Hi, Yuri!

I think will be reasonable to allow transclusion of graphs (or their
parts, for example without text labels) from Commons. This will allow
to share graphs between projects.

Eugene.

On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 5:51 AM, Yuri Astrakhan <[email protected]> wrote:
> Jon, <graph> is designed to support template parameter expansions, and I
> found most convenient to place each graph into a separate template page.
>
> David, re VE - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T93585
>
> On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 2:27 PM, David Gerard <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Is there a facility to use this in VE?
>>
>> On 6 May 2015 at 12:25, Jon Robson <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > I think this is great but I'm still super super concerned about the
>> support
>> > for "Embedded directly with <graph>". I'm concerned as if used this way
>> we
>> > risk making wikitext even more like code and more difficult for others to
>> > edit. Also having it inside the page makes it really difficult to
>> > extract/encourage remixing of the data...
>> >
>> > On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 4:32 AM, Brian Wolff <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> >> On 5/5/15, Yuri Astrakhan <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >> > Starting today, editors can use *<graph>* tag to include complex
>> graphs
>> >> and
>> >> > maps inside articles.
>> >> >
>> >> > *Demo:* https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Graph/Demo
>> >> > *Vega's demo:*
>> >> http://trifacta.github.io/vega/editor/?spec=scatter_matrix
>> >> > *Extension info:* https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Graph
>> >> > *Vega's docs:* https://github.com/trifacta/vega/wiki
>> >> > *Bug reports:* https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/ - project tag
>> #graph
>> >> >
>> >> > Graph tag support template parameter expansion. There is also a
>> Graphoid
>> >> > service to convert graphs into images. Currently, Graphoid is used in
>> >> case
>> >> > the browser does not support modern JavaScript, but I plan to use it
>> for
>> >> > all anonymous users - downloading large JS code needed to render
>> graphs
>> >> is
>> >> > significantly slower than showing an image.
>> >> >
>> >> > Potential future growth (developers needed!):
>> >> > * Documentation and better tutorials
>> >> > * Visualize as you type - show changes in graph while editing its code
>> >> > * Visual Editor's plugin
>> >> > * Animation <
>> https://github.com/trifacta/vega/wiki/Interaction-Scenarios
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Project history: Exactly one year ago, Dan Andreescu (milimetric) and
>> Jon
>> >> > Robson demoed Vega visualization grammar <
>> >> https://trifacta.github.io/vega/>
>> >> > usage in MediaWiki. The project stayed dormant for almost half a year,
>> >> > until Zero team decided it was a good solution to do on-wiki graphs.
>> The
>> >> > project was rewritten, and gained many new features, such as template
>> >> > parameters. Yet, doing graphs just for Zero portal seemed silly. Wider
>> >> > audience meant that we now had to support older browsers, thus
>> Graphoid
>> >> > service was born.
>> >> >
>> >> > This project could not have happened without the help from Dan
>> Andreescu,
>> >> > Brion Vibber, Timo Tijhof, Chris Steipp, Max Semenik,  Marko Obrovac,
>> >> > Alexandros Kosiaris, Jon Robson, Gabriel Wicke, and others who have
>> >> helped
>> >> > me develop,  test, instrument, and deploy Graph extension and Graphoid
>> >> > service. I also would like to thank the Vega team for making this
>> amazing
>> >> > library.
>> >> >
>> >> > --Yurik
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>> >>
>> >> Hmm cool.
>> >>
>> >> One of the interesting things, is you can use the API as a data
>> >> source. For example, here is a pie graph of how images on commons
>> >> needing categories are divided up
>> >>
>> >>
>> https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Commons:Sandbox&oldid=159978060
>> >> (One could even make that more general and have a template, which
>> >> given a cat name, would give a pie graph of how the subcategories are
>> >> divided in terms of number).
>> >>
>> >> --bawolff
>> >>
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