Re: [Wikitech-l] Video Uploads to Commons
Hi Magnus, On 02/04/2015 04:40 PM, Magnus Manske wrote: I wrote a PHP class to specifically deal with the Wikimedia OAuth, including uploads (not chunked though). May be helpful. https://bitbucket.org/magnusmanske/magnustools/src/9dc80c2479a41239b9661b35504dcaaaedf367f7/public_html/php/oauth.php?at=master very good! Because I have written a PHP library to use the MW library - it does not OAuth, because it is command-line based, but it can do chunked uploads! Maybe there is a way to add OAuth to it, then I will shamelessly steal from your code. My code is here: https://github.com/masterssystems/phpapibot I know that at least Dan used some it for inspiration for the video editing server upload component ;-) /Manuel -- Wikimedia CH - Verein zur Förderung Freien Wissens Lausanne, +41 (21) 34066-22 - www.wikimedia.ch ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Video Uploads to Commons
Hi, there is the tool by Holger which does that using WebM - but it is hosted on WMF Labs. It uses OAuth for unified login and moving the files to Commons. Then, a more elaborate tool for * storing raw material at the Internet Archive * generating patent free WebM proxy clips for editing * rendering high-quality videos * moving these rendered videos to Commons directly is the Video Editing Server, developed by some Wikipedians and a MLT developer, hosted by the Internet Archive: https://wikimedia.meltvideo.com/ It also uses OAuth for login and moving files to Commons. The workflow with this: # upload all your raw files to the server for ## long-term storage ## to make them available to other editors ## to let the server use them in the rendering process # the server transcodes all files into WebM proxy clips # editors download the WebM proxy clips ## do the editing on your computer ## create an MLT project file (eg. using kdenlive or another MLT-based video editor) # upload the project file ## server will replace proxy clips with raw material ## server will render video project ## server will move generated file to Commons It comes with a search engine, meta data forms... it's still pretty new (development started in December '14) but can be used. We plan to add some more features like tagging using Wikidata QIDs (hence allowing multilingual / localised tagging / searching, adding more project file formats and renderer, making old project file revisions available for download, give it a nice vector-based theme, give it a better domain name and SSL certificate... Play with it and have fun! For source code or any issues refer to GitHub: https://github.com/ddennedy/wikimedia-video-editing-server also there see the wiki for the specs and a deployment guide: https://github.com/ddennedy/wikimedia-video-editing-server/wiki /Manuel -- Wikimedia CH - Verein zur Förderung Freien Wissens Lausanne, +41 (21) 34066-22 - www.wikimedia.ch ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] maintenance.php files in symlinks context problem
Running several wiki farms with central code repositories I know this. The fix is to set the environment variable MW_INSTALL_PATH, eg.: /home/wiki-site/www/wikifoo $ MW_INSTALL_PATH=$(pwd) php maintenance/update.php --quick /Manuel Am 09.01.2015 18:22 schrieb Andre Klapper aklap...@wikimedia.org: Hi, On Thu, 2015-01-08 at 18:51 +0100, Jefsey wrote: I have loaded 1.23 in /wiki I have symlinked it in my /home/wiki-site/www directories. It works without problem. However, when I try That sounds like a problem with configuring MediaWiki and better suited for https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l Thanks, andre [Please do not reply to random messages to start a new topic. It breaks threading in email clients. Please start a new message instead. Thanks!] -- Andre Klapper | Wikimedia Bugwrangler http://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper/ ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] I'm leaving the Wikimedia Foundation
Thanks Sumana for sharing this with us and for all your work in the past years. I have to agree with many things said and it is always sad to see someone go. Everything ends at some point and every ending also bears a new start of something else. This applies to you as it does apply to us, the Wikimedia movemenet and Foundation. I wish you all the best for your future. Manuel Am 12.09.2014 18:09, schrieb Sumana Harihareswara: I write this email with regret to let you know that I've decided to leave the Wikimedia Foundation after nearly four years working here, and that my last day will be 30 September. -- Manuel Schneider - Chief Information Officer Wikimedia CH - Verein zur Förderung Freien Wissens Lausanne, +41 (21) 340 66 22 - www.wikimedia.ch ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] What does a hackathon cost?
Am 28.07.2014 18:36, schrieb Maarten Dammers: Different chapters are looking into organizing next years hackathon. One of the recurring questions is how much it costs to organize such an event. To make it easier to answer this question we published the budget of the Amsterdam hackathon at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Amsterdam_Hackathon_2013/Budget . I believe it's the intention to also publish the budget of this year (Zürich) and 2012 (Berlin). That should give quite a complete overview. I just did that: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Z%C3%BCrich_Hackathon_2014/Budget Please take the figures with a grain of salt. Not all WMF scholarship receipts have been handed in yet, so those numbers are not accurate. Also there have been some re-arrangements of costs between entities offering scholarship and what was a scholarship or a business travel. But the Youth Hostel bill (and that is the main part) has been settled already. There were obviously further costs not covered in this budget: Hotel accommodation not booked through us. I know that WMF and WMDE had a bunch of people in some hotels. These costs are NOT included. Also we do not know the reimbursed travel costs by other chapters - we just got the cost estimates in the scholarship applications and later invoiced the accommodation to them. A note for the Wifi: We had planned to get a sponsor for our own Wifi hardware we could re-use in other events. Our search for sponsors was unsuccessful - too late, as we learned, six months is for most companies NOT ENOUGH! Apply for sponsorships BEFORE SUMMER, at least in Switzerland. So I bought Wifi gear by myself (as a private person with a freelance business) and rented it to WMCH for 10 EUR / day per device and 25 EUR / day for the server. The switch I already owned was included for free. This obviously didn't make up for the investment (~2.500 EUR) and the equipment is meant to be re-used. I just bought a big box for it and shipped everything to London, for Wikimania. https://www.facebook.com/x80686/posts/321911134652244 If you need it, let me know. When the return of investment is reached I am also happy to rent it for free. /Manuel -- Wikimedia CH - Verein zur Förderung Freien Wissens Lausanne, +41 (21) 34066-22 - www.wikimedia.ch ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Call for Wikimedia Hackathon(s) 2014-2015
Am 25.07.2014 17:08, schrieb Quim Gil: On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 1:34 PM, Pep Adrian josepadr...@gmail.com wrote: detailed budget of previous hackathons? (Zurich Amsterdam) This will be very useful to prepare our proposal. Are they available online? They will, but booth Zürich and Amsterdam are still polishing numbers / format / protocol. In the meantime, feel free contacting directly Maarten Dammers (NL) and Manuel Schneider (CH). Nicole Ebber is a good contact for the events hosted in Berlin. I have sent my preliminary budget as a spreadsheet to everyone who has indicated to be interested (Fred - FR, Ilario - IT, Alex - AT). /Manuel -- Wikimedia CH - Verein zur Förderung Freien Wissens Lausanne, +41 (21) 34066-22 - www.wikimedia.ch ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
[Wikitech-l] Wikimedia Hackathon: Travel Information and Ticket sent
Dear all, sorry for cross-posting but I just have sent all participants of the Hackathon a PDF with travel information and a personalized public transport ticket. Should you plan to attend the Hackathon but have not received the Travel Information mail, then please contact me. Thanks and regards, Manuel -- Wikimedia CH - Verein zur Förderung Freien Wissens Lausanne, +41 (21) 34066-22 - www.wikimedia.ch ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
[Wikitech-l] Wikimedia Hackathon May 9th - 11th in Zürich - Upcoming Registration Deadline
Dear all, as you all know the next Wikimedia Hackathon takes place in Zürich, Switzerland. Registration is already open for a while and we already passed the deadlines for scholarships and visa assistance. Thanks to the WMF and several chapters we could assign 29 scholarships to participants and facilitate 10 visa applications. This Sunday we need to close the accommodation booking. So if you want to participate in the Wikimedia Hackathon and you want us to book a bed for you, please register NOW. Fill in this form to register: * https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1nlrQ7cox36xaNK1u9iKP-thogY5TVrilOGJR79DqQ9A/viewform We have 15 beds left until the Youth Hostel is fully booked, 144 participants have registered so far. If you do not need an accommodation provided by us you have more time. Still we would be in favor if you could register soon, so we can adjust the number of t-shirts, badges etc. Last minute registrations on site are possible but then don't expect us to have surplus swag left for you ;-) More information on the event, the location and the program can be found here: * https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Z%C3%BCrich_Hackathon_2014 Please also those who have already registered review the suggested sessions and workshops, add your support or your own submission, to help the program team to prepare some good sessions for you! See you soon in Zürich, Manuel -- Wikimedia CH - Verein zur Förderung Freien Wissens Lausanne, +41 (21) 34066-22 - www.wikimedia.ch ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
[Wikitech-l] MediaWiki, Cookies and EU Privacy Policy 95/46/EG
Dear all, not sure if this discussion already happens somewhere else, I couldn't find it on MediaWiki.org or by googling. The issue at hand is: EU privacy policy 95/46/EG[1] allows usage of cookies only if * the user has been informed beforehand in detail * the user has accepted the cookie * this acceptance was given freely, without doubt and through by action (This is the summary by the Article 29 Working Party issued in a Working Document 02/2013[2] on October 2nd, 2013.) An example how this is being implemented can be seen on sourceforge.org or here: * http://ec.europa.eu/justice/cookies/index_en.htm I checked MediaWiki: * anonymous users don't get a cookie, unless the site owner added something (eg. Google Analytics, Piwik or content served by another site using cookies) - this is fine * as soon as I click the Login button on the wiki, a cookie is being set - here we need to work, we need to ask first So I see two possibilities: 1) catch the click on the Login link to show a banner first to ask for the users consent, on acceptance forward the user to the login page 2) modify the login process to set the cookie after the actual login and put an additional text on the login page like by logging in I accept the usage of cookies by this website - as the login is an action which implies the consent, if we inform properly on the login form already Any thoughts about this? This issue also concerns all our Wikimedia websites, basically every MediaWiki out there where people may log into. The Austrian Communication Law (§ 96 Abs. 3 TKG) defines a penalty of 37.000 EUR. /Manuel [1] http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/LexUriServ.do?uri=CELEX:31995L0046:en:html [2] http://ec.europa.eu/justice/data-protection/article-29/documentation/opinion-recommendation/files/2013/wp208_en.pdf -- Wikimedia CH - Verein zur Förderung Freien Wissens Lausanne, +41 (21) 34066-22 - www.wikimedia.ch ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki, Cookies and EU Privacy Policy 95/46/EG
Am 10.03.2014 16:54, schrieb Chris Steipp: 1) catch the click on the Login link to show a banner first to ask for the users consent, on acceptance forward the user to the login page 2) modify the login process to set the cookie after the actual login and put an additional text on the login page like by logging in I accept the usage of cookies by this website The cookie on the login page is for the anti-csrf (and captcha if needed) validation, so getting rid of it would be problematic from a technical perspective (or would require a second click on the login page). Thanks Chris for this comment. So that leaves us with option 1) - a javascript banner. I think that shouldn't be too hard to implement. A div which hovers over the Wiki page, the text, two buttons [accept] / [leave]. Accept points to Special:Userlogin, leave just closes the banner. A javascript that shows this div onclick() on the Login link, if no cookie has already been set by the Wiki. Maybe even a LocalSettings.php variable $wgApproveCookies = true; that is true by default and allows admins of internal company wikis etc. to disable that banner. As an option we could even add another setting $wgApproveCookiesAlways, which makes the same div to show up as soon as a user enters the wiki. That way we can support admins that have further extensions installed in their wiki which add cookies right away - like Google Analytics. /Manuel -- Wikimedia CH - Verein zur Förderung Freien Wissens Lausanne, +41 (21) 34066-22 - www.wikimedia.ch ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
[Wikitech-l] Help: Upload without text revision - broken
Hi, I need help with an uploaded file on Commons which is broken: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Caspary,_Daniel_%28de%29.webm This file was - among many others - uploaded to Commons using the Commonist. Now as you see the wikitext is completely missing and there is no way to add it. The wikitext revision seems to be missing, rendering the database broken. * the history is empty * trying to edit the page results in an edit conflict which is not resolvable (trying to overwrite just triggers the next edit conflict) Can someone please have a look at the database and fix this issue? Thanks, Manuel -- Manuel Schneider - Chief Information Officer Wikimedia CH - Verein zur Förderung Freien Wissens Lausanne, +41 (21) 340 66 22 - www.wikimedia.ch ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Help: Upload without text revision - broken
Am 23.02.2014 11:09, schrieb This, that and the other: There are currently 96 pages on commonswiki with page_latest = 0 (i.e. they are missing a revision to display). Some go back to 2013 (oldest is [1]), but a spate of about 40 or so have appeared in the last few days. Very odd... I guess they all need to be fixed and the underlying issue checked out. thanks for looking into this issue. Two more notes: * there is a bug on this: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=32551 * the symptoms can be fixed by deleting the page, then it can be re-created. See: https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Caspary,_Daniel_%28de%29.webmaction=history Thanks to all who are looking into this and User:Steinsplitter who deleted all the affected pages today, Manuel -- Wikimedia CH - Verein zur Förderung Freien Wissens Lausanne, +41 (21) 34066-22 - www.wikimedia.ch ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] .wiki gTLD
Am 22.02.2014 10:37, schrieb Gryllida: That is a tough one, since most project names /start/ with wiki. pedia.wiki just sounds awkward, as do many others. right, let's get .pedia delegated to WMF. Also a way to make money ;-) SCNR. -- Manuel Schneider - Chief Information Officer Wikimedia CH - Verein zur Förderung Freien Wissens Lausanne, +41 (21) 340 66 22 - www.wikimedia.ch ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Non-Violent Communication
I'd even condense it further: If you are really pissed off by a mail, sleep over it before you reply. The more you are pissed off, the more let it settle for a while. This is even law in many places like in german, austrian or british armies: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milit%C3%A4rische_Nacht /Manuel -- Wikimedia CH - Verein zur Förderung Freien Wissens Lausanne, +41 (21) 34066-22 - www.wikimedia.ch ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
[Wikitech-l] Registration Open: Wikimedia Hackathon 2014 in Zürich
Dear all, as announced earlier we will have a Hackathon in Zürich May 9th to 11th. Now our registration is open - especially if you come from a country where you need a visa for the Schengen area or if you need a scholarship - register early! Registration Form: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1nlrQ7cox36xaNK1u9iKP-thogY5TVrilOGJR79DqQ9A/viewform Further information on the event can be found on MediaWiki.org: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Z%C3%BCrich_Hackathon_2014 Regards and see you in Zürich! /Manuel -- Wikimedia CH - Verein zur Förderung Freien Wissens Lausanne, +41 (21) 34066-22 - www.wikimedia.ch ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] The Zürich Hackathon and you
I read this list. Here I am ;-) -- Sent via mobile phone (+41 79 8646121 / +43 680 2437847 / +49 160 90803992) Željko Filipin zfili...@wikimedia.org schrieb: On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 12:22 PM, rupert THURNER rupert.thur...@gmail.comwrote: Now in cc I still do not see anybody in cc. Maybe wikitech removes cc header. Željko ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikimedia Commons Video Uploads waiting (Bug #58155)
Great, thanks a lot! Please ignore the subfolder. /Manuel Am 12.12.2013 10:43, schrieb Antoine Musso: I have started a process to download the files from http://lan.80686.net/ It is running on tin.eqiad.wmnet in a screen. Files being written to /home/hashar/bug58155 Whenever that is complete, we can process with the actual import. -- Manuel Schneider - Chief Information Officer Wikimedia CH - Verein zur Förderung Freien Wissens Lausanne, +41 (21) 340 66 22 - www.wikimedia.ch ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikimedia Commons Video Uploads waiting (Bug #58155)
Thanks a lot to Hashar and those who helped! I am very happy, I just added the videos to the program page of the conference and will send a mail to our community in a minute. They will be very happy as well! https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiCon_2013/Programm Regards, /Manuel Am 12.12.2013 18:36, schrieb Antoine Musso: All files have been uploaded now! Please contact me if there is any issue :-) Thanks to Ariel Glenn and Nemo bis for the useful commands. -- Manuel Schneider - Chief Information Officer Wikimedia CH - Verein zur Förderung Freien Wissens Lausanne, +41 (21) 340 66 22 - www.wikimedia.ch ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
[Wikitech-l] Wikimedia Commons Video Uploads waiting (Bug #58155)
Hi, I have a bunch of videos from our last conference waiting for an upload to Commons. For this I have filed a bug several days ago: * https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=58155 Can someone please take care of this in a timely manner? The conference is now three weeks ago and soon nobody will be interested in the videos anymore if we don't provide them near enough to the event. Thank you, Manuel -- Manuel Schneider - Chief Information Officer Wikimedia CH - Verein zur Förderung Freien Wissens Lausanne, +41 (21) 340 66 22 - www.wikimedia.ch ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
[Wikitech-l] Hackathon 2014 - Save the Date! May 9th - 11th 2014
Dear all, just a short note from Wikimedia CH that we are currently preparing the 2014 Hackathon in Zürich. Contracts are about to be signed and we want to let you know that you can count on us to create you an unique experience in Switzerland. Date: May 9th - 11th Location: Youth Hostel Zürich A preliminary page can be found on MediaWiki.org More to come soon! Feel free to contact us in case of questions! Charles and Manuel -- Manuel Schneider - Chief Information Officer Wikimedia CH - Verein zur Förderung Freien Wissens Lausanne, +41 (21) 340 66 22 - www.wikimedia.ch ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
[Wikitech-l] Happy Sysadmin Appreciation Day!
my congratulations and all the best! /Manuel -- Wikimedia CH - Verein zur Förderung Freien Wissens Lausanne, +41 (21) 34066-22 - www.wikimedia.ch ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Fwd: Advice Needed
Hi Rahul, Am 09.04.2013 14:52, schrieb Rahul Maliakkal: I am actually in big dilemma,my GSOC project implements audio recording by HTML5 using a method getuserMedia().Right Now no browser perfectly supports it so audio recording itself is an issue. as far as I know at least audio works on the newest Firefox version (20) released just a few days ago. http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/20.0/releasenotes/ https://mozillaignite.org/resources/labs/future-uses-of-webrtc-video/ I have read articles about this and its the NEXT BIG FIX for many browsers .The extension will take atleast 6-7 months to get deployed and by that time there is avery good chance that browsers become compatible . The Advantage is that as soon as the Web Recording will be compatible on all browsers our community will have Pronunciation Recording Tool ready by then. So what should i do?Do i continue working on it as my Gsoc Project? As long as you got one browser that works (and be it just an early alpha or beta version) you can develop the extension itself and test it with that browser. There might be neccessary adoptions once other browsers become available to add support for them but at least the foundations in the extension are done by then. /Manuel -- Wikimedia CH - Verein zur Förderung Freien Wissens Lausanne, +41 (21) 34066-22 - www.wikimedia.ch ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] SSL certificate
I'd like to notify you that thanks to the generosity and cooperation if the previous owner, wikimania.org and wikimania.com are now owned by Wikimedia CH. The domain is currently set up in the same way as it was before but we have now the possibility tu use ssl.wikimania.org for the registrations and scholarship tools already hosted by Wikimedia CH. Regards, Manuel -- Wikimedia CH - Verein zur Förderung Freien Wissens Lausanne, +41 (21) 34066-22 - www.wikimedia.ch ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] SSL certificate
Am 22.01.2013 20:42, schrieb Leslie Carr: On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 11:28 AM, Manuel Schneider manuel.schnei...@wikimedia.ch wrote: I'd like to notify you that thanks to the generosity and cooperation if the previous owner, wikimania.org and wikimania.com are now owned by Wikimedia CH. The domain is currently set up in the same way as it was before but we have now the possibility tu use ssl.wikimania.org for the registrations and scholarship tools already hosted by Wikimedia CH. Are you interested in transferring the domain to the WMF which already has a SSL cluster and an established procedure for handling new ssl certificates? we can do so, when we have a proper concept how to bring this together with the tools hosted at WMCH server now. My original inquiry was to get ssl.wikimania.org from WMF which should point to the WMCH server. As the response was that we don't own that domain that was what I fixed first. /Manuel -- Wikimedia CH - Verein zur Förderung Freien Wissens Lausanne, +41 (21) 34066-22 - www.wikimedia.ch ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] SSL certificate
Am 22.01.2013 22:14, schrieb John Vandenberg: Were the domains not previously set to redirect to the latest wikimania wiki? They were. I hope that will be fixed quickly. That has been done beforehand already, so the transfer of the domains was transparent to the users. /Manuel -- Wikimedia CH - Verein zur Förderung Freien Wissens Lausanne, +41 (21) 34066-22 - www.wikimedia.ch ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] SSL certificate
Am 23.01.2013 02:12, schrieb Casey Brown: On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 4:14 PM, John Vandenberg jay...@gmail.com wrote: They were. I hope that will be fixed quickly. The easiest way to do that would be to redirect them to wikimania.wikimedia.org, which already redirects to the proper year through Wikimedia's redirects.conf. thanks for the hint - I have now changed the redirect target from wikimania2013.wikimedia.org to wikimania.wikimedia.org on both domains. I think it would make sense to point the domain itself directly to the WMF servers and have the Wikimania website running under wikimania.org directly, with a host ssl.wikimania.org pointing to the WMCH server and wikimania(.)*.wikimedia.org redirecting to wikimania.org. /Manuel -- Wikimedia CH - Verein zur Förderung Freien Wissens Lausanne, +41 (21) 34066-22 - www.wikimedia.ch ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] SSL certificate
Am 12.01.2013 13:07, schrieb Maarten Dammers: Op 8-1-2013 21:46, Manuel Schneider schreef: my suggestion was that we get a subdomain like ssl.wikimania.org pointing to 195.114.98.120 (server of WMCH where the Wikimania Tools are available hosted since 2010). Will you be able to handle the load? I remember some issues in September. the load will be much smaller than on WLM website. We also handled registration and scholarship applications in 2011 with no issues. Apart from that we are upgrading hardware anyway and I have done some optimizations on the servers as well. Until the end of 2012 I was just a volunteer with limited ressources, now things changed. /Manuel -- Wikimedia CH - Verein zur Förderung Freien Wissens Lausanne, +41 (21) 34066-22 - www.wikimedia.ch ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] SSL certificate
Hi, Am 08.01.2013 17:59, schrieb Calvin W.F. Siu: As discussion with Manuel tonight about the whole wikimania system, he addressed that getting our domain (registration.wikimedia.hk and scholarship.wikimedia.hk) to use in every year's wikimania system because wikimania team in every year need to buy the SSL certificate for the systems, this action can cost effectively for every wikimania team to reduce the cost to buy SSL certificate and avoid the error from browser. Of course, we can claim the cost of buying certificate from WMCH/foundation. Is it possible to do that? my suggestion was that we get a subdomain like ssl.wikimania.org pointing to 195.114.98.120 (server of WMCH where the Wikimania Tools are available hosted since 2010). We could then implement the registration and scholarship portals on * https://ssl.wikimania.org/registration and * https://ssl.wikimania.org/scholarship We would need a certificate for ssl.wikimania.org, though, which needs to be issued by the WMF as they are the owner of wikimania.org. Otherwise we would be able to register a new domain for this purpose which is owned by WMCH, so we can do the same as above but buy the SSL certificates by ourselves. Someone from Wikitch-L who can help us with that? Thanks, Manuel -- Wikimedia CH - Verein zur Förderung Freien Wissens Lausanne, +41 (21) 34066-22 - www.wikimedia.ch ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Video codecs and mobile
Good morning, after reading all mails in this thread I'd like to comment on this. I care about this topic as I am leading the WikiTV project we started in Germany (http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiTV#WikiTV_.28on_demand.29). I would appreciate to see WebM out soon, I think that is important. So here I agree with Michael - get the TMH released and then add H.264 support later. What is unclear to me: Do you mean to store all video data in an intermediate format (be it Ogg or WebM or whatever) and then do a realtime encoding based on the browsers preference and capabilities? From a usability point of view this would be perfect. I wouldn't be happy if I needed to upload WikiTV shows in three different formats in the future and I think it would also wasting a lot of disk space. Let alone that these files need a developer to actually get imported into Commons from a FTP server we have to host on our end because we can't upload more than 100 MB, which are 80% of our files. /Manuel -- Regards Manuel Schneider Wikimedia CH - Verein zur Förderung Freien Wissens Wikimedia CH - Association for the advancement of free knowledge www.wikimedia.ch ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Video codecs and mobile
Hej Lars, On 03/20/2012 03:03 PM, Lars Aronsson wrote: Now, if we were to take this path, how do we flood Wikipedia with videos? Live interviews in all biographies of living people? If this turns out to be completely unrealistic, because we can't produce videos in sufficient quantity, then maybe the time is not yet mature for video in Wikipedia. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiTV http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiTV http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:WikiTV_%28DE%29 http://wikimania2012.wikimedia.org/wiki/Submissions/WikiTV ;-) /Manuel -- Regards Manuel Schneider Wikimedia CH - Verein zur Förderung Freien Wissens Wikimedia CH - Association for the advancement of free knowledge www.wikimedia.ch ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Please Welcome Christian Aistleitner to Technical Operations
Bonan tagon, this time I may also chime in the hello thread. Someone from Austria, great! Is Christian already familiar with his favourite chapter, Wikimedia Österreich? I'd be happy to hear more from him... /Manuel -- Regards Manuel Schneider Wikimedia CH - Verein zur Förderung Freien Wissens Wikimedia CH - Association for the advancement of free knowledge www.wikimedia.ch ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] [openZIM dev-l] [Offline-l] openZim export now part of collections extension
Hi Tomasz, On 10.03.2011 22:36, Tomasz Finc wrote: On Mar 10, 2011, at 10:53 AM, Samuel Klein wrote: On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 5:16 AM, Manuel Schneider manuel.schnei...@wikimedia.ch wrote: It is really surprising that this all happened quietly in the background ;-) I am not surprised, but this does make my day :) We've actually been posting about this quite actively in http://techblog.wikimedia.org/2011/02/february-wmf-engineering-update/ http://techblog.wikimedia.org/2011/01/update-on-offline-wikimedia-projects/ http://techblog.wikimedia.org/2011/01/wmf-engineering-update/ http://techblog.wikimedia.org/2010/12/december-2010-wmf-engineering-update/ and on mailing lists https://intern.openzim.org/pipermail/dev-l/2011-January/000549.html and we engaged with multiple community members to help us test the extension in its early form. If there was some other form of communication that was missed then please let me know and I'll make sure to include it for further projects. I didn't meant that I am missing a form of communication. Actually I missed the techblog, but that's a different story. We were well aware of the idea that WMF and Pediapress wanted to work to make ZIM in Collection extension happen. I expected that there will be a lot of technical questions during the implementation phase which will show up on dev-l, and that didn't happen - what is a good sign. So we knew that there was an idea and WMF and PediaPress wanted to work on it and it looks like the project wasn't ready yet - and suddenly, it's done, it's here, it works... that's amazing. /Manuel -- Regards Manuel Schneider Wikimedia CH - Verein zur Förderung Freien Wissens Wikimedia CH - Association for the advancement of free knowledge www.wikimedia.ch ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] [openZIM dev-l] openZim export now part of collections extension
CCing Wikimedia CH as the main sponsor of openZIM... On 09.03.2011 06:50, Tomasz Finc wrote: Today we enabled openZim (http://openzim.org/Main_Page) export to the existing PediaPress collections extension on English Wikipedia and numerous others. In addition to PDF and ODF, you will now see a new export option when browsing the Download section of the Manage Book interface. You can then easily take these files and use them with the Kiwix offline reader (http://kiwix.org/index.php/Main_Page). thanks a lot for that awesome work and support! It is really surprising that this all happened quietly in the background ;-) I am really happy to see this. /Manuel -- Regards Manuel Schneider Wikimedia CH - Verein zur Förderung Freien Wissens Wikimedia CH - Association for the advancement of free knowledge www.wikimedia.ch ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Offline wiki tools
Hi Andrew, maybe you'd like to check out ZIM: This is an standardized file format for compressed HTML dumps, focused on Wikimedia content at the moment. There is some C++ code around to read and write ZIM files and there are several projects using that, eg. the WP1.0 project, the Israeli and Kenyan Wikipedia Offline initiatives and more. Also the Wikimedia Foundation is currently in progress to adopt the format to provide ZIM files from Wikimedia wikis in the future. http://openzim.org/ /Manuel Am 15.12.2010 16:21, schrieb Andrew Dunbar: I've long been interested in offline tools that make use of WikiMedia information, particularly the English Wiktionary. I've recently come across a tool which can provide random access to a bzip2 archive without decompressing it and I would like to make use of it in my tools but I can't get it to compile and/or function with any free Windows compiler I have access to. It works fine on the *nix boxes I have tried but my personal machine is a Windows XP netbook. The tool is seek-bzip2 by James Taylor and is available here: http://bitbucket.org/james_taylor/seek-bzip2 * The free Borland compiler won't compile it due to missing (Unix?) header files * lcc compiles it but it always fails with error unexpected EOF * mingw compiles it if the -m64 option is removed from the Makefile but it then has the same behaviour as the lcc build. My C experience is now quite stale and my 64-bit programming experience negligible. (I'm also interested in hearing from other people working on offline tools for dump files, wikitext parsing, or Wiktionary) Andrew Dunbar (hippietrail) ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l -- Regards Manuel Schneider Wikimedia CH - Verein zur Förderung Freien Wissens Wikimedia CH - Association for the advancement of free knowledge www.wikimedia.ch ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] [openZIM dev-l] [STRASBOURG, 16/17 September] Next developer Meeting
Dear all, Emmanuel has organised our 3rd openZIM Developers Meeting in Strasbourg: We will meet on October 15th in the evening at: Hotel PAX 24-36 rue du Faubourg National 6700 Strasbourg, Alsace OpenStreetMap: http://www.openstreetmap.org/export/embed.html?bbox=7.73142,48.58123,7.7396,48.58679layer=mapnikmarker=48.58244,7.73660 The Hotel provides us with accommodation, breakfast, coffee breaks, meeting room, video projector, flipchart and lunch until Sunday evening. Dinner for Friday and Saturday will be organised spontaneously on-site. Costs for all this is covered with our openZIM budget sponsored by Wikimedia CH, only travel costs cannot be covered. Please register on the wiki if not yet as Emmanuel has already booked the rooms of those who already registered, so he knows soon how many additional rooms need to be booked. http://openzim.org/Developer_Meetings/2010-2 Please also have a look at the agenda and add whatever you miss. See you soon in Strasbourg! Manuel -- Regards Manuel Schneider Wikimedia CH - Verein zur Förderung Freien Wissens Wikimedia CH - Association for the advancement of free knowledge www.wikimedia.ch ___ dev-l mailing list de...@openzim.org https://intern.openzim.org/mailman/listinfo/dev-l ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] User-Agent:
Am 18.02.2010 07:37, schrieb Dmitriy Sintsov: I hope that reader will be available for different platforms, including the mobile ones (mobile internet here in developing countries is not so cheap comparing to ADSL). Kiwix runs on Windows and Linux, the zimreader (which is just a command line tool and provides a webserver to serve ZIM contents) runs on any Un*x system. openZIM provides libzim which can be used in arbitrary software to easily integrate the ZIM file format. Eg. Vido is using libzim to provide Wikipedia contents on the Ben NanoNote (a 8 MB flash handheld device). openMoko has made a reader using libzim as well. There is no application for Symbian, iPhone or similar available yet, but we would like to see something like that. Developers with knowledge about these systems are needed, though... /Manuel -- Regards Manuel Schneider Wikimedia CH - Verein zur Förderung Freien Wissens Wikimedia CH - Association for the advancement of free knowledge www.wikimedia.ch ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] User-Agent:
Am 18.02.2010 09:00, schrieb Pascal Martin: There is also : http://www.okawix.com/ thanks Pascal, just after sending my mail I realised that I forgot to mention Okawix. Is the ZIM integration already done? That would be awesome! /Manuel -- Regards Manuel Schneider Wikimedia CH - Verein zur Förderung Freien Wissens Wikimedia CH - Association for the advancement of free knowledge www.wikimedia.ch ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] User-Agent:
Hi Jamie, Am 17.02.2010 11:41, schrieb Jamie Morken: am sure that the intentions are good for what they are doing, people just want to protect wikipedia (including me). I am most interested in learning about how to make a local searchable backup of the full wikipedia, it seems a bit tricky with the xml format. I plan on making a install of apache/lucene/mysql/php/mediawiki and see how it works! :) have you ever looked into openZIM? The ZIM file format offers a highly compressed storage which includes a fulltext search index. Currently there are Kiwix as a GUI reader application and the zimreader as a webserver available, along with special readers for embedded devices etc. The Wikimedia Foundation is working on providing regular ZIM dumps of their wikis along with the SQL and XML dumps. /Manuel -- Regards Manuel Schneider Wikimedia CH - Verein zur Förderung Freien Wissens Wikimedia CH - Association for the advancement of free knowledge www.wikimedia.ch ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Any news to update static HTML Wikipedia?
Hoi Gerard, it is indeed a huge improvement that finally the source code was made available. This has not yet came to my sight. So GPL violation does not count here. Anyway, it took a long time to actually become free. When we were trying to work with Linterweb it took us months to get some patches of the code they took from us, and the patches were actually not usable. Concerning proprietary format: Zeno was kind of proprietary, but at least it existed some documentation and DirectMedia was willing to answer questions. ZIM is completely open and freely documented, so if you don't like our implementation or you think that C++ is not the language of your choice - feel free and go ahead with your own implementation. As long as you follow the standard! Of course the file format is not fixed until good right now, so if you have suggestions you could name them on the openZIM mailinglist or file a bug at the openZIM website. What Linterweb did was just changing random thing without documentation and very bad communication towards the openZIM project team. So I do consider it as proprietary - as it is incompatible with both ZIM and Zeno and there is no willingnes to collaborate to fix this issue. Both Tommi (the openZIM main developer who has also delivered his Zeno-related code to Linterweb) and Emmanuel (from whom they took Kiwix to make it Okawix) have a long story to tell about this. As well as I have, because I am being addressed regularly by Linterweb as they still try to get code and support, but never really get into the project by telling us what they really want and how we could integrate that into openZIM. We had a Wikipedia Offline meeting in Buenos Aires and someone named Linterweb. Surprisingly for me they are also quite wellknown to the foundation and more surprisingly they have quite similar views as we have. I would love to see them using ZIM in Okawix, even if it would require some changes if they feel we had to make it more usable for them (even though I see currently no reason why it was not perfectly usable right now). Of course we invited Linterweb to our first developers meeting and two people from them actually registered (one of them was Pascal Martin, the CEO) so we book rooms for them from our project's budget, but they never showed up. A side story though, but it is an excellent example how collaboration with Linterweb is going on. Regards, Manuel -- Regards Manuel Schneider Wikimedia CH - Verein zur Förderung Freien Wissens Wikimedia CH - Association for the advancement of free knowledge www.wikimedia.ch ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Any news to update static HTML Wikipedia?
Hi Chengbin, hi list, static.wikimedia.org is currently not being updated and while the dumps processing has been assigned to and completely rewritten by Tomasz Finc (developer at WMF), there has not been made any assignment concerning HTML dumps. We had a Wikipedia Offline meeting at Wikimania last week and discussed several issues. One issue is the fact, that WMF wants to see the ZIM file format being used for offline dumps and has suggested to include it into the regular dumping process. So one question was: When will that happen, what is the status of WMF ZIM dumping? As ZIM uses HTML extracts Tomasz clarified that once static.wikimedia.org has been rebuild to be stable and sutainable, integrating ZIM would be trivial. But he also informed us that this task has not yet been assigned. As Brion Vibber and Erik Möller have been at the meeting as well we hope that this assignment will be made soon and this task has got higher priority. This said I may also advise you not to you use the pure HTML dumps but the ZIM files for your Archos, because that's what they are meant for. A ZIM file containing all german Wikipedia articles (900,000) is 1,4 GB, an additional full text search index takes another 1 GB. Greets, Manuel Am Mittwoch, 2. September 2009 schrieb Chengbin Zheng: I bring this old issue up because I want to know if (or if not) progress (or plans) are made to update the static HTML version of Wikipedia. BH photos just leaked the next generation of Archos portable media players. Unbelievably, the rumors of a 500GB version is true! This is already tempting (especially the price at $420). Just waiting for specs on September 15, the Archos event. I really hope it will support NTFS so I can use the compression feature. It would be really cool and convenient to have an offline copy of Wikipedia anywhere I go without the need of Wi-Fi. What am I gonna do with 500GB? BTW, does anyone know what is the size of the current static HTML English Wikipedia version uncompressed? Thanks. ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l -- Regards Manuel Schneider Wikimedia CH - Verein zur Förderung Freien Wissens Wikimedia CH - Association for the advancement of free knowledge www.wikimedia.ch ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Any news to update static HTML Wikipedia?
Hi Chengbin, ZIM is an upcoming standard for using HTML contents offline. It is derived from the Zeno file format used on the german Wikipedia DVDs since 2006 (ZIM = Zeno IMproved). There are currently several reader applications for it, for instance the zimreader made by the openZIM project or Kiwix. There are some ports around like Kiwix on Windows and zimreader on openmoko / ARM. The zimreader by openZIM works like a small webserver, it serves the contents of the ZIM file locally. Once the HTML dump on static.wikimedia.org is fixed and ZIM file creation has been integrated you will be able to download fresh ZIM files of all Wikimedia projects directly from download.wikimedia.org. Currently the Kiwix team has created some ZIM files and we try to build a ZIM file directory: http://openzim.org/ZIM_File_Archive ZIM actually stores the article text portion of the HTML output of the Wiki in a compressed cluster. It can hold also all type of other MIME types such as images, CSS files etc. http://openzim.org/ZIM_File_Format It is an open standard and has currently been developed and implemented by the openZIM team (sponsored by Wikimedia CH) in C++. There is a library (zimlib) which can be integrated in other reader or dumping applications to make them ZIM-aware. Using the open documentation ZIM can be implemented in any other language as well. The idea of ZIM is to make the data files freely interchangeable with any reader application. It is also flexible enough to store other works than only data from Wikipedia/MediaWiki. Then it tries to keep the reader application as simple and stupid as possible. There is only uncompression and HTML rendering to be done while a HTML renderer should be available on nearly all devices. Greets, Manuel Am Mittwoch, 2. September 2009 schrieb Chengbin Zheng: On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 8:13 AM, Manuel Schneider manuel.schnei...@wikimedia.ch wrote: Hi Chengbin, hi list, static.wikimedia.org is currently not being updated and while the dumps processing has been assigned to and completely rewritten by Tomasz Finc (developer at WMF), there has not been made any assignment concerning HTML dumps. We had a Wikipedia Offline meeting at Wikimania last week and discussed several issues. One issue is the fact, that WMF wants to see the ZIM file format being used for offline dumps and has suggested to include it into the regular dumping process. So one question was: When will that happen, what is the status of WMF ZIM dumping? As ZIM uses HTML extracts Tomasz clarified that once static.wikimedia.orghas been rebuild to be stable and sutainable, integrating ZIM would be trivial. But he also informed us that this task has not yet been assigned. As Brion Vibber and Erik Möller have been at the meeting as well we hope that this assignment will be made soon and this task has got higher priority. This said I may also advise you not to you use the pure HTML dumps but the ZIM files for your Archos, because that's what they are meant for. A ZIM file containing all german Wikipedia articles (900,000) is 1,4 GB, an additional full text search index takes another 1 GB. Greets, Manuel Am Mittwoch, 2. September 2009 schrieb Chengbin Zheng: I bring this old issue up because I want to know if (or if not) progress (or plans) are made to update the static HTML version of Wikipedia. BH photos just leaked the next generation of Archos portable media players. Unbelievably, the rumors of a 500GB version is true! This is already tempting (especially the price at $420). Just waiting for specs on September 15, the Archos event. I really hope it will support NTFS so I can use the compression feature. It would be really cool and convenient to have an offline copy of Wikipedia anywhere I go without the need of Wi-Fi. What am I gonna do with 500GB? BTW, does anyone know what is the size of the current static HTML English Wikipedia version uncompressed? Thanks. ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l -- Regards Manuel Schneider Wikimedia CH - Verein zur Förderung Freien Wissens Wikimedia CH - Association for the advancement of free knowledge www.wikimedia.ch ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l I'm not familiar with the file extension .zim. What is that? Some sort of compressed html format like .chm? Where can I get a .zim file? I need to get check if this format is compatible with my Archos's Opera browser. ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l -- Regards
Re: [Wikitech-l] Any news to update static HTML Wikipedia?
Am Mittwoch, 2. September 2009 schrieb Chengbin Zheng: Well, as I said, Archos devices are not computers. They're merely portable video players with an internet browser. That's why I seek the static HTML version of Wikipedia. I see. But maybe it is possible to install a reader or at least the zimreader as webserver, which can be used with the built-in browser. At least it won't take much ressources. Will there be easy extraction of zim to HTML? Extracting a dump is too difficult. Of course it is possible, that's exactly what the zimreader does when serving pages. But as the HTML dump working on Wikimedia clusters is a requirement for ZIM file creation you can just go with the HTML dump from there as well. Greets, Manuel -- Regards Manuel Schneider Wikimedia CH - Verein zur Förderung Freien Wissens Wikimedia CH - Association for the advancement of free knowledge www.wikimedia.ch ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Any news to update static HTML Wikipedia?
I want to add that Okawix uses code from the pre-ZIM GPL'ed ZenoReader and ZenoWriter which has been developed by the openZIM team before we started ZIM, but they changed it to be incompatible with Zeno and ZIM. So Okawix can be regarded to be as proprietary as well as also a GPL violation. We have been contacted by Linterweb (the company behind Okawix) several times and we also invited them to the developers meeting, but actually they do not seem to be able for a collaboration with an open source community. The Wikimedia Foundation had a similar experience when trying to work with them. /Manuel Am Mittwoch, 2. September 2009 schrieb Gerard Meijssen: Hoi, For you information Okawix is localised at translatewiki.net. Thanks, GerardM http://translatewiki.net/wiki/Translating:Okawix 2009/9/2 Manuel Schneider manuel.schnei...@wikimedia.ch Hi Chengbin, hi list, static.wikimedia.org is currently not being updated and while the dumps processing has been assigned to and completely rewritten by Tomasz Finc (developer at WMF), there has not been made any assignment concerning HTML dumps. We had a Wikipedia Offline meeting at Wikimania last week and discussed several issues. One issue is the fact, that WMF wants to see the ZIM file format being used for offline dumps and has suggested to include it into the regular dumping process. So one question was: When will that happen, what is the status of WMF ZIM dumping? As ZIM uses HTML extracts Tomasz clarified that once static.wikimedia.orghas been rebuild to be stable and sutainable, integrating ZIM would be trivial. But he also informed us that this task has not yet been assigned. As Brion Vibber and Erik Möller have been at the meeting as well we hope that this assignment will be made soon and this task has got higher priority. This said I may also advise you not to you use the pure HTML dumps but the ZIM files for your Archos, because that's what they are meant for. A ZIM file containing all german Wikipedia articles (900,000) is 1,4 GB, an additional full text search index takes another 1 GB. Greets, Manuel Am Mittwoch, 2. September 2009 schrieb Chengbin Zheng: I bring this old issue up because I want to know if (or if not) progress (or plans) are made to update the static HTML version of Wikipedia. BH photos just leaked the next generation of Archos portable media players. Unbelievably, the rumors of a 500GB version is true! This is already tempting (especially the price at $420). Just waiting for specs on September 15, the Archos event. I really hope it will support NTFS so I can use the compression feature. It would be really cool and convenient to have an offline copy of Wikipedia anywhere I go without the need of Wi-Fi. What am I gonna do with 500GB? BTW, does anyone know what is the size of the current static HTML English Wikipedia version uncompressed? Thanks. ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l -- Regards Manuel Schneider Wikimedia CH - Verein zur Förderung Freien Wissens Wikimedia CH - Association for the advancement of free knowledge www.wikimedia.ch ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l -- Regards Manuel Schneider Wikimedia CH - Verein zur Förderung Freien Wissens Wikimedia CH - Association for the advancement of free knowledge www.wikimedia.ch ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] (sans objet)
Salut Ameth, vous n'avon pas traduire les manuels, ils sont disponible seulement en anglais. Mais tu peux trouver des page de l'aide pour Wikipedia et en modifier le wiki en francais dans la Wikipedia francaise: http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aide:Sommaire Cordialement, Manuel Am Dienstag, 1. September 2009 11:39:31 schrieb ameth bocoum: pouvez vous m'envoyer les documents en francais ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l -- Regards Manuel Schneider Wikimedia CH - Verein zur Förderung Freien Wissens Wikimedia CH - Association for the advancement of free knowledge www.wikimedia.ch ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
[Wikitech-l] Invitation to the 2nd openZIM Developers Meeting - register now!
Dear developers, publishers and users, we have fixed the time for our second developers meeting of the openZIM project, a meeting for all users, developers and publishers of software or works using the ZIM file format. == Time == It will take place over the weekend from November 20th to 22nd 2009. We will start on Friday evening and shutdown at Sunday afternoon. == Topics == === Technical topics: === * fixing fulltext search (should we stick with the current system? should we add different search engines?) * category handling * additional ZIM headers (a proposal for adding additional headers to the format to be able to store all HTML meta data has been made) * portability of libzim (efforts have been made to port libzim to Windows, Linux on ARM...) === Wikimedia related topics: === * requirements for Wikimedia ZIM creation * MediaWiki interfaces * other reader applications on different platforms === Communication === * future exhibitions * marketing == Location == The meeting will take place in south-western Germany, near Basel. The openZIM team tries to cover all costs for accommodation and catering during the meeting. To achieve this we have to know very early how many people will arrive, so we can choose the best location possible. We plan to book an appartment with Internet access and kitchen, so we can work and sleep at the same place and cater ourselves. == Details and Registration == Please register (and add your comments) at http://openzim.org/Developer_Meetings/2009-2 There you will find also details how to reach the place etc. REGISTRATION CLOSES AT SEPTEMBER 31st! Kind regards, Manuel -- Regards Manuel Schneider Wikimedia CH - Verein zur Förderung Freien Wissens Wikimedia CH - Association for the advancement of free knowledge www.wikimedia.ch ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] RegioWikiCamp - September 25-27, Germany
Hi Brianna and *, Am Montag, 31. August 2009 16:17:24 schrieb Brianna Laugher: It will be from September 25th to 27th. The event is located in Furtwangen the middle of the beautiful Black Forest in Germany. It is organised by the European Regiowiki Society, location host is the faculty of Digital Media of the Furtwangen University of Applied Science. While I will definitely not go there, this is not far from my place. If you need a hub to get there - feel free to contact me. Unfortunately Furtwangen is a very remote place right in the middle of the black forest. While nice during summer in winter they have got the highest suicidal rate at the university there as you're really stuck in a dark valley up there with not many possibilities to do something or to get somewhere. Ways to get there: By train from Switzerland, Germany, France via Basel (national stations for all three national railways) via ICE to Offenburg via RE to Triberg then bus to Furtwangen By aircraft fly to EuroAirport Basel/Freiburg/Mulhouse IATA BSL/MLH/EAP take the swiss exit via Bus line 50 to Basel SBB then via train as described above Alternatively there is also a small airport Baden Airport near Karlsruhe and Baden-Baden, but there is only a bus line to Baden-Baden (where you can also pick an RE to Triberg). -- Regards Manuel Schneider Wikimedia CH - Verein zur Förderung Freien Wissens Wikimedia CH - Association for the advancement of free knowledge www.wikimedia.ch ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Setting up a wikipedia mirror
Am Montag, 25. Mai 2009 12:18:32 schrieb Christian Reitwießner: Thanks for the hint! Perhaps I should explain a bit more. I have modified the DumpHTML extension and want to use it to create a compressend wikipedia dump for offline use. This dump will not contain images but it would be good if it at least contained the links to the images so that they can be displayed if there is a connection to the internet. I think using commons as external file repository would solve all these problems. If you want to have dumps of Wikipedia for offline usage you might want to subscribe to dev-l (at) openzim.org. The openZIM team has made several dumps and provides software to do so as well as reader applications. Wikimedia is currently working on the dumping process to provide ZIM files on a regular basis in the same process of making XML and SQL dumps. If you ask on the ML you can get the URLs to download several dumps which are already available, there is at least a full dump of german Wikipedia (1,3 GB) and selected articles from english, spanish and italian Wikipedia with images. Greets, Manuel -- Regards Manuel Schneider Wikimedia CH - Verein zur Förderung Freien Wissens Wikimedia CH - Association for the advancement of free knowledge www.wikimedia.ch ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] developer meet-up is out of room
well, as I already bought the ticket - though I didn't make sense to register after this news - I will be in Berlin anyway. I'm taking care for participants of the chapters meeting the week before (showing around in Germany) and will be in Berlin at Thursday afternoon. I know the locations and the city quite well, so if I may help somewhere I am happy to do so. -- Regards Manuel Schneider Wikimedia CH - Verein zur Förderung Freien Wissens Wikimedia CH - Association for the advancement of free knowledge www.wikimedia.ch ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
