, you could look at:

 http://tstarling.com/stuff/featured-parse-boxplot.png

 If it is the linear one-core parse processing time, how much of that is
 dependencies on DB lookups and the like, externalities within the
 infrastructure rather than the straight-line CPU time needed for the parse
 itself?

 WikitextContent::getParserOutput() profiles at around 1.25s real and
 1.17s CPU.

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Re: [Wikitech-l] ARM servers

2014-01-12 Thread Eugene Zelenko
Hi!

ARM servers is definitely worth to look at, but please be aware that
technology is not mainstream and sad things may happens:
http://calxeda.com (one of exhibitors of ARM TechCon).

OS support if not mature yet, especially for ARMv8 (64 bit).

Eugene.

On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 1:05 AM, James Salsman jsals...@gmail.com wrote:
 Nicolas Charbonnier's Latest ARM Server solutions booths tour may be
 of some interest for those of you interested in low power server
 hardware:

 http://armdevices.net/2013/12/30/latest-arm-server-solutions-booths-tour/

 Mitac isn't represented there, but he did an interview of them a year
 and a half ago:

 http://armdevices.net/2012/06/07/mitac-gfx-arm-server/

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[Wikitech-l] Localizing site names displayed RelatedSites extension

2013-10-29 Thread Eugene Zelenko
Hi!

How site names displayed by RelatedSites extension could be localized?
For example, such links are heavily used in Wikivoyage, but only
section header in toolbox is localized and English project names are
used for links.

Eugene.

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[Wikitech-l] Redirects from Commons to wikimediafoundation

2013-10-22 Thread Eugene Zelenko
Hi!

I experienced weird problem today when accessing Commons (addresses
like https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Watchlist and
http://commopns.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Yuri_Gagarin): I was
redirected to same pages on http://wikimediafoundation.org.

Eugene.

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Support for 3D content

2013-04-19 Thread Eugene Zelenko
Hi!

Extension and viewer for Chemical Markup Language were created long
time ago. However it's still not reviewed for security issues to be
included on WMF projects. See
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16491.

On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 6:03 AM, Mathieu Stumpf
psychosl...@culture-libre.org wrote:
 Hi,

 Reading the 2012-13 Plan, I see that multimedia is one the key activities
 for Mediawiki. So I was wondering if there was already any plan to integrate
 3D model viewers, which would be for example very interesting for anatomy
 articles, or simply 3D maths objects.

Eugene.

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[Wikitech-l] Problems with file deletion on Commons

2013-04-15 Thread Eugene Zelenko
Hi!

I'd like to bring to attention of developers and system administrators
problems with file deletion on Commons:

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Administrators%27_noticeboard#Daily_DR_issue

Sorry, if it's known issue, but it persist for several days and
definitely affects administrators job.

Eugene.

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Missing project ideas for GSOC

2013-03-20 Thread Eugene Zelenko
Hi!

I think will be good idea to direct some of Google Summer of Code
participants energy to help Wikidata which misses many must-be
features. Some of them like support for projects other then Wikipedia
is postponed to next years, but something tells me that it may be
clone of existing functionality in most cases except one-to-multiple
links in Wikisource :-)

Eugene.

On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 4:43 PM, Quim Gil q...@wikimedia.org wrote:
 It's time to start defining what we want our Google Summer of Code to be all
 about. Let's look at the ideas we are proposing to potential students:

 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Mentorship_programs/Possible_projects

 Many of the ideas listed there are too generic (Write an extension),
 improvements of existing features (Improve Extension:CSS) or
 work-in-progress tasks (Fix Parsoid bugs). Many others are not directly
 related with development, and therefore not suitable either for GSOC.

 After this filtering, we seem to be left with:

 * Article evolution playback tool idea
 * An easy way to share wiki content on social media services
 * Write an extension to support XML Sitemaps without using command line
 * Extension:OEmbedProvider
 * Add support for x3d 3D files to MediaWiki
 * Allow smoother and easier Wikimedia Commons pictures discovery
 * Build an interwiki notifications framework and implement it for
 InstantCommons
 * Automatic category redirects

 (If you think your project should also be considered here please speak up!)

 Most of these projects seem to be extension (and PHP?) centric. Can we have
 more diversity? Maybe gadgets and templates are too simple for a GSOC
 project? What about the mobile front? Do we have skin development projects
 that could make it here? Anything in the DevOps area? Anything the MediaWiki
 core maintainers would like to see happening?

 It would be also nice to have more candidates benefiting specific Wikimedia
 projects. Beyond Wikipedia, we have several proposals related to Commons.
 Wikidata seems to be joining soon. What else? Could this be a chance to help
 Wiktionary, Wikibooks or any other project with specific needs craving for
 tech attention?

 Also to the many students that have already showed their interest: feel free
 pushing your project ideas now!

 --
 Quim Gil
 Technical Contributor Coordinator @ Wikimedia Foundation
 http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Qgil

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Periodic updates from bits.wikimedia.org

2012-08-10 Thread Eugene Zelenko
Hi, Tim!

Thank you for suggestion!

I installed LiveHTTPHeaders and sent two captures to Krinkle. Probably
will need to do more of them.

Eugene.

On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 9:13 PM, Tim Starling tstarl...@wikimedia.org wrote:
 There's an extension called LiveHTTPHeaders which allows the relevant
 request information to be captured and saved to a file.

 http://livehttpheaders.mozdev.org/

 Open it from the tools menu, then do the things that are slow while
 it's opened, then click save all and save it to a file. Don't post
 the file publically, since it will contain your login cookies, but you
 can send it to Krinkle as an email attachment, if he wants it.

 -- Tim Starling

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[Wikitech-l] Periodic updates from bits.wikimedia.org

2012-08-09 Thread Eugene Zelenko
Hi!

I noticed that content from  bits.wikimedia.org (including WikiEditor)
is updated quite regularly - ~ every 20 minutes on Commons.

Such behavior is definitely creates problem for users with slow
connections or with payed data traffic.

Are JavaScript/CCS are really updated so often?

Eugene.

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Periodic updates from bits.wikimedia.org

2012-08-09 Thread Eugene Zelenko
Hi, Krinkle!

I'm very sorry for beginner question, but how could get such log in
Firefox 14? Is some extension available which could dump all pages
with timestamps downloaded to view particular page? Or may be Firefox
could do this itself?

Eugene.

On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 7:59 AM, Krinkle krinklem...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Aug 9, 2012, at 4:49 PM, Eugene Zelenko wrote:

 Hi!

 I noticed that content from  bits.wikimedia.org (including WikiEditor)
 is updated quite regularly - ~ every 20 minutes on Commons.

 Such behavior is definitely creates problem for users with slow
 connections or with payed data traffic.

 Are JavaScript/CCS are really updated so often?

 Eugene.


 Can you elaborate a bit? (urls, timestamps, http headers, ..)

 -- Krinkle

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Re: [Wikitech-l] New preferences system

2009-04-24 Thread Eugene Zelenko
Hi!

On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 8:59 PM, Andrew Garrett agarr...@wikimedia.org wrote:
 The advantage of this clear separation is that writing an API module
 is very simple, and it can be called internally, too!

I think will be good idea to use API internally (not only have
possibility to call), as result code will have more testing and
coverage.

Eugene.

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Re: [Wikitech-l] You too can clean out the tons of database Default Messages

2009-03-24 Thread Eugene Zelenko
Hi!

I asked similar question week ago. Can anybody from Wikimedia stuff
answer this question?

Eugene.

PS

We have new sysadmin there. May be it's good task to start?

On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 4:34 AM, Andrew Garrett and...@epstone.net wrote:
 On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 10:02 PM,  jida...@jidanni.org wrote:
 I don't know why the design decision was made to just leave those
 Mediawiki: namespace items sitting in the archive and text tables. But

 Just run update.php. It does all that crap for you.

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[Wikitech-l] Google Summer of Code 2009

2009-02-11 Thread Eugene Zelenko
Hi!

I noticed that various free and open source software project started
preparations for Google Summer of Code 2009, so I created
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Summer_of_Code_2009.

Eugene.

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Some Ideas About Technical Stuff/Community Relations Improvements

2008-12-11 Thread Eugene Zelenko
Hi!

On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 1:49 PM, Brion Vibber br...@wikimedia.org wrote:
 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
 Hash: SHA1

 2) Why new translations are not propagated to project X

 Translations are propagated to all our sites along with all other
 software updates.

It known, but don't explain cause of problem :-) Something stops or
will stop deployment of new versions. So will be good idea to notify
outside world a priori. At least TranslateWiki maintainers will be
able to answer such questions :-)

 I think will be good idea to introduce some kind of technical stuff
 reporting and future planning (may be located on WMF site). It'll
 provide approximate answer for question 1; explain clearly situation
 with 2 (like rXYZ introduced database scheme changes, currently
 updating WMF servers). This will also highlight and communicate
 priorities to general public.

 This is pretty much what I try to do (not always as successfully as I
 plan ;) on my blog:

 http://leuksman.com/log/

 of which wiki-related posts are replicated on the Planet Wikimedia
 aggregator:

 http://en.planet.wikimedia.org/

I don't think that blog is right place for such announcement.
Especially Planet where technical issues will be mixed with
non-technical ones. I think something more predictable and permanent
like WMF wiki will do job better.

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Eugene.

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Bring your language to Commons

2008-12-08 Thread Eugene Zelenko
Hi!

On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 9:55 AM, Brion Vibber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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 Eugene Zelenko wrote:
 How about demanding from foundation to allocate some part of latest
 usability improvement grant/resources
 (http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Press_releases/Wikipedia_to_become_more_user-friendly_for_new_volunteer_writers)
 to solve at some of Commons problems?

 We probably won't get to much Commons-specific stuff in there, but we'll
 see what sub-projects come up.

Will be good idea to find old e-mail to wikitech-l from Brianna
Laugher with Commons requirements since most of the requests still not
implemented :-(

For example, unsupported categories translation already used for
Commons bad publicity on Russian Wikipedia.

 As for user language: see comments in similar request about user's
 gender (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13040), which
 also affect quality of MediaWiki localizations.

 Will social gender (often, but not always aligned with biological sex)
 always track with grammatical gender?

I hope so :-)

 What are the cascading implications of user gender on localization
 (adjective agreement in Romance languages, verb agreement in Semitic
 languages) and what technical requirements would be imposed?

Messages should be similar to GRAMMAR (for example GENDER). So
sentences such as User uploaded could be more correctly translated
as Участник загрузил/Участница загрузила on Russian or Удзельнік
загрузіў/Удзельніца загрузіла on Belarusian. Same thing for
Polish/Ukrainian and most likely for other Slavic languages.

Gender settings could be also used in Babel extension and user boxes
(currently uses parameters for this purpose).

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Bring your language to Commons

2008-12-06 Thread Eugene Zelenko
Hi!

How about demanding from foundation to allocate some part of latest
usability improvement grant/resources
(http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Press_releases/Wikipedia_to_become_more_user-friendly_for_new_volunteer_writers)
to solve at some of Commons problems?

As for user language: see comments in similar request about user's
gender (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13040), which
also affect quality of MediaWiki localizations.

Eugene.

On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 8:49 AM, Lars Aronsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 New user accounts on Wikimedia Commons automatically get a
 greeting from [[User:Wikimedia Commons Welcome]].  However, this
 greeting is in English and not all users speak English.  At the
 top of the message there is a list of links to translations in
 other languages, but I think there is a better way.

 Since most new user accounts on Commons (about two thirds) are
 created by SUL, and arrive through a link that specifies the
 uselang= parameter, wouldn't it be very easy to set the user
 preference for user interface language from the uselang parameter
 when the account is created by SUL?

 The greeting template (and other templates, such as deletion
 requests) could then access the user's interface language setting
 through a {{USELANG}} magic word, and present the corresponding
 translation.

 This way, new Swedish speaking users (who typically arrive from
 the Swedish Wikipedia, one that doesn't allow local uploads) could
 be guided to the Swedish language village pump and find a
 community there.


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Re: [Wikitech-l] Support for Chemical Markup Language

2008-11-28 Thread Eugene Zelenko
Hi!

On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 9:37 AM, Aryeh Gregor
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 11:13 AM, Eugene Zelenko
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi!

 We are discussing on Commons list
 (http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/commons-l/2008-November/004338.html)
 possible support for Chemical Markup Language
 (http://cml.sourceforge.net) and Jmol viewer
 (http://jmol.sourceforge.net).

 Extension for MediaWiki is already implemented
 (http://wiki.jmol.org/index.php/MediaWiki). However it was done for
 1.12 and some security concerns exists. Will be great if somebody will
 review extension code and adapt it to current MediaWiki state if
 necessary.

 Is there a bug open?

Not yet. Is it precondition? :-)

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